Marx was a... satanist?

[SacRedMan]

...

[Nolan]

how did you not know. n00b.

[Koba1917]

Does context and meaning of quotes ever matter to idiots like this person? :confused:

[SacRedMan]

how did you not know. n00b.

Excuuuze me, princess :rolleyes:

[Rooster]

Believe it or not, it stems from the fact that Marx had a beard like "other satanists".


- Ralph Epperson: Secret Societies (audiotape 1987)

Karl Marx was a Satan worshipper...he joined a satanic cult that featured long unkempt beards. Every picture of Karl Marx depicts such.
From the book "Was Karl Marx a Satanist?"

http://www.amazon.com/Karl-Marx-Sata.../dp/0882640844 (http://www.anonym.to/?http://www.amazon.com/Karl-Marx-Satanist-Richard-Wurmbrand/dp/0882640844)

[SacRedMan]

So, I support a guy that was a satanist?

[HEAD ICE]

Proud Hon

[ZeroNowhere]

He was a Jew. He was not a Satanist. That is all that you need to know on this subject.

(Actually he was Satan)

[Koba1917]

Pretty much everyone had a long beard at the time :D

[SacRedMan]

He was a Jew.

But the father of Marx had more influence on Marx himself than his mother, that had jewish familly from Nijmegen. No, he wasn't a jew, his mother had just jewish roots and his father dept his nine childeren, according to the book "Marx in Brussels"

[Nolan]

He was an antisemitic Jew and satanist atheist. Makes perfect sense.

[Rooster]

Pretty much everyone had a long beard at the time :D

And they were all in league with Lucifer!

[SacRedMan]

He was an antisemitic Jew and satanist atheist. Makes perfect sense.

How that?

[Sinister Cultural Marxist]

You know who else was a Jew with an unkempt beard with revolutionary ideas who can talk to Satan?

http://www.abyssofmercy.com/images/jesus1.gif

Did that just blow your mind, or did that just blow your mind?

Clearly, there really is a secret cult of poor-worshipping satanic hairy semites!

[Rooster]

D:

[SacRedMan]

So all guys that have a beard, say once that religion is a drug, write theories and lettres about politics and philosophy are satanist jews?

[Nolan]

Excuuuze me, princess :rolleyes:

Yes, maam.

[SacRedMan]

I still don't have an awnser on my question, and I hope that he wasn't a (...) satanist, but was he really one?

[HEAD ICE]

I still don't have an awnser on my question, and I hope that he wasn't a (...) satanist, but was he really one?

No.

[SacRedMan]

No.

Ok, thanks.

But why do people say that? I mean, it isn't really treu that they have just sand in their head, is it?

[Nolan]

As a rule of thumb, when a right-winger says anything about Marx, it's probably bullshit. This generally goes for Lenin, Stalin, and especially Che. Che's haters are so obsessed with him they make this site look like nobody knows about Che. Practically every Cuban American has a man crush on him.

[HEAD ICE]

Ok, thanks.

But why do people say that? I mean, it isn't really treu that they have just sand in their head, is it?

Well the videos seem to only quote Marx's poetry when he was an angsty teenager. I wrote shit when I was 12 that would make me Satan in the flesh. Plus Marx said his poetry was shit and embarrassed about it like everyone who grows older and reflects on the things they wrote when they were younger.

In other words, yes the creators of the videos are dumb and don't know wtf they are talking about.

[Die Rote Fahne]

Marx went from Judaism to christianity to atheism.

[Spawn of Stalin]

But why do people say that? I mean, it isn't really treu that they have just sand in their head, is it?

The same reason people say anything about Communism or Communists.

My God, why on Earth would people actually lie about something that they do not understand or is against their interests?!?!?!

Marx wasn't a Satanist. Why? Because there is zero evidence to prove that he was.

[Hebrew Hammer]

A Satanic cult that featured long unkempt beards? Alright, lol, I have always read he was a Jew but was an Atheist and I've also never heard of this freemason, Christian poem, or any of this shit. Not to mention, lots of men back in Marx's time wore long beards and other such facial hair.

[Rafiq]

Most of those quotes about him saying "I am bound for hell" weren't actually literal. I don't care either way... But Marx was a materialist.

[The Vegan Marxist]

Any atheist/agnostic is a "satanist" to the religious-right.

[Luís Henrique]

So all guys that have a beard, say once that religion is a drug, write theories and lettres about politics and philosophy are satanist jews?
That's actually outdated.

Recent research shows that he was a Salafist Jewish Satanist.

... teenage "poetry" shouldn't be taken of evidence of anything.

Else what should we think about Francis of Assisi or Augustine?

Luís Henrique

[SacRedMan]

Recent research shows that he was a Salafist Jewish Satanist.

What tha... ?

[L.A.P.]

Brought to you by the geniuses on YouTube


Thanks for this video. In China, people say: "You will go to see Karl Marx after you die." This is the only truth the communist tell Chinese people....

[ImStalinist]

Marx was a Satanist becuase he believe in Darwinist Evil-lutionism. :laugh:

[Property Is Robbery]

So was he a free mason? Because they have to believe in a god to be a member

[Hebrew Hammer]

So was he a free mason? Because they have to believe in a god to be a member

I believe he was a Jew and all of this is anti-semitic.

Anti-dentites!

[Johnny Kerosene]

As a rule of thumb, when a right-winger says anything about Marx, it's probably bullshit. This generally goes for Lenin, Stalin, and especially Che. Che's haters are so obsessed with him they make this site look like nobody knows about Che. Practically every Cuban American has a man crush on him.

That depends a hell of a lot on whether or not they like Castro, which, many Cuban-Americans and Cubans do not.

[Triple A]

LOL, that video is stupid.
Marx as Obama was a muslim, comunist , nazi, fascist.

[bezdomni]

what is this I don't even...

[ModelHomeInvasion]

Any atheist/agnostic is a "satanist" to the religious-right.
I am totally okay with that, personally. Ain't nothing wrong with the occasional practice of black magic.

Now, where did I leave my Darkthrone and Mayhem records?

[A Revolutionary Tool]

You learn something new everyday. I just learned Marx wrote a screenplay. Awesome, lets do this.

[Ismail]

It's generally well known that every Communist is both a Jew and a Satanist. For instance, just a while ago I put on my robe and Mao cap. Then I killed a goyim and took his blood 'cause that's what we Communist Jews do.

But seriously, Marx wasn't a Satanist. "Satanism" doesn't actually exist to any significant extent. Marx wrote lame poetry when he was a young man, as did Stalin. It was Mao who advanced Marxism in this respect by writing lame poetry throughout his life.

[Hebrew Hammer]

It's generally well known that every Communist is both a Jew and a Satanist. For instance, just a while ago I put on my robe and Mao cap. Then I killed a goyim and took his blood 'cause that's what we Communist Jews do.

Ugh, we aren't this open about our practices when speaking among goyim. :confused:

What are you? Meshuganah? Also, not to nit pick ze joke but it's goy in the singular tense, goyim in the plural tense.

[Ismail]

I probably got that wrong because I'm actually not a Jew at all.

That's right, I uncovered your secret Satanic Jewish Marxist centre.

NOW I WILL PUBLISH ITS CONTENTS!

IT SHALL BE TITLED... THE PROTOCOLS OF THE LEARNED ELDERS OF ZION 2: ELECTRIC BOOGALOO.

[Hebrew Hammer]

That's right, I uncovered your secret Satanic Jewish Marxist centre.

We prefer to call it the Nudist Kibbutz.

Proletariat of the world unite! And take off your pants and dance a little.


NOW I WILL PUBLISH ITS CONTENTS!

IT SHALL BE TITLED... THE PROTOCOLS OF THE LEARNED ELDERS OF ZION 2: ELECTRIC BOOGALOO.

Psssssssssh, we've done a fairly good job at convincing the unwashed masses that it was actually racist Russians who wrote the first one, we are not phased by this, bring this. If ya scared go ta church unt we still davening in teh schulz!

[Klaatu]

Attempts to tie Marx to religion (and that includes satanism, which is a legitimate religion) is a waste of time and is simply frivolous.

Marx was smart enough to see above the religious FOG. Most (if not all) intelligent, educated people can easily see above and through the "religion fog" as I call it. And Karl Marx was certainly one of these intellectual visionaries.

Religion is one means for those in power to maintain the social order (usually through FEAR) and to maintain their grip on POWER.

[Rafiq]

Yeah, we know. :sleep:

[Lenina Rosenweg]

Any number of far right or Christian fundamentalist sites will "prove" that Marx, Lenin, Trotsky, other communists were a Illumanti Adepts, high ranking Freemasons, a Rosicrucians, Satanists, etc.Nothing whatsoever to back this up.

Marx's early poetry was influenced by German Romanticism and had more than a touch of mysticism and "Faustianism", a long tradition in German literature.

[RED DAVE]

Ok, thanks.

But why do people say that? I mean, it isn't really treu that they have just sand in their head, is it?People, especially reactionaries, say all kinds of shit and invent all kinds of conspiracies. Ignore them.

The world is not run by:

• satanists
• Jews
• Masons
• reptilian space aliens
• Bilderbergers
• that strange guy down the block who wears a long coat in the summer and only goes out at night.

The world is run by:

• the capitalist class.

RED DAVE

[Zav]

Believe it or not, it stems from the fact that Marx had a beard like "other satanists".

From the book "Was Karl Marx a Satanist?"

http://www.amazon.com/Karl-Marx-Sata.../dp/0882640844 (http://www.anonym.to/?http://www.amazon.com/Karl-Marx-Satanist-Richard-Wurmbrand/dp/0882640844)
Jesus supposedly had a long beard...

[bezdomni]

Can this thread die now?

[A Revolutionary Tool]

People, especially reactionaries, say all kinds of shit and invent all kinds of conspiracies. Ignore them.

The world is not run by:

• satanists
• Jews
• Masons
• reptilian space aliens
• Bilderbergers
• that strange guy down the block who wears a long coat in the summer and only goes out at night.

The world is run by:

• the capitalist class.

RED DAVE
I don't know, Donald Rumsfeld never answered whether he was a space lizard or not which makes me believe he is:
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[Hebrew Hammer]

Can this thread die now?

I don't know, you see, this thread has Jeezus in it, last time we tried burying that guy, he just came back three days later.

[Q]

Believe it or not, it stems from the fact that Marx had a beard like "other satanists".


- Ralph Epperson: Secret Societies (audiotape 1987)

Karl Marx was a Satan worshipper...he joined a satanic cult that featured long unkempt beards. Every picture of Karl Marx depicts such.

From the book "Was Karl Marx a Satanist?"

http://www.amazon.com/Karl-Marx-Sata.../dp/0882640844 (http://www.anonym.to/?http://www.amazon.com/Karl-Marx-Satanist-Richard-Wurmbrand/dp/0882640844)

If you play that tape backwards, you'll actually hear "communism rules, communism rules, communism rules".

True story.

[SacRedMan]

Can this thread die now?

I hope so. I'm even ashamed of myself for opening a thread about it :blushing:

[RED DAVE]

I hope so. I'm even ashamed of myself for opening a thread about it :blushing:You should be ashamed. And you need to make penance. Send a substantial contribution to RevLeft and you will be forgiven. :D

Otherwise, satanic, Jewish, alien Masonic lizards will get you!

RED DAVE

[Ismail]

I always thought LaRouche's claim that Marx was a dupe of the British agent Engels was the best conspiracy theory about Marx ever.

See: http://www.larouchepub.com/lar/2006/3335engels.html

LaRouche also claimed that Trotsky was a dupe of Parvus, who in his view was uh, also a British agent. And that Bukharin was a British agent. And that Hitler was a "runaway British agent." And that Obama is a British agent.

Basically LaRouche hates the British, so yeah.

[Franz Fanonipants]

he was a laveyan satanist bro sorry.

[chegitz guevara]

best RevLeft thread evar!


well, mabye not

[Pretty Flaco]

Karl Marx would be considered ethnically Jewish. His father converted to Christianity so he wouldn't lose his job, but odds are he didn't really believe.
Religiously, he was obviously against organized religion.

oh and i know this, cuz i'm a jewish conspiracy too.

[Luís Henrique]

What tha... ?

Salafist Zionism is the fastest growing branch of Satanist freemasonry.

Sarcasm, on the other hand, remains, as ever, a complete failure.

Luís Henrique

[Die Rote Fahne]

World is run by the stonecutters.

[bezdomni]

Die thread die!!

[German for "the thread, the!"]

http://parterre.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/die_bart_die.jpg

[Astarte]

Some also claim he was a Jew... And it's obvious all these guys come from America (not that I hate all Americans)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RQwKEoIQMA0&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mckb2RJLutg&feature=related

And I guess on Google you will find some things about it.

Have you an opinion on it? Can you say it's treu that he was a satanist? Or is this one of the biggest bullshit-theories ever made by man?

Embrace Marxism as an "Illuminate's conspiracy" - it will appeal.

[Tenka]

Marx's early poetry was influenced by German Romanticism and had more than a touch of mysticism and "Faustianism", a long tradition in German literature.

I want to read Marx's bad poetry. Know of any translations?

[∞]

Dumbass video you made us watch:

Marx wasn't the only one (Satanist), he surronded himself with like-minded people at the internationale...


http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-BZNYYBGOjg0/TcFxzOP7RLI/AAAAAAAAAII/7p3vLYoaI2A/s320/Are-you-fucking-kidding-me.jpg

[Ismail]

Great news everyone, in 2001 apparently Sun Myung Moon (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sun_Myung_Moon) was admitted as the second coming of Jesus Christ not only by Jesus himself, but in 2002 also by Marx, Lenin and Stalin (http://www.usasurvival.org/ck7502.shtml) (among others) in Heaven.


Karl Marx: I, Marx, affirm God’s existence and that He is the Parent of all humankind. I denied God and shouted loudly with confidence to the extent that people believed me more than God. Now I’d like to reveal my experience with God to the whole world. I felt that my theoretical paradigm was crumbling as I listened to the Godism lecture. At the same time my pride was damaged severely. When I listened to Godism, I thought it was a dream, but it was not. Then a beam of light came into my heart like a red-hot bullet. I, Marx, have met God. I have found that He is the Parent of humankind. I have felt the greatness of God’s love. I clearly convey to you who God is. He is the Parent of humankind. Reverend Sun Myung Moon, who is on the Earth, brought this fact to light. The Divine Principle and Unification Thought express the original standards that open the way to salvation, so you must read them. I ask this of you seriously. I clearly say that I apologize for my past to God and True Parents and love them and am proud of them. Marx, April 18, 2002

Lenin: God certainly exists. He exists as the Parent of humankind. In spite of that, I put myself on the vanguard of Communist revolution with a sword in my hands, shouting out that there are no parents. I made their hearts ache. I announce to Communists: God, Jehovah, certainly exists and He is the Parent of humankind. The Communist counties will perish without fail. The ideal of Communism will be realized by its being engrafted upon Unification Thought. I have an earnest request for you. There is only one way for Communist countries to live and that is to follow Reverend Moon’s guidance. Please study the Divine Principle in detail. Please receive the thought of Reverend Moon and study it deeply. If you do so, you will attend God more truly than the thinkers or politicians of the Free World. This is the only way to live truly. If you follow my words, it will release me from unimaginable suffering and agony. I beg this of you. Communist countries must re-arrange everything as soon as possible. I met God. The spirit doesn’t die, but lives. This is my last wish, given in blood from the world of Heaven. “God is alive. God is the Parent of humankind.” Lenin, April 19, 2002

Stalin: Friends in Communist countries, I am Stalin. You have had wrong thinking. As the way you are going is not the way you should go, you must turn to the right path as soon as possible. One’s life on the Earth determines the place one will live in the heavenly world. Our beliefs are wrong. The worst of it is that we deny and ignore God, who is the origin of the cosmos. The God we denied is the Parent of humankind. God is not a theological existence, but is our Parent. Those at whom we laughed live well in spirit world. It is certain that they didn’t go to Hell. When we laughed at them, they and God loved us. We live in the bottom of Hell here. Do you understand what it means? People here don’t treat each other as human beings, but as material. If there were any means to rid myself of this pain, I would do it. The place one dwells in the spirit world cannot be decided by power, honor or gold. It is decided by the sincerity of your life on the Earth. First, know and believe God and attend Him. Second, completely clarify your way of life.

Please receive the will of Reverend Moon completely, open your minds and build churches for the worship of God and hold worship services. Reverend Moon reflects the image of God, even though he is a man, and he is struggling intensely to save Communist countries. His thought is messianic, especially for the Communist countries. You must receive his ideology of peace immediately. I, the dictator who denied God, cry out to all the Communist countries on the Earth. Please believe in God and seek for Him. Stalin, April 19, 2002Clearly we can see Marx's true beliefs now that he has clarified them for us.

[Rjevan]

Everybody who dares to question the belief of the more hardline religious nutjobs is automatically a Satanist or possessed by Satan. Adhering to materialism and propagating rationality over blind faith? Just consider for a moment that Lucifer means light-bearer... should tell you something about the Age of Enlightenment. :sneaky:

Btw, this Marx myth was already brought up in this thread (http://www.revleft.com/vb/marx-myths-t69009/index2.html), starting with post 29. Doesn't get less ridiculous with time. The morale: don't write a few dark and mystical poem in your early 20s or you'll have to bear the wrath of God's reactionary servants well after your death.


I want to read Marx's bad poetry. Know of any translations?
http://homepages.which.net/~panic.brixtonpoetry/marxpoetry.pdf

Haven't watched the vid and haven't checked if they're included but the poems in question presumably are "The desperate's prayer", "Bandsman" (or "Gleeman"?) and "Oula­nem" which is - ZOMG - an anagram (a common Satanic practice, turing things upside down, spelling backwards, etc!!!) of Emanuel which means - ZOMG - "God with us" in Hebrew; so he's without God!!!11

[SacRedMan]

You guys still post?

[ZeroNowhere]

I want to read Marx's bad poetry. Know of any translations?You can find a fair bit of it here (http://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1837-pre/verse/index.htm). Sometimes the translation has a couple of issues, such as sacrificing the flow of poems in order to maintain the rhyme scheme, as well as being awkward at times, but the translations aren't awful as far as I can see. For example:


Creator Spirit uncreated
Sails on fleet waves far away;
Worlds heave, Lives are generated,
His Eye spans Eternity.
All inspiriting reigns his Countenance:
In its burning magic, Forms condense.

Voids pulsate and Ages roll,
Deep in prayer before his Face;
Spheres resound and Sea-Floods swell,
Golden Stars ride on apace;
Fatherhead in blessing gives the sign,
And the All is bathed in Light divine.

Here, there do seem to be a couple of issues when it comes to rhyme, mainly in the first stanza, but in this case they aren't too bad. Poems with simpler structures seem to have less problems in this area, though, such as the following:


In flowery groves I lost my way
Where forest spring showers silver spray
In murmuring fall; o'erhead
The lofty bay trees spread.

They see it ever rushing fleet,
They see it flowing at their feet,
Burn in sweet shadows there
To mate with Sea and Air.

But when it flees the hard land's thrall,
Loud thundering smites the rocky wall.
Dizzy the flood spins round
In mist-rings with no sound;

Through flowery groves it roams again,
Swallowing deep draughts of Death's pain,
And then the tall bay trees
Waft down sweet reveries.

It's definitely worth reading the Epigrams, by the way.


[Mocking the view which sees writers as deficient for not rounding their writings off with a Christian moral]

Hear Faust in the full authentic version;
The Poet's account is sheer perversion.
Faust was up to his ears in debts,
Was dissolute, played at cards for bets;
No offer of help from above was extended,
So he wanted it all ignominiously ended,
But was overwhelmed by a fearful sensation
Of Hell and the anguish of desperation.
He then devoted due reflection
To Knowledge, Deed, Life, Death, and Perdition;
And on these topics had much to say
In a darkly mystical sort of way.
Couldn't the Poet have managed to tell
How debts lead man to the Devil and Hell;
Who loses his credit may well conceivably
Forfeit redemption quite irretrievably.

Kant and Fichte soar to heavens blue
Seeking for some distant land,
I but seek to grasp profound and true
That which--in the street I find.