wiggers

[Anarchist Freedom]

i know its mean but i just dont like wiggers as you may say there annoying there stupid and i hate them





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[Ian]

Oh for fucks sake, are you that fucking stupid? Making a thread like this is like making a thread entitled "I don't like gay rights activists".


How can you be so stupid?!

[Rastafari]

Surely there has to be a better term than w(hite-n)igger.
the quicker we can forget any useage of that word, the better

[apathy maybe]

I didn't even know what it meant before Rastafari posted. I now know what it stands for and still don't know what it means. Mind you I think this thread is pretty pointless.

[Marxist in Nebraska]

Originally posted by [email protected] 6 2003, 08:12 PM
Surely there has to be a better term than w(hite-n)igger.
the quicker we can forget any useage of that word, the better
I agree with that.

apathy,

The term means is a reference to a white who "acts black."

[Anarchist Freedom]

alright then hmmm white people who think there black but arent shortned to wpwttba ahahah like that! its proper i dont like they there annoying they act stupid think there rappers and ballers and think there black(no offense to black people) but i mean they are kinda ignorant im sorry if im offending but i need to vent due to the fact that there are soo many white people who think there blak but arent they say ghetto after every word and think there the fuckin beezfuckin neez and i haveing nothing wrong with gay guys or lesbians :rolleyes: but i mean you knw you dont like them

[commieboy]

you know what...there's nothing we can do about them but laugh...and socialistfreedom i've already told you that....

plus dont call them wiggers, thats still using the term nigger in some twisted ass way. i have found a good term for them, when i called someone Naive some kid with his pants off his ass and a FUBU t-shirt goes, "Lennox, what am i?" i just said, "YOu're culturly confused"

the hip hop epidemic will end soon and they'll find some new craze, so there's really not anything we can do....

PS...i'm really starting to hate the plaid pattern from all the boxershorts i see these days...its funny though watching these kids walk...one hand to carry their books and another to hold up their pants.

[commieboy]

one thing i forgot....yesterday one of these kids ran from the cops when they saw him smokin' a blunt...then when they cought him they found a loaded 9mm pistol...now he's going to federal fuck you up the ass jail....it's scary knowing these kids who think they're 50 cent are carrying guns...

[Anarchist Freedom]

commie boy your damn fuckin right! we should all laugh at them and stuff and i hate alot of rap except dead prez outkast some others and zach de la rochas solo shit !


ps which is off the hook


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ps why go boxer shoping just look at a white person who thinks he is a rappers ass and you will know what kind to get!!

[Hampton]

One race dosen't own a culture, if someone else who happens to be of another race wants to dress like that culture and adopt its characteristics and feels it expresses them best, they should be able to do so. I'll admit that some people take it way out of hand and it seems ridiclious at times, but, they're just trying to find their identity, people go through phases.

[commieboy]

That's exactly how i feel, it's cool to dress like a differnt culture...but when it gets out of hand...and dangerous...its got to stop.....and you know in a year when a new teen pop icon comes out they'll be dressin' in all of his clothing lines.

[Sasafrás]

Originally posted by [email protected] 6 2003, 08:17 PM
alright then hmmm white people who think there black but arent shortned to wpwttba ahahah like that! its proper i dont like they there annoying they act stupid think there rappers and ballers and think there black(no offense to black people) but i mean they are kinda ignorant im sorry if im offending but i need to vent due to the fact that there are soo many white people who think there blak but arent they say ghetto after every word and think there the fuckin beezfuckin neez and i haveing nothing wrong with gay guys or lesbians :rolleyes: but i mean you knw you dont like them
Um, you forgot . & , & '.

[(*]

Originally posted by [email protected] 6 2003, 09:17 PM
alright then hmmm white people who think there black
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think there rappers and ballers and think there black(no offense to black people)
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To say "people who think there black" is stereotyping black people.
I know you are not trying to be offensive.

[Sasafrás]

Originally posted by (*+Oct 6 2003, 10:03 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE ((* @ Oct 6 2003, 10:03 PM)
[email protected] 6 2003, 09:17 PM
alright then hmmm white people who think there black
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think there rappers and ballers and think there black(no offense to black people)
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To say "people who think there black" is stereotyping black people. [/b]
Exactly.

So, white people can&#39;t be "ballers" or "rappers"? I know quite a few white guys who make mad quantities of money and who know how to adequately run some serious game on the ladies. Does that mean that they think they&#39;re black? Bad example, but Vanilla Ice was a rapper. Eminem is a rapper. A know quite a few white girls who flow too and plenty white girls who can sing R&B music well. Does this mean that they&#39;re trying to be black? I think it&#39;s just a cultural thing. It&#39;s inner city. If you go to a place like NYC and go to the Bronx or Harlem or certain parts of Manhatten, you&#39;ll see countless "white" kids (Polish, Italian, Jewish, Romanian, Spanish, etc.) who have almost exclusively been exposed to hip-hop, basketball gear, Sean John, Ecko, Vokal, and other lines of clothing created by hip-hop artists. It&#39;s not about the white kids trying to be black, it&#39;s just the fact that their lifestyle has been greatly influenced by living in the inner city and in a diverse environment.

When I was in the 7th grade in middle school, I listened to Korn, Limp Bizkit, and Deftones, and I only listened to the rock/alternative radio station here in my city. I wore JNCO&#39;s. Did that mean that I was trying to be white? Now, I listen to Latin music, I like Latino guys, and I speak Spanish. Does this mean I&#39;m trying to be a Latina?

Just think about what you&#39;re saying and you&#39;ll realize that it really makes no sense.

[Red Flag]

&#39;Acting Black&#39; ?? WTF

I see alot of people that claim to be Leftists but Im seeing alot of down low racist and stereotypical shit in here.. I hope its not people claiming left just to wear a CCCP shirt to school :(

[commie kg]

Originally posted by Red [email protected] 6 2003, 08:24 PM
I see alot of people that claim to be Leftists but Im seeing alot of down low racist and stereotypical shit in here.. I hope its not people claiming left just to wear a CCCP shirt to school :(
Sadly, there&#39;s alot of that here.

[BuyOurEverything]

i just dont like wiggers as you may say there annoying there stupid and i hate them

Ya, those goddamned race traitors&#33; Why don&#39;t you go to stormfront, there&#39;s at least 100 threads complaining about "wiggers." I&#39;m sure you&#39;d feel right at home. Like Hampton said, one race doesn&#39;t own a culture.

[commieboy]

guys, dont all gang up on him...you know he isn&#39;t a racsist...he just really needs to use better wording on his posts...you know he didn&#39;t mean to offend anyone.

[RyeN]

I think the term being used to describe these guys is Thugs. Well at leats thats what goes around my area. But labeling someone because of the way they dress is prety lame to me.

I hate that shit, when people asume that because of the way you dress your trying to identify with another culture. I wear my hat all cranked to the side because it makes me feel like a good person. I dont need any other reason.

[Anarchist Freedom]

thugs is a good word you can say alright people listen im not rasict because i say something ok &#33; i may word it differently but its suddenly a reason to call me the fuckin supporter of the 3rd reich alright?&#33;

you see around me thes THugs Are Really dumb i mean dumb they act dumb think there cool and as commie boy said some kid was found with a 9mm and was hitting a blunt well they think it is cool to be a thug and shit but they really arent there just doing it too look kool you might say now i know im sounding steriotypical but seriously do you like thugs ?? quote un quote"yo dog what up homie&#33;? straight up wanna blaze a doobie with me no? ok fiin peace nigga later" yah i know i used a slang term but they called me a N****** now this may seem stupid and all but cmon have we not moved past that word &#33; im sorry about this being mean and all its just they surround me i need to vent on them really badly


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[Dhul Fiqar]

How do you feel about white or black people that know martial arts? Are they also not "acting their race" - because we all know only Asians do that shit, right??

Assigning specific characteristics to a race is just stereotyping, imho...


--- G.

[Unrelenting Steve]

Originally posted by [email protected] 7 2003, 09:36 AM
I think the term being used to describe these guys is Thugs. Well at leats thats what goes around my area. But labeling someone because of the way they dress is prety lame to me.

I hate that shit, when people asume that because of the way you dress your trying to identify with another culture. I wear my hat all cranked to the side because it makes me feel like a good person. I dont need any other reason.
When did you start doing that? Do you see yourself doing it in 10 years? Do you think a possible reason for it making you "feel good" is because it helps you "belong" as in at least on a superficial level you are made part of some group sharing in the group identity, or are buying into some model of what people in youir demographic are suposed to look like?

I have to do my english project on something, I was going to do it on communism, but think I have just found a topic&#33; this could tern into a whole new thread. Perhaps a questionaire, hmmm........

[commieboy]

I like the term Thugs...much better than wiggers

But i really dont like these people what ever race they are....They make themselves look like total assholes, when they incorperate the word "Izzle" at the end of every sentence and talk about wasting some homies over a bad sack of cronic....when in actualality they live in a subdivision and some kid sold them oregino instead of pot.

It&#39;s just stupid when your pants are around your knees and you think you&#39;re cool, i&#39;m just waiting for them to do somthing that requires two hads and their pants fall.

but there are some cool kids in my school who like at lunch do beatboxin&#39; and rap....they&#39;re really good and could make it into the record business someday...but have you really met an intelligent person who dresses and acts like that?

But the Hip Hop stars of today have some intelligence to make millions off of yelling *****es and hos to a beat.

[Anarchist Freedom]

dhul i dont care what they do its martial arts is a study of defending yourself it doesnt matter what they do, im gunna agree with commieboy on this



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[Hampton]

but have you really met an intelligent person who dresses and acts like that?

I&#39;ve been known to dress like that once and a while, but, I think that&#39;s just where I&#39;m from and the people I associate myself with do the same thing, it&#39;s just doing what I&#39;m comfortable with for the most part and I think a lot of people are like that.

The whole izzle thing is a farce, I don&#39;t know anyone who seriously uses that stuff in a conversation. And if they do, they should be punched in the face and Snoop should be kicked in the groin for making it popular. But at the same time I&#39;m sure there&#39;s slang on the other side of the spectrum that other people find annoying.

[Sasafrás]

I don&#39;t like "wiggers" or "thugs." By saying "thug," it&#39;s like you&#39;re automatically assuming that the people who dress this way engage in unlawful activities, which, in most cases, is not true.

[Red Flag]

There is alot of ignorance in this thread...

The Hip Hop culture has spread world wide, and parts of it are adopted by many people as they become exposed to it..

Alot of Anime is watched by many different people, but that came from Asia right? so anyone who is not asian should watch anime, or they&#39;re a Wink??? fuck out of here with this ignorant shit, go post this on a Rush Limbaugh forum.. I&#39;m sure his people will empathize with you..

[Sasafrás]

Originally posted by Red [email protected] 7 2003, 04:31 PM
anyone who is not asian should watch anime, or they&#39;re a Wink???
Wink = white Chink...

There would also be Blinks too. ;)

[Anarchist Freedom]

you guys just wont understand what it is like to live in michigan. you see there is something they do that just fuckin makes me go apeshit inside myself&#33; just leave this alone you guys just dont know.




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they didnt betray any race

[Sasafrás]

Originally posted by [email protected] 7 2003, 04:47 PM
you guys just wont understand what it is like to live in michigan. you see there is something they do that just fuckin makes me go apeshit inside myself&#33; just leave this alone you guys just dont know.
Well, you knew that nobody else is in Michigan, so why did you even post it? It was foolish...

What makes you think that you have to live in Michigan to be exposed to so-called "wiggers"? We understand what&#39;s going on.. You don&#39;t.

[Dhul Fiqar]

Eh, for the record, just about every person I went to school with in my youth was a "wigga" - so it isnot like I am not familiar with the type. Yeah, it can be annoying because they tend to use phrases like: "Keepin it real in da hood for ma dead homies&#33;" - when everyone knows they are rich kids with no dead friends and would be killed if they even walked through the hood.

That is called being an asshole - plain and simple. Most people - regardless of how they dress and what they listen to - are not assholes :)

--- G.

[Eastside Revolt]

I live in the land of "wiggas". I&#39;ve even know a few people right now, with truly black skin fron Kenya (To be honest only two or three families of them), whom you might as well have considered "wiggers". They have less to relate to hip-hop culture than I do. They live in richer and more suburban area of town, and are just plain filthy rich. And they used to go around refering to people like me as crackers, Untill alot of people started stomping a couple for it. <_<

[Anarchist Freedom]

dhul i agree with you and anyways they can BE assholes. quote un quote"you cracker ass biatches dont know what its like for a gangster like me" i reply dude you live in th burbs like me and you have rich parents



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[Dhul Fiqar]

Yeah, if they are acting like they belong to an oppressed minority when they clearly do not - that is pretty offensive to those economically marginalized people that have no chance at education and that actually have to watch their back every day in the ghetto to stay alive. At least in my oppinion - it is extremely inapropriate. :)

--- G.

[commieboy]

i know what socialistfreedom means about livin&#39; in michigan...8 MILE IS HERE&#33; it&#39;s instantly become the graceland for teenage girls who really get what eminem is saying....but now they connect with 50 cent..but hey, the prostitution profits on 8 mile have gone up ten percent&#33;&#33; :D

you guys are getting too damn touchy with all this ignorance stuff, this is what i think socialist freedom mean&#39;t "He doesn&#39;t like the PEOPLE who walk around in XXXXL clothes and think just because they&#39;ve seen 8 mile they&#39;re a baller and can freestyle. The ones who talk about a ghetto life and harships when they drive a cadilac"

Close?

[Dhul Fiqar]

Close - but I still don&#39;t think you guys understand fully how much of a step backwards it is to associate any of that with race... I think it is more a question of socio-economic realities than races. Eminem probably grew up as poor as most black rappers - while I understand Ice Cube among others were actually from fairly priviledged backgrounds.

--- G.

[Hampton]

You&#39;re right about the cubed one:

For such a revolutionary figure, Cube (born O&#39;Shea Jackson) came from a surprisingly straight background. Raised in South Central Los Angles, where both of his parents had jobs at UCLA, Cube didn&#39;t become involved with b-boy culture until his late teens. He began writing raps while in high school, including "Boyz-n-the Hood." With his partner Sir Jinx, Cube began rapping in a duo called CIA at parties hosted by Dr. Dre, and he eventually met Eazy-E, then leading a group called HBO, through Dre. Eazy asked Cube to write a rap, and he presented them with "Boyz-n-the Hood," which was rejected. Eazy decided to leave CIA, and he, Cube, and Dre formed the first incarnation of N.W.A. Cube left to study architectural drafting at Phoenix, AZ, in 1987, returning the following year after he obtained a one-year degree. He arrived just in time for N.W.A.&#39;s breakthrough album, Straight Outta Compton. Released late in 1988.

Drafting is gangsta, don&#39;t fuck with the T square.

http://www.livedaily.com/artist/bio/537.html

[Lardlad95]

1. There is no way to act "Black". By the stereotypical sense of the term I&#39;ve never acted black more than 30 minutes out of my entire life, yet racially I am black.

2. There is no way to act any race

3. Hip Hop is not an epidemic. There are of course bad rapers, but i&#39;m sure there are just as manyy shitty rock groups around. I would go on to talk about punk or metal, but I don&#39;t happen to know alot about them. And sicne most of the people on here who hate hip hop don&#39;t know anything about it I suggest you keep your mouths shut.

4. White people who are "Culture Vultures" are of no importance. So they want to act ina certain manner,let them, it&#39;s none of your buisness anyway. Is it any of their buisness how you act?

5. Who gives a fuck anyway? I mean I&#39;ve met Goths whom has pissed me off, but I&#39;ve got a few goth friends who I get along with. Don&#39;t write someone off just based on a surface apperance

[Socialmalfunction]

well i find it interesting, this thread. i know what socialist freedom means, i live in moreno valley and go to one of the better of the three high schools out here where alot of times black people i&#39;ve met have more money than the other races out here but still say they&#39;re "ghetto." i dont know... i know what its like to be poor and all but im not poor anymore and i&#39;ve never acted that way. although i do remember a time when being a gang member (not gangsta but gang member) was actually a fad, and not just to be able to watch your back either. things have changed though and i see both sides of the arguments here. i think people should just stop following the fads and be themselves (and if being "themselves" incorporates a fad than more power to them; but i mean the people that will ONLY like the "in" things or, in some cases, ONLY like the "underground" things. to me, thats annoying)

[Anarchist Freedom]

socialmalfunction and commie boy hit in right on the dot i mean roght were im trying to say



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[-JakeH-]

Originally posted by Socialist [email protected] 7 2003, 03:47 PM
you guys just wont understand what it is like to live in michigan. you see there is something they do that just fuckin makes me go apeshit inside myself&#33; just leave this alone you guys just dont know.




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they didnt betray any race
Betray any race. Damn. I don&#39;t know what your hang up is. Acceptance is key to tolerance, and the shit you are spouting is intolerant to say the least. Thugs, wiggers, what the fuck ever, they are just people and products of a society. I, personally like hangin out with these kids, as I do pretty much anyone. If you limit who you like to socialize with based on their "style" then you are pretty ignorant. I know many Thugs that are just chill people that were trained by society to act that way, don&#39;t be so damn judgemental. I live in Utah, the west-coast invasion hit here long before it hit you, and I&#39;ve probably known more "wiggers" than you have even seen. Open your mind, they are just people.

[[email protected]]

There is no real logical reason why anybody should hate wiggers.I agree with Rastafari to an extent,but the fact is most people behave in a very stereotypical manner and yes these "wiggers"make an attempt of behaving in the same manner as Black people. This however is no reason why anyone should hate them,I mean I live in South Africa and a large proportion of Black people behave in a very stereotypical Black American way and surely it would be unfounded for me to simply hat these people it is a highly irrational and illogical thing to state especially in public. Hey, but then again we&#39;re all allowed our opinions,but one ought to be real careful of attacking very broad and sensitive issues,because a lot of these "wiggers" are dealing with the heavy burden of "White guilt" and it&#39;s going to last for a while until the day,that White people realize that they are not to blame for all of the world&#39;s mishaps. Including slavery,because in actual facts most if not all African states were trading in slavery and the men slaves that Europeans got from Africa were actually prisoners,that the Africans didn&#39;t want anymore.Yes I&#39;m aware that women and children were captured,but believe it or not Africans also did that to each other,almost like a prisoner of war scenario&#33;&#33;

[Andrei Kuznetsov]

Personally, I think it&#39;s stupid that we should attack people simple for embracing the culture of African-American and urban proletarian youth. I mean, what the fuck is wrong with that? I have learned to embrace a lot of hip-hop culture and rap music now that I have opened my mind to it, and I am definitely not a "wigger" (which, as others have pointed out in this thread, stems from "nigger" and thus should not be used by revolutionaries)&#33; True, there are some that take it too far and often embrace the more negative aspects of the Hip-Hop subculture (the obsession with "pimpin&#39;" and "ho&#39;z and *****ez" and all that shit which is really demeaning and hurtful to women, the "gangsta" ideal of drugs and violence, belief that material wealth like big cars and bling-bling is the most important thing), but overall there is nothing wrong with the Hip-Hop subculture and there is nothing wrong with non-Blacks becoming part of the subculture.

*blasts Outkast from his computer* :D

[-JakeH-]

Originally posted by Andrei [email protected] 8 2003, 04:59 PM

*blasts Outkast from his computer* :D
Heh, Yea I&#39;ve been listenin to a hell of alot of rap/hip hop lately. I usually go for more punk or techno, but it&#39;s all good. Since having listened to alot of old Ice Cube it strikes me that he is(was) sort of a mouth piece of the poor working black youth. All that gangsta rappin he did was about equality and unfair distribution of wealth, kind of like a vocal urban-proletariat. That and of course pimpin ho&#39;s, but most of the time he sticks with cultural issues, heh.

[Andrei Kuznetsov]

I personally am really into Gothic Rock and Industrial, but I have taken to Hip-Hop more lately now that I am more active in radical activism and stuff. I dunno, working with the masses rubs off on yah I guess.

[Le Libérer]

Originally posted by [email protected]@Oct 8 2003, 10:26 PM
There is no real logical reason why anybody should hate wiggers.
You really have to look past how they are acting, and ask why? Here in the US there has been the decay of trhe family. Children have no pride in their culture. They have no guidance from a loving family. They connect with those they see that do. THe African- American and Spanish cultures historically are family based.
(Thats one of the reason I chose to raise my children within the Latino community)

I wouldnt hate anyone. If anything, try to feel what it would be like to be searching for love, acceptance, and respect.

[Dhul Fiqar]

That is a REALLY interesting point&#33; Man - I am gonna have to think about that and get back - fucking good insight I must say...

--- G.

[[email protected]]

Andrei has a really good point on the whole "wigger" issue,I mean if one ought to really think about it we all embrace some kind of sub-culture.Actually we are all our own sub-culture&#33; Yes the whole point of rapping and Hip-Hop was about expressing the views of the minorities/oppressed-depending on which country you&#39;re viewing-&#33; The point is I&#39;m a Black South African and I listen to a whole range of shit,all my friends are White and they&#39;re also into everything mainly old school Hip-Hop and Punk just like me. Sub-cultures do not have to be kept separate,they are merged by curmstances and it&#39;s irrelevant who listens to what or embraces what,because it doesn&#39;t belong to specific people.Everyone should just grow the fuck up and at least try to share their toys with everyone else.

[RED CHARO]

...

[Hampton]

nbhg:

[Dhul Fiqar]

That&#39;s hella cool, Hampton :)

--- G.

[Socialmalfunction]

Originally posted by Andrei [email protected] 9 2003, 06:59 AM
True, there are some that take it too far and often embrace the more negative aspects of the Hip-Hop subculture (the obsession with "pimpin&#39;" and "ho&#39;z and *****ez" and all that shit which is really demeaning and hurtful to women, the "gangsta" ideal of drugs and violence, belief that material wealth like big cars and bling-bling is the most important thing), but overall there is nothing wrong with the Hip-Hop subculture and there is nothing wrong with non-Blacks becoming part of the subculture.
i think this is the main point of this whole thread. not that liking a part of another person&#39;s culture is bad but that sometimes people take it too far. this can be with the violence part of it or with the losing touch with reality part (materialist things are most important and woman are nothing but hos and *****es). i dont think there was any offence meant to anyone when this thread was started. but that&#39;s just what i think.