Where are you Enver? The situation in Albania

[Impulse97]

http://www.revolutionarydemocracy.org/

Can't get a direct link, but if you scroll down to the bottom of the first image you should see 'Where are you Enver?'

Very good article on the situation in Albania as of 9/10. Is this the norm in the former bloc? How strong are the movements there?

[Nolan]

In Albania there isn't as much of the nostalgia that you see in other places. As far as I know the revolutionary left isn't too big.

[Impulse97]

Do you know anyone who could provide more info on the Bloc?

Also, do you know why it lacks the nostalgia of other states?

[Omsk]

Nostalgia (For the former states of course) is strong in Germany and all of the former Yugoslav republics,very strong.

[Impulse97]

Nostalgia (For the former states of course) is strong in Germany and all of the former Yugoslav republics,very strong.


To bad the former Yugoslav states are nostalgic for revsionism.....

Good to hear that its high in Germany, that may come in handy if we can ever build a movement there. I heard its pretty low in Poland due to that Govs. general fuckery.

[Omsk]

Well,you asked for general nostalgia for the former Bloc and other socialist states,so i gave you some info on the states i am familiar with.
Hungary is mixed,some people liked communism,but there is also a huge number of fascists.
In Croatia,Ustase (Croat fascists/nationalists) are also extremely popular,while in Serbia,monarchist/nationalists also seem to get more people to their side.

[Impulse97]

I'm not upset with you or anything, just a remark on the sad fact that is Titoism.

I've noticed that Fascism seems to be rampant in the Bloc. How in the world does one go from Socialism (revsionist as it was) to Fascism? That's like going from.... you know, I don't even think I can find an analogy to describe it...

Do you think that if the movements there focused on dispelling the misconceptions that people have due to the Blocs issues it could be effective in growing the movement?

[Omsk]

It could,and that is what is happening in Germany,people now see that the GDR was not just the Stasi land the west media wants it to look like.


I've noticed that Fascism seems to be rampant in the Bloc. How in the world does one go from Socialism (revsionist as it was) to Fascism? That's like going from.... you know, I don't even think I can find an analogy to describe it...

When socialism 'left' Europe,(the Bloc) with it also went the norms of civil life and an organized existence,moral and discipline.A civilised society.That is an example of what happened in Yugoslavia,or Germany (drugs,fascists,Nazis,criminal)

[Bright Banana Beard]

In Albania, there isn't much of nostalgic mainly because many of them are too young during the near end of Socialist Albania (which the economy are failing) and just many seniors are being nostalgic about life under Socialst Albania. It is important to note that majority of member in CPs in Albania are mostly seniors and they are working hard to get the youth into their ranks but suffered from attacks from the fascists and the governments, who are unsurprisingly working together and are being funded by US imperialism.

[Hebrew Hammer]

Do you know anyone who could provide more info on the Bloc?

I think like 49% of the population of Romania says they were better off under Communism.

Where is Hoxha? Idk, have you tried the Flora tobacco shop?

[Delenda Carthago]

seriously, I ve NEVER met an albanian that looks back on the socialist days.EVER. And I ve met more than 150 in my life...

[RedSunRising]

http://gci-icg.org/english/communism11.htm#albania

Good report on the 97 rebellion in Albania from a Left Com (but not ICC) stand point.

[Nolan]

In Albania they see the socialist era as one of isolation and dictatorship. The government is extremely anti-communist, and media and academia talk about the sigurimi and how Hoxha was supposedly a madman who hated the outside world.

In the 90s Albania was hit hard by the little nationalist renaissance that enveloped the Balkans, and it had an especially anti-communist flavor. But that didn't stop the communists from taking a leading role in 97.

Now it's worse because you've had an entire generation raised as good little liberal nationalists and the communists are seen as out of touch and anti-Albanian.

[Aspiring Humanist]

Where are you Enver?
Rotting in the ground where he belongs

[Nolan]

True, dead bodies generally should be in the ground.

[Impulse97]

Anyone else have any info or insight into the situation in E.E.?

[Rss]

In the 90s Albania was hit hard by the little nationalist renaissance that enveloped the Balkans, and it had an especially anti-communist flavor. But that didn't stop the communists from taking a leading role in 97.

Along with newly risen nationalism, blood feuds have had a renaissance in Albania. Blood feud was suppressed during Hoxha's time, but they failed to put a bullet in it's brain box. It was assimilated by administration in some respects (families punished for mistakes) and watered down in general populace.

[Old Mole]

Its quite obvious to me that the absence of "Ostalgia" in Albania is at least partially due to the fact that Albania was a relatively poor country during the time it was part of the East Bloc, the leading bureaucracys inability to cooperate with other bureaucracys in the East Bloc cannot have helped the country to growth, they maintained independence while also maintaining poverty. Of course it is still a very poor country, but now the isolation (independence) of the country is as least lost.

This is of course only theories, and nothing else.

[albania1978]

let the lights of capitalist world shine for a while and when they grow dim the people will be nostalgic again for the system that treated them as people and not slaves. The second round of real socialism will come in our lifetime, stronger and fixing all mistakes of the past.