Now It's Official - War on Syria

[il Commy]

After the Islamic Jihad played into the hands of Sharon and killed 19 innocent israeli civilians, the israeli public opinion is ready for war on anything arab. So today the IDF airplanes attacked targets in Syria, "terrorist training camps" (yeah, right). Syria tonight will ask the U.N. security council to condemn Israel's acts, I can guess right now who'll throw a veto...

USA imperialism want's to privatize Syria's industries, by force. It's not Bush, it's the capitalists who sent him, you can see how much money he raised for his elections' campaign because of Iraq war ($47,000,000 if I'm not mistaken). But the american army is too busy right now - in Iraq, Afghanistan, Philipines and guarding DPRK. And public opinon in the west and in the USA is against war now, after it was proven Saddam had no WMD's. So USA relies on it's zionist-imperialist-colonial-capitalist ally, Israel. The opinion of the israeli jewish proletariat (most of the population) is reactionary (thank you again dear Islamic Jihad) and the IDF is the strongest army in the middle east. If Israel wins, "hooray!". If it doesn't, the US army is just next door in Iraq. "We must save Israel, our ally, the only democracy in the middle east! The evil syrian terrorists must be occupied and their industries privatized!". And remember that the turkish bourgeoise has also a conflict with Syria.

So please, be prepared to demonstrate and show your solidarity with the syrian people. Those of you who are members of organizations, make sure your organization knows about this and is willing to protest.


Thank you.

[captainjustice]

Nicely said. This is the first time that Israel has attacked Syria in three decades!

[Severian]

Here's (http://dailytelegraph.news.com.au/story.jsp?sectionid=1274&storyid=294338) the first report from the area that was bombed - Ein Saheb, Syria. It's an AP story.

Apparently this was once a training camp - for the PFLP, not Islamic Jihad - but it hasn't been used for many years.

Probably Israel is attempting to provoke retaliation. As a number of Palestinian groups have aptly said, to export its internal crisis into a conflict with neighboring countries.

[(*]

I find it interesting that the United States claims that the WMD's are in Syria, and then this happens.

The Israeli Govt. also claim that Iran financed the "base" in Syria

[LuZhiming]

I can't say this whole deal is even a surprise to me. I find this part of the article Severian posted amusing though: Iran's foreign minister, Kamal Kharrazi , said the strike was a bid "to divert the public opinion from the sufferings of Palestinian people arising from (the Israeli) occupation".

[Ian]

I don't think Bush can afford (politically and militarily) to take America to another war before the 2004 election, this may just be part of the election campaign really, just trying to scare people to vote for him.

But I'm just speculating, in a few days I may look at this post and think "What was I thinking?! Israel bombing Syria as part of an election campaign for Dubya!"

Any word on casualities from the bombings?

[FabFabian]

Saw this one coming....

[il Commy]

Originally posted by Ian [email protected] 6 2003, 03:41 AM
Any word on casualities from the bombings?
I don't think there were casualties. Maybe the IDF missed and maybe it was just empty.

[Severian]

A PFLP source says that one "civilian guard" was injured. They probably had a few people to keep someone from wandering in and taking old weapons stored there or whatnot....

Follow-up AP story (http://) by the same guy as the last one. Still the only guy who seems to be reporting from the spot.

I'm not sure why you think that's funny, Lu; 'cause Iran's doing the same thing? Be that as it may, it's probably an accurate assessment of what Israel's trying to do here. Getting into wars with the Arab states has always been a good excuse for the Israeli gov't to make new attacks on Palestinians.

[YKTMX]

Originally posted by (*@Oct 6 2003, 03:25 AM
I find it interesting that the United States claims that the WMD's are in Syria, and then this happens.

The Israeli Govt. also claim that Iran financed the "base" in Syria
Jesus. Iran AND Syria in league with the Palestinians! The Israeli's should just Nuke the entire Gulf region and save us all time.

[Invader Zim]

I still think it may be Iran up next, as the US even gave Iran an "official" warning.

[il Commy]

There was a vote on the security council. Guess who voted (with a veto) against condeming Israel? That's right! The dear USA!

Bush said today "Israel has a right to defend itself. Yep, defending by attacking it's neighbour country who hasn't done any aggressive move. With such self-defence who needs agressiveness?

[LuZhiming]

I'm not sure why you think that's funny, Lu; 'cause Iran's doing the same thing? Be that as it may, it's probably an accurate assessment of what Israel's trying to do here. Getting into wars with the Arab states has always been a good excuse for the Israeli gov't to make new attacks on Palestinians.

I didn't mean to imply that it wasn't accurate. It probably is. I just thought it was funny that the Iranian foreign minister pointed that out. I have a strange sense of humor I suppose.

[Marxist in Nebraska]

Originally posted by Ian [email protected] 5 2003, 10:41 PM
I don't think Bush can afford (politically and militarily) to take America to another war before the 2004 election, this may just be part of the election campaign really, just trying to scare people to vote for him.
I think Bush would like to get the U.S. into another war. War is one of the surefire ways to get people to blindly follow the leader--we have to stand united behind Bush to save ourselves from those awful Arabs, or so the line goes. Besides, Bush likes to play tough guy, whether he is setting a record for most executions by a governor or bombing Afghanistan or Iraq.

[il Commy]

News headline: "IDF Soldier Killed by Lebanese Fire".


And off to war we go!

[Zombie]

Bush can't afford to attack Syria right now, with such low ratings anyhow.

Israel will do the dirty job for him, for starter.

As war goes on, Israel calls for the US to back it up.

Bush finally gets his motives (quite an excellent one, don't you think?) to attack Syria, and since it is already stationned just next door (the newly colonized Iraq), it won't cost as much as the previous intrusion.

Very clever if you ask me.

Who ever said the Americans were unclever people?

[Sensitive]

Zombie, it isn't just ratings that is preventing Washington from invading another country - it is the fact that they only have three free brigades at this time (not enough for an invasion). All of the others are either being used in Iraq or somewhere else, and Washington has been able to get very few other countries to help them with the dirty work in Iraq (i.e. send troops).

[Marxist in Nebraska]

Originally posted by [email protected] 6 2003, 06:54 PM
it isn't just ratings that is preventing Washington from invading another country - it is the fact that they only have three free brigades at this time (not enough for an invasion). All of the others are either being used in Iraq or somewhere else, and Washington has been able to get very few other countries to help them with the dirty work in Iraq (i.e. send troops).
Sensitive is right. The U.S. cannot invade Syria or seek major military engagement because they are using nearly all of their personnel to occupy Iraq (and Afghanistan, to a lesser extent). Dubya does have Syria near the top of his invasion wish list, but he does not have the troops to commit to it at this time.

Zombie's idea of low poll numbers is not very solid. Presidents WANT to start wars if their popularity is down--it is quite the useful distraction.

Edit: My last sentence made more sense in the first paragraph, so I moved it.

[il Commy]

The american congress put sanctions on Syria. More preperations for imperialist war of US and Israel on the nationalized economy of Syria. This was all expected, and the future war is expected too.


The funniest thing someone said to me: "This USA support for Israel is only thanks to the great speech ability of our wonderful ambassador at the UN!".


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[myth]

Is it a coincidence that attack is one day before 6th of Oct ? the memory 30 for the 'youm keppor' war which caused first israelian military lose ..?

[suffianr]

L'État, c'est George.

The Sun King strikes again.

[Sabocat]

Originally posted by [email protected] 6 2003, 01:59 PM
I still think it may be Iran up next, as the US even gave Iran an "official" warning.
After reading an article about the U$ being pissed off because Iraq and now Iran were thinking of converting to the Euro standard instead of the U$ standard for selling their oil, I have to kind of agree.

Unfortuantely, it also said in the article that Venezuela was considering the same move. I wouldn't be surprised if they weren't on the short list as well.

It's an interesting read if anyone here hasn't seen it.

http://www.projectcensored.org/publication...ns/2004/19.html (http://www.projectcensored.org/publications/2004/19.html)

As for Syria, I'm guessing that that is a gift from the U$ to Israel with the U$' blessing.

[captainjustice]

Doesn't it show just how sick of a Nation we live in when we speculate which country that we will attack next. By the way I'm really into the PFLP, and I'm wondering if there is a PFLP website.

And, Marxist in Nebraska, The US can't afford to have another war right now, because, as you said before, we already have troops occuping every continent in the world. Including chasing the damn fundimentalist terrorists in Antarctica who vow to "Take over the whole continent."
These guys are friggin' lethal...

[il Commy]

The Communist Party of Israel against the attack on Syria:

http://www.maki.org.il/English/Escalation_..._the_north.html (http://www.maki.org.il/English/Escalation_in_the_North/escalation_in_the_north.html)

"Escalation in the North - Another Recipe for Failure

The CPI warns against the plans of the Sharon Government to destabilize the situation along the northern border in order to distract the Israeli public's attention from the policy of force against the Palestinians, as well as to aid the aggressive policies of the Bush Administration.

In a statement issued October 7, The CPI condemns the Sharon government's provocation towards Syria and warns against dragging the peoples of the region in to a full scale war.

The attack by the Israeli air force on a training camp near Damascus, the first of its type in twenty years, is an expression of the stalemate reached by the right wing's policy of brutal occupation. After three years of particularly violent repression of the Palestinian people, it is clear to all that Sharon's policies are bringing a disaster to both peoples, the Israel and the Palestinian.

A further painful confirmation of the catastrophic nature of the occupation was the attack on the "Maxim" restaurant . The CPI condemns the attack, whose victims this time were Jews and Arabs, children and pensioners. The suicide attacks hurt the chances for peace and cause great damage to the Palestinian struggle for national independence.

The aerial attack on Syria, as the assassinations, closures, and destruction in the occupied territories, are an invitation for military escalation, increased bloodshed, and in no way bring peace and security to the people.

The CPI's announcement emphasizes that the aerial attack on Syria received the blessing of the Bush administration. The American government rushed to announce that it would veto any denunciation of Israel that would be brought up at the U.N. security council.

Bush's position is not surprising as the attack on Syria under the pretense of the "war on Terror", serves the aggressive global policies of the American government and its offensive plans against certain nations, including Syria. As the Sharon government hides behind its attack on Syria to conceal its failure to crush the Palestinian people, so the U.S. would like to increase the tension concerning Syria to hide its growing entanglement in Iraq."

[Reuben]

I for one hope that should a war occur between Syria nad Israle the left, rather than simply aligning with the Syrian governement, take a more sophisticaated position in favour of equality demcrac and human rights and thus call forthe downfall of the israeli governments both of which deny palestinains basic political rights.