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Edelweiss
16th October 2001, 16:04
Why we oppose the war in Afghanistan
Statement of the WSWS Editorial Board
9 October 2001

The World Socialist Web Site condemns the American military assault on
Afghanistan. We reject the dishonest claims of the Bush administration
that this is a war for justice and the security of the American people
against terrorism.

The hijack-bombings of September 11 were politically criminal attacks
on innocent civilians. Whoever perpetrated this crime must be
condemned as enemies of the American and international working class.
The fact that no one has claimed responsibility only underscores the
profoundly reactionary character of these attacks.

But while the events of September 11 have served as the catalyst for the
assault on Afghanistan, the cause is far deeper. The nature of this or any
war, its progressive or reactionary character, is determined not by the
immediate events that preceded it, but rather by the class structures,
economic foundations and international roles of the states that are
involved. From this decisive standpoint, the present action by the United
States is an imperialist war.

The US government initiated the war in pursuit of far-reaching
international interests of the American ruling elite. What is the main
purpose of the war? The collapse of the Soviet Union a decade ago
created a political vacuum in Central Asia, which is home to the second
largest deposit of proven reserves of petroleum and natural gas in the
world.

The Caspian Sea region, to which Afghanistan provides strategic access,
harbors approximately 270 billion barrels of oil, some 20 percent of the
world’s proven reserves. It also contains 665 trillion cubic feet of natural
gas, approximately one-eighth of the planet’s gas reserves.

These critical resources are located in the world’s most politically
unstable region. By attacking Afghanistan, setting up a client regime and
moving vast military forces into the region, the US aims to establish a new
political framework within which it will exert hegemonic control.

These are the real considerations that motivate the present war. The
official version, that the entire American military has been mobilized
because of one individual, Osama bin Laden, is ludicrous. Bin Laden’s
brand of ultra-nationalist and religious obscurantist politics is utterly
reactionary, a fact that is underscored by his glorification of the
destruction of the World Trade Center and murder of nearly 6,000
civilians. But the US government’s depiction of bin Laden as an evil
demiurge serves a cynical purpose—to conceal the actual aims and
significance of the present war.

The demonization of bin Laden is of a piece with the modus operandi of
every war waged by the US over the past two decades, in each of
which—whether against the Panamanian “drug lord” Manuel Noriega,
the Somalian “war lord” Mohamed Farrah Aidid, or the modern-day
“Hitlers” Saddam Hussein and Slobodan Milosevic—the American
government and the media have sought to manipulate public opinion by
portraying the targeted leader as the personification of evil.

In an October 8 op-ed column in the New York Times, Fawaz A.
Gerges, a professor at Sarah Lawrence College, pointed to the real aims
that motivate the US war drive. Describing a conference of Arab and
Muslim organizations held a week ago in Beirut, Gerges wrote:

“Most participants claimed that the United States aims at far more than
destroying Osama bin Laden’s Al Qaeda organization and toppling the
Taliban regime. These representatives of the Muslim world were almost
unanimously suspicious of America’s intentions, believing that the United
States has an overarching strategy which includes control of the oil and
gas resources in Central Asia, encroachment on Chinese and Russian
spheres of influence, destruction of the Iraqi regime, and consolidation of
America’s grip on the oil-producing Persian Gulf regimes.

“Many Muslims suspected the Bush administration of hoping to exploit
this tragedy to settle old scores and assert American hegemony in the
world.”

These suspicions are entirely legitimate. Were the US to oust the Taliban,
capture or kill bin Laden and wipe out what Washington calls his terrorist
training camps, the realization of these aims would not be followed by the
withdrawal of American forces. Rather, the outcome would be the
permanent placement of US military forces to establish the US as the
exclusive arbiter of the region’s natural resources. In these strategic aims
lie the seeds of future and even more bloody conflicts.

This warning is substantiated by a review of recent history. America’s
wars of the past 20 years have invariably arisen from the consequences
of previous US policies. There is a chain of continuity, in which
yesterday’s US ally has become today’s enemy.

The list includes the one-time CIA asset Noriega, the former Persian Gulf
ally Saddam Hussein, and yesterday’s American protégé Milosevic. Bin
Laden and the Taliban are the latest in the chain of US assets
transformed into targets for destruction.

In the case of Iraq, the US supported Saddam Hussein in the 1980s as
an ally against the Khomeini regime in Iran. But when the Iraqi regime
threatened US oil interests in the Persian Gulf, Saddam Hussein was
transformed into a demon and war was launched against Baghdad. The
main purpose of the Gulf War was to establish a permanent US military
presence in the Persian Gulf, a presence that remains in place more than
a decade later.

Even more tragic is the outcome of US sponsorship of bin Laden and the
Taliban. They are products of the US policy, begun in the late 1970s and
continued throughout the 1980s, of inciting Islamic fundamentalism to
weaken the Soviet Union and undermine its influence in Central Asia. Bin
Laden and other Islamic fundamentalists were recruited by the CIA to
wage war against the USSR and destabilize Central Asia.

In the chaos and mass destruction that followed, the Taliban was helped
along and brought to power with the blessings of the American
government. Those who make US policy believed the Taliban would be
useful in stabilizing Afghanistan after nearly two decades of civil war.

American policy-makers saw in this ultra-reactionary sect an instrument
for furthering US aims in the Caspian basin and Persian Gulf, and placing
increasing pressure on China and Russia. If, as the Bush administration
claims, the hijack-bombing of the World Trade Center was the work of
bin Laden and his Taliban protectors, then, in the most profound and
direct sense, the political responsibility for this terrible loss of life rests
with the American ruling elite itself.

The rise of Islamic fundamentalist movements, infused with anti-American
passions, can be traced not only to US support for the Mujahedin in
Afghanistan and Pakistan, but also to American assaults on the Arab
world. At the same time that the CIA was arming the fundamentalists in
Afghanistan, it was supporting the Israeli invasion of Lebanon. This was
followed in 1983 by the US bombing of Beirut, in which the battleship
New Jersey lobbed 2,000-pound shells into civilian neighborhoods. This
criminal action led directly to retribution in the form of the bombing of the
US barracks in Beirut, which took the lives of 242 American soldiers.

The entire phenomenon associated with the figure of Osama bin Laden
has its roots, moreover, in Washington’s alliance with Saudi Arabia. The
US has for decades propped up this feudalist autocracy, which has
promoted its own brand of Islamic fundamentalism as a means of
maintaining its grip on power.

All of these twists and turns, with their disastrous repercussions, arise
from the nature of US foreign policy, which is not determined on the
basis of democratic principles or formulated in open discussion and
public debate. Rather, it is drawn up in pursuit of economic interests that
are concealed from the American people.

When the US government speaks of a war against terrorism, it is
thoroughly hypocritical, not only because yesterday’s terrorist is today’s
ally, and vice versa, but because American policy has produced a social
catastrophe that provides the breeding ground for recruits to terrorist
organizations. Nowhere are the results of American imperialism’s
predatory role more evident than in the indescribable poverty and
backwardness that afflict the people of Afghanistan.

What are the future prospects arising from the latest eruption of
American militarism? Even if the US achieves its immediate objectives,
there is no reason to believe that the social and political tinderbox in
Central Asia will be any less explosive.

US talk of “nation-building” in Afghanistan is predicated on its alliance
with the anti-Taliban Northern Alliance, with whom the Pentagon is
coordinating its military strikes. Just as Washington used the Albanian
terrorist Kosovo Liberation Army as its proxy in Kosovo, so now it
utilizes the gang of war lords centered in the northeast of Afghanistan as
its cat’s paw in Central Asia.

Since the Northern Alliance will now be portrayed as the champion of
freedom and humanitarianism, it is instructive to note recent articles in the
New York Times and elsewhere reporting that the vast bulk of the Afghan
opium trade comes from the meager territory controlled by the Alliance.
The military satraps of the Northern Alliance are, moreover, notorious for
killing thousands of civilians by indiscriminately firing rockets into Kabul
in the early 1990s.

The sordid and illusory basis upon which the US proposes to “rebuild”
Afghanistan, once it is finished pummeling the country, was suggested in a
New York Times article on the onset of the war. “The Pentagon’s hope,”
wrote the Times, “is that the combination of the psychological shock of
the air strike, bribes to anti-Taliban forces in Afghanistan covertly
supported by Washington and sheer opportunism will lead many of the
Taliban’s fighters to put down their arms and defect.”

Given the nature of the region, with its vast stores of critical resources, it
is self-evident that none of the powers in Central Asia will long accept a
settlement in which the US is the sole arbiter. Russia, Iran, China,
Pakistan and India all have their own interests, and they will seek to
pursue them. Furthermore, the US presence will inevitably conflict with
the interests of the emerging bourgeois regimes in the lesser states in the
region that have been carved out of the former Soviet Union.

At each stage in the eruption of American militarism, the scale of the
resulting disasters becomes greater and greater. Now the US has
embarked on an adventure in a region that has long been the focus of
intrigue between the Great Powers, a part of the world, moreover, that is
bristling with nuclear weapons and riven by social, political, ethnic and
religious tensions that are compounded by abject poverty.

The New York Times, in a rare moment of lucidity, described the dangers
implicit in the US war drive in an October 2 article headlined “In
Pakistan, a Shaky Ally.” The author wrote: “By drafting this fragile and
fractious nation into a central role in the ‘war on terrorism,’ America runs
the danger of setting off a cataclysm in a place where civil violence is a
likely bet and nuclear weapons exist.”

Neither in the proclamations of the US government, nor in the reportage
of the media, is there any serious examination of the real economic and
geo-strategic aims motivating the military assault. Nor is there any
indication that the US political establishment has seriously considered the
far-reaching and potentially catastrophic consequences of the course
upon which it has embarked.

Despite a relentless media campaign to whip up chauvinism and
militarism, the mood of the American people is not one of gung-ho
support for the war. At most, it is a passive acceptance that war is the
only means to fight terrorism, a mood that owes a great deal to the efforts
of a thoroughly dishonest media which serves as an arm of the state.
Beneath the reluctant endorsement of military action is a profound sense
of unease and skepticism. Tens of millions sense that nothing good can
come of this latest eruption of American militarism.

The United States stands at a turning point. The government admits it has
embarked on a war of indefinite scale and duration. What is taking place
is the militarization of American society under conditions of a deepening
social crisis.

The war will profoundly affect the conditions of the American and
international working class. Imperialism threatens mankind at the
beginning of the twenty-first century with a repetition on a more horrific
scale of the tragedies of the twentieth. More than ever, imperialism and
its depredations raise the necessity for the international unity of the
working class and the struggle for socialism.

World Socialist Web Site (http://www.wsws.org)

Anonymous
16th October 2001, 16:20
although i didnt read the statement by WSWS i am fully aware of what this war is about and know the arguments against it. Like many people here i am oposed to US action not because "i am obligated to disagree with the US at every turn", as a right wing little man once told me, but because i undersand what is going on. As i also understand the effect subliminar and disquised propaganda by news organisation that are supost to be objective has on people. The hole affare makes me sick, and it will only agravate the problems that cause terrorism in the frist place. At the cost of inocent lives the US will do nothing but enlarge the problem.

reagan lives
16th October 2001, 20:15
Malte, did you notice that there is no real justification given in this little love note other than "because the WSWS and a 'conference of Arab and Muslim organizations' says so?" This whole piece of crap is speculation. Oh, but it includes the same laundry list of complaints against Cold War foreign policy that keep getting repeated over and over and over again around here? Well, then I'm convinced. If the World Socialist Web Site spake it, then it must be true.

I imagine, Malte, that you'll ask me to "disprove anything that is said" in the amateur essay that I just wasted my time reading. I'll then tell you again that there's nothing in it but speculation supported (though this support is not justified in the least) by a view of history that is biased in the extreme.

CimSaint
17th October 2001, 01:30
Reagan, do you doubt that the US will establish a government that they can control after they get bin Laden? The US has rejected an offer by the Taliban to hand over bin Laden if the US can prove he was guilty of the crime. Apparently, that isn't good enough. We know he did it, so the Taliban should hand him over.
If an Arab nation demanded that we hand over a Christian radical for trial, do you think we would take their word for it, or do you think we would demand evidence of their involvement?

reagan lives
17th October 2001, 03:01
I see you're new here, so I don't mind debunking this "US rejection of altruistic Taliban offer" theory again.

In essence, the Taliban offered to try bin Laden under Islamic law in exchange for what amounted to information on how we collect intelligence concerning terrorists. Not as attractive a proposal as some would have you believe.

CommieBastard
17th October 2001, 16:48
And yet a much more attractive proposal offered by the US.

If the Taliban asked to have a christian radical(before S11), and said that they would not reveal how they found out about it, but would bomb the US if they didnt hand him over, do you think the US would capitulate? Somehow, i do not think so...

reagan lives
17th October 2001, 21:14
Except that the Taliban didn't even make such offers. They simply snatched aid workers (European and American) because they were doing volunteer work that was sponsored by Christian groups.

CommieBastard
17th October 2001, 21:16
And is that any worse than what the US now does?
and maybe we should also look at the fact that in all likeliness at least some of them were in fact agents from secret services.
Not to mention that they were indirectly promoting christianity, and knew the risks of doing so. Not only that, but some of them may well have been directly promoting it, do you know whether they were or not?

AgustoSandino
17th October 2001, 22:27
I think CBs got you Reagan. Hey by the way CB, along with Marx and Che who else do you count as your ideological influences...Neville Chamberlain?!?!

Because if you haven't realized it the enemy has remilitarized the rhineland, taking suddentanland and is moving in on poland...Yet you continue to make excuses for them.

CommieBastard
17th October 2001, 22:39
You are correct Agusto, we should give our enemy no quarter, we cannot excuse their crimes any longer. We must finally stop the US now, or never.

CommieBastard
17th October 2001, 23:24
And no, i do not include Neville Chamberlain as a political influence, i do however include Ghandi.

Guest
18th October 2001, 00:26
Well iam neutral on this idiotic war, because both sides dont give a shit about human rights and freedom. But i do agree that our goverments bombing of afganistan will only make things worse.

reagan lives
18th October 2001, 00:43
"we should also look at the fact that in all likeliness at least some of them were in fact agents from secret services."
Why, again, is this likely?

"Not to mention that they were indirectly promoting christianity, and knew the risks of doing so. Not only that, but some of them may well have been directly promoting it, do you know whether they were or not?"
No, no I do not, and neither do you. What I do know is that they were giving food to starving people. From this statement, CB, it sounds like you are promoting religious persecution...."if they were, in fact, promoting a religion other than that sponsored by the regime in power, they can and should be imprisoned."

Anonymous
18th October 2001, 04:40
America atacks afganistan because they have to do something, they where humiliated, so mr.cowboy has to start shooting at someone. It really doesnt matter who you see. Since 5 min after the atack everybody was talking about bin laden, so there you have it! someone to bomb the shit out of and show that america RULES!
They cant get away with this! This is USA man!


who cares about proof
who cares about negociation, justice, the rule of law
We dont need to show the taliban shit, WE GIVE ORDERS!

god bless...

Guest
18th October 2001, 05:04
well I'm convinced.

AgustoSandino
18th October 2001, 05:13
Despite what you might think of the American Government, and even if its sole purpose was to defend the "upper classes", the US government would not take this action without concrete evidence. Let me explain, for the last time I hope.

The truth, in which the government, despite its faults, looks out for the welfare of the nation and its citizens, the US has only one choice: To attack the GUILTY party. First off it can't not attack, the lack of vigilant retaliation would only invite more attacks. If anyone here has been paying attention to history the lack of gall on behalf of the US, our inability to enforce any penalties for previous terrorist attacks was interpreted as a lack of resolve. This is something that goes back to 1979 and the embassy take overs, goes through the eighties with the marine peacekeeping barracks in Lebanon, then the hostages in Beirut, the ambush of troops in Somalia, the first WTC attack, the Khobar tower bombings, the embassy bombings in africa and the USS Cole attack. For all those acts the US did nothing substantial, what it did do made it appear like a paper tiger that had no stomach for fighting. Because of that the US has to attack. But any sort of scapegoating would only invite more attacks of the sort. If the government attributed this attack to bin laden and al queda simply to satisfy the blood lust of the public then the US would be giving the real perpetrators a blank check. What I'm sayin is, that if someonelse commited these attacks and saw bin laden being blamed, they would realize that America is unable to catch them, the real culprit. They would then have even less fear of being caught and would not hesitate to commit yet another act of terrorism.

If the US government is as many here assert a tool of the wealthy, then it would do just the same, if only with less consideration for the lives of innocents.

Personally we don't have to show anyone that we rule, look at our immigration roles. Why do people come here? Why did I come here? Not because it sucked, but because it ruled, and will continue to do so my friend, despite you or osama bin laden.

Anonymous
18th October 2001, 11:34
"Personally we don't have to show anyone that we rule, look at our immigration roles. Why do people come here? Why did I come here? Not because it sucked, but because it ruled, and will continue to do so my friend, despite you or osama bin laden." -

heh let me just explain something here, i really dont care if it sucks or it rules. Personaly i have no interest what so ever in the american society or way of life, but if you do that find by me. What i do have a problem with is your actions in the world, that 95% of the time are imoral and prejudicial to either to some people--like bombing campaings-- or to all people-- like 1/4 of the worlds pollutions with mr.cowboy talking about drilling in alaska etc...--


but back to the topic at hand:

1- i dont care if you have proof or not, that really isnt the point. The point is you must legitimate your case against the prepetratores with proof, you must show it and ask for the extradiction of those you have proof on. Now either you have proof and dont present it BECAUSE YOU WANT A WAR, or you dont have proof,which in the last case it is an even bigger crime. My point : you dont just want to get who ever is responsible for the atacks, you want a CNN war to show the flag maniacs back home that its pay back time or something. Plus if you would act acording to international law, you might get proof on some of the members of al queda (assuming they are responsible) but not all, and you dont want to be restricted by this inconvenience, this law crap. If you unalataraly kill people desreguarding need for proof you(the US gov.) are just as bad as they are.

2- You say you will act and must act to prevent further atacks. Well its a point of view i guess, maybe you right and the way to aproch this issue is with repressive messsures. However i dont share this view. Look at Isreal it acts all the time, it kills people, planes assasinations, makes incurtions, uses secret servises,apache helicopters, F16 fighter jets... And yet...
Look at Spain it uses force also...


Everday you cause colataral damage in afganistan, everyday you make things worse on your selves. You over estimate the power conventional army Vs terrorist/guerrila forces; and you underestimate the importante of a none intrusive none opressive foriegn policy.


dispite my difference of opinion with most americans about the merit of there goverment and actions in the world augosto beleive me when i tell you that i wish you no harm. what distreses me about this situation is not only colateral damage but also the fact that you are put (in my humble opinion) you selves inadvertedly in an even more precarious situation by not acting acording to international law, refusing to negociate and unilataraly atacking.

an eye for an eye makes the hole world blind.

Nickademus
18th October 2001, 14:23
Quote: from reagan lives on 10:14 pm on Oct. 17, 2001
Except that the Taliban didn't even make such offers. They simply snatched aid workers (European and American) because they were doing volunteer work that was sponsored by Christian groups.


are you aware of the fact that the us bombing killed 4 UN aid workers in the first 2 days of bombing

AgustoSandino
18th October 2001, 14:57
I think we are aware of the fact nickademus, but explain the point of your comment. Where you trying to show that we "kill" more aid workers than the taliban. Obviously intent

AgustoSandino
18th October 2001, 19:10
damn, got cut off i see, what i was saying is that intent is very important here, as it is in any western court. Want to blame something, blame our collective western utilitarian outlook.

Kez
22nd October 2001, 23:30
Hey im new to this forum.....
...so forgive me if u think what im sayin is naive

The Americans are fucking idiots (govt), they paid Bin Laden, they trained him then he shited all over them.
Some Iraqi had the right idea on a banner of his/her
"You sow what you reap" so true
If the AMericans hadnt been so jealour of the might Soviet Union then they wouldnt of paid the Taleban to bring down the pro-socialist govt before the taleban.

On a similair note, notice how the American govt bullsh*ts all the time abou it being an attack on the free world etc etc , how can they say that when the USA has proped up or helped prop up more puppet dictators than anyone else ever? (Pinochet, Khomeini, Taleban, S.Vietnam [fortunately liberated], S.Korea, the list goes on) Now they have paid for their crime.

Having said the above i wish to express that i am not against the American people however ignorant they are, and that i give my deepest condolences to the vicitms of the Sept11 attack

Yours 16 yr old Comrade from the UK