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Die Neue Zeit
1st June 2011, 15:04
http://www.inclusivedemocracy.org/journal/newsletter/vol2_no4_socialfascism_PRINTABLE.htm


Once, in the founding years of the Second International, (social-democracy) was dedicated to the overthrow of capitalism. Then, it pursued partial reforms as gradual steps towards socialism. Finally, it settled for welfare and full employment within capitalism. If it now accepts a scaling down of one and giving up of the other, what kind of movement will it change into?

The answer to the above crucial question, raised about ten years ago by a distinguished member of the ex-“New Left”, has been given in practice by the policies of the social democratic parties that have been in power since then, and which —following in the footsteps of the British Labour party— everywhere, from Sweden to Germany, have been transformed into social-liberal parties. It seems, however, that their descent from social-democracy did not (and could not) end with social-liberalism. Today, the same Labour party pioneers a new route, this time towards social fascism. This development should not surprise anyone, given that the intensification of domestic and foreign economic suppression implied by neoliberal globalisation (of which the “new” Labour party is a fervent supporter)—has inevitably been leading to a corresponding political suppression, both in Britain and abroad.

Thus, on the pretext of the London bombings, this ex-socialdemocratic party has intensified its anti-terror campaign (although the Labour government had initiated a series of Draconian “anti-terror” measures long before the bombings), introducing several semi-fascist arrangements that would allow the arbitrary arrest and detention of any suspect for a period that could extend to three months —if the security services’ proposal is finally accepted, as seems likely at the moment.

http://indymedia.nl/nl/2010/03/66081.shtml


But, social-fascism today takes a very different form from the old image used by the Comintern to describe the social democratic parties in the 1930s. Social-fascism then was supposed to be a variant of fascism, in the sense that it stood in the way of the final transition to communism. Today, social-fascism takes the form of a mix of spurious social democracy and semi-totalitarian “democracy,” as the inevitable outcome of the adoption by the ex-social democratic parties of the necessary social-liberal policies to make them conform with the present neoliberal globalisation of open and liberated markets. This outcome was inevitable, because it was only through massive, preventive as well as repressive, systemic violence that the present reversal of the social democratic achievements, which were realised during the statist period (1945-mid of 1970s), could be consolidated. Thus, the disintegration of the welfare state, through the effective dismantlement of fundamental social services (free education, national health systems, comprehensive social security arrangements, etc.), with the ultimate aim to fully privatise them; the massive unemployment and underemployment following the massive cuts in public spending; the introduction of “flexible” labour relations; and more importantly, the enormous concentration of economic power in the hands of the privileged social strata that has led to the present monstrous levels of inequality in the distribution of income and wealth ―all these could not have been achieved without being effectively “shielded” from popular counter-violence, namely, the defence of the weaker social strata against the mass systemic (economic as well as physical) violence.

No wonder, therefore, that cameras have been installed everywhere in major cities like London, supposedly to protect citizens from crime; citizens are humiliated when travelling even to the extent of being forced to have an electronic striptease before being allowed to travel; demonstrators are violently suppressed when they dare to blame the transnational elite for the present multidimensional crisis (e.g. in London during the G20 meeting, then in Copenhagen during the climate conference, etc.); the right to strike is effectively suppressed through the banning of wildcat or sympathetic strikes, inevitably leading to the consolidation of the power of trade union bureaucrats (who are usually controlled by the elites); telephone and internet communication is closely monitored by “Big Brother” and so on.



I disagree with Fotopoulos's use of "Social Fascism." It's better to call it and the phenomenon inaccurately described by the Comintern "Social Corporatism." However, such descent into actual Social Fascism would be true if this tendency prevails in the Labour Party:

Don't underestimate toxic Blue Labour (http://www.revleft.com/vb/dont-underestimate-toxic-t155636/index.html)

RedSunRising
1st June 2011, 15:07
Ive given out too much rep out to rep you properly for this but thank you so much for posting. Social fascism is something Ive been thinking a lot about lately.

Vladimir Innit Lenin
1st June 2011, 16:29
Agreed, good point made.

Having said that, I can't see Blue Labour succeeding. Despite the relationship between class and Labour/Conservative voting preferences not being statistically significant anymore, there is still a strong tribalism in British politics. It is unlikely that the core vote of Labour or the Conservatives, whilst shrinking, would in the forseeable future vote for the other side.

I don't believe that the economically liberal, bureaucratic tendencies of New Labour have been eradicated at all, just as it's quite clear that the socially conservative Conservative Party has not, in its totality changed. What we are seeing at the moment, rather, is the emergence of a one nation 'red' Tory leader, and a Labour leader engrossed with this 'Blue Labour' philosophy of Glasman. To me, both leaders are generally weak and do not have the full support of their respective parties. The hegemony of the one nation Tory and the Blue Labourite inside their respective parties is, for me, a temporary phenomenon rather than a more institutional sea-change in the politics of this country.

Red Flag Rising
1st June 2011, 16:54
Looks like it's 1930 again.

graymouser
3rd June 2011, 11:40
Honestly, DNZ, sometimes I think you're trying to enforce Marx's dictum that things occur twice, once as tragedy, the second time as farce.

"Social fascism" is not a coherent or meaningful class analysis of forces. It is a political assault on the social democracy that the Stalinized Communist Parties made back in the Third Period, on the basis that the socialist revolutions were immanent and that social democracy was simply holding them back. So in this case, that's certainly not the role of Blue Labour.

Now, it's a definite shift to the right, and should be opposed on that ground. But to take up the name of "fascism" against it is the same as calling Republicans in the USA fascist - it cheapens the word so it cannot be properly used against the real thing. And to resurrect the dead dog of "social fascism" is to rehabilitate one of the Comintern's bloodiest mistakes.

Die Neue Zeit
3rd June 2011, 19:56
Honestly, DNZ, sometimes I think you're trying to enforce Marx's dictum that things occur twice, once as tragedy, the second time as farce.

Don't be ridiculous.


"Social fascism" is not a coherent or meaningful class analysis of forces.

Like what Mussolini thought of as Fascism (the exclusive form of Corporatism), "Social Fascism" wasn't fully developed at the time, yet Corporatism has a broad enough spectrum that ranges from Fascism on the far-right and Social Corporatism ("social democracy") on the left. It is characterized by many aspects, only some of which I'll mention here:

- Policy bias towards economic rentiers of all kinds (commercial and other landlordism, finance capital from vulture/"venture" capital to "bankers," media barons over the broadcast spectrum)
- Granting fictitious "persons" more "rights" than actual people (no, the original idea of limited liability behind the formation of corporations doesn't count)
- Political incorporation, ranging from post-WWII tripartite arrangements in Western Europe (government, businesses, and unions) to non-profit organization fetishes way beyond mere bourgeois philanthropy under neoliberalism


Now, it's a definite shift to the right, and should be opposed on that ground. But to take up the name of "fascism" against it is the same as calling Republicans in the USA fascist

No, Blue Labourism (along with the EDL) is to the UK what the Tea Partiers are in the US: a fascist or at least quasi-fascist tendency.


And to resurrect the dead dog of "social fascism" is to rehabilitate one of the Comintern's bloodiest mistakes.

As if your precious inter-war SPD with its "Democratic Front" fetish was oh-so-willing to work with a KPD deemed worse than the Nazis! :rolleyes:

The KPD was in a good position to split German nationalists by linking Anti-Imperialism with the politics of scrapping the Versailles Treaty.

graymouser
3rd June 2011, 20:25
Don't be ridiculous.
Unfortunately I'm not. You seem to find the worst stuff to dig up and resurrect.


It wasn't fully developed at the time, but Corporatism has a broad enough spectrum that ranges from Fascism on the far-right and Social Corporatism ("social democracy") on the left. It is characterized by many aspects, only some of which I'll mention here:

- Policy bias towards economic rentiers of all kinds (commercial and other landlordism, finance capital from vulture/"venture" capital to "bankers," media barons over the broadcast spectrum)
- Granting fictitious "persons" more "rights" than actual people (no, the original idea of limited liability behind the formation of corporations doesn't count)
- Political incorporation, ranging from post-WWII tripartite arrangements in Western Europe (government, businesses, and unions) to non-profit organization fetishes way beyond mere bourgeois philanthropy under neoliberalism
Fascism, at least according to Daniel Guerin's excellent Fascism and Big Business, actually has less to do with finance capital than with heavy industry. Guerin traced the autarky in both Italy and Germany after their respective fascist coups to benefit primarily heavy industry at the expense of both light industry and finance capital.

As for incorporation, again following Guerin, that was a minor aspect of how fascist societies worked. Corporatism was mostly to win over the nationalist worker and petit-bourgeois elements in a utopia of class collaborationism. And corporatism replaced traditional workers' organizations with representatives appointed by the state, rather than bringing them into collaboration.


No, Blue Labourism (along with the EDL) is to the UK what the Tea Partiers are in the US: a fascist or at least quasi-fascist tendency.
The Tea Party is not a fascist movement, although it has been a recruitment target for fascists. It is a right-populist pseudo-movement funded from above, which certainly has the potential to become fascist but currently is not. Honestly, claiming that it is fascist is to claim that the whole Republican Party is fascist, because the Tea Party has effectively been the mobilization of a wing of Republicans.

The face of actual fascism in the United States has been white nationalism, and the Tea Party has not gone all the way there yet. Again, it could, but today it is not actual fascism.


As if your precious inter-war SPD with its "Democratic Front" fetish was oh-so-willing to work with a KPD deemed worse than the Nazis! :rolleyes:

The KPD was in a good position to split German nationalists by linking Anti-Imperialism with the politics of scrapping the Versailles Treaty.
The KPD was not in much of a good position to do anything. But if it hadn't been engaged in the idiotic politics of social fascism, going so far in some districts as outright collaboration with the Nazis, it might have been.

Die Neue Zeit
3rd June 2011, 21:16
Fascism, at least according to Daniel Guerin's excellent Fascism and Big Business, actually has less to do with finance capital than with heavy industry. Guerin traced the autarky in both Italy and Germany after their respective fascist coups to benefit primarily heavy industry at the expense of both light industry and finance capital.

Fascist Italy didn't have much of an industrialization program. If it wanted heavy industry to benefit more, it would have nationalized the Italian banking system (so that the financial monopoly can afford lending at even lower interest rates to the industrialists). Nazi Germany limited its heavy industry to the military-industrial complex and token showcase infrastructure projects (Autobahn), and it too didn't nationalize the German banking system.


As for incorporation, again following Guerin, that was a minor aspect of how fascist societies worked. Corporatism was mostly to win over the nationalist worker and petit-bourgeois elements in a utopia of class collaborationism. And corporatism replaced traditional workers' organizations with representatives appointed by the state, rather than bringing them into collaboration.

On the contrary, it was a major aspect. Without Corporatism, the nationalisms of Fascist Italy and Nazi Germany would have been little different from run-of-the-mill nationalism, even with a militarist tinge.

As early as the 1840s, Marx observed the phenomenon of the "nationalist worker and petit-bourgeois elements in a utopia of class collaborationism," starting in "Liberte, Egalite, Fraternite" France. Do you know what it was called? Social-Democracy.

BTW, what about the traditional employer "lobby" organizations? Were these bourgeois and petit-bourgeois organs really elected separately, or were they filled with state representatives?


The Tea Party is not a fascist movement, although it has been a recruitment target for fascists. It is a right-populist pseudo-movement funded from above, which certainly has the potential to become fascist but currently is not. Honestly, claiming that it is fascist is to claim that the whole Republican Party is fascist, because the Tea Party has effectively been the mobilization of a wing of Republicans.

The reason I say this is because of their faux "Nativism." It's not any ordinary right-populist phenomenon like, say, the UKIP in the UK.


The KPD was not in much of a good position to do anything. But if it hadn't been engaged in the idiotic politics of social fascism, going so far in some districts as outright collaboration with the Nazis, it might have been.

Guess what? Any such collaboration, however imprecise re. winning over left-nationalists, was a result of the SPD's own "Democratic Front" antics. :glare: