Stormtrooper-like Behavior by US Police

[MattShizzle]

Once again. This time the Park Police:

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[MattShizzle]

Too bad the crowd didn't overwhelm them and afterwards stomp on chests, throats and faces. Behavior like this by police deserves violent resistance.

[PhoenixAsh]

We are awfully sorry folks. The Memorial is temporarilly closed because we have to safe you from dangerous terroists who might have exposed you to merryment, love and affection. We can not have this in our country.

[Die Rote Fahne]

There's a dance party occurring there on Saturday to protest the law and the arrests.

If I were an American around that area I would show up.

[MattShizzle]

I believe Thomas Jefferson himself would have been horrified by this.

[Octavian]

The tree of liberty must be danced in front of from time to time with the love of patriots and the blood of tyrants. It is its natural manure.

[Lacrimi de Chiciură]

um... Why is it illegal to dance in the Jefferson Memorial?

[PhoenixAsh]

um... Why is it illegal to dance in the Jefferson Memorial?

Because freedom is yukkie. And...people shouldn't be exposed to it?

[Tim Finnegan]

um... Why is it illegal to dance in the Jefferson Memorial?
The various US security services are deeply committed to the art of self-parody. It is their highest and truest calling.

[MattShizzle]

Well, when the protest on Saturday happens hopefully some guys set up nearby as snipers in case they try to arrest anyone for it...

[turquino]

Yeah let's allow a group of spastic losers to shit over any public space whenever they feel like it. It's free speech maaannn... why do you hate freedom?

Let me know when some real oppression takes place.

[PhoenixAsh]

Yeah let's allow a group of spastic losers to shit over any public space whenever they feel like it. It's free speech maaannn... why do you hate freedom?

Let me know when some real oppression takes place.

Sure...hell...expressing some merryment and kissing and dancing are such vile behaviours that we need to stomp it out. Because you know...the statue is really going to mind...and other people might take offence.

This is oppression...its the next step. Well on the road to bonapartism and eventually fascism.

[Blackscare]

Yeah let's allow a group of spastic losers to shit over any public space whenever they feel like it. It's free speech maaannn... why do you hate freedom?

Let me know when some real oppression takes place.

Stop trolling.

[turquino]

Sure...hell...expressing some merryment and kissing and dancing are such vile behaviours that we need to stomp it out. Because you know...the statue is really going to mind...and other people might take offence.

This is oppression...its the next step. Well on the road to bonapartism and eventually fascism.
You're exaggerating more than a little. First, this is not arbitrary abuse of the park service's power (fascism, obviously), but came from an appeals court ruling. It's not protected expression because they were creating a spectacle inside the small enclosed space of the memorial, and they didn't have a permit to do it. I expect the parks service would do the same if an individual was screaming at other patrons or throwing trash around the place.

The dancers also look really stupid and embarrassing.

[MattShizzle]

So because the court supported fascism it's OK? Wake up, US courts for the most part are very anti-freedom, anti-worker and pro-fascism.

[Leftsolidarity]

You're exaggerating more than a little. First, this is not arbitrary abuse of the park service's power (fascism, obviously), but came from an appeals court ruling. It's not protected expression because they were creating a spectacle inside the small enclosed space of the memorial, and they didn't have a permit to do it. I expect the parks service would do the same if an individual was screaming at other patrons or throwing trash around the place.

The dancers also look really stupid and embarrassing.

Why are you even on this site?

[PhoenixAsh]

You're exaggerating more than a little. First, this is not arbitrary abuse of the park service's power (fascism, obviously), but came from an appeals court ruling. It's not protected expression because they were creating a spectacle inside the small enclosed space of the memorial, and they didn't have a permit to do it. I expect the parks service would do the same if an individual was screaming at other patrons or throwing trash around the place.

The dancers also look really stupid and embarrassing.

Riiight...they were protesting the court ruling based on a previous case of a woman dancing to celebrate TJs birthday back in 2008. Jefferson...the man who once said: I am opposed to any form of tyranny over the mind of man.

Terribly ironic...that in the `shrine` to the burgeoisie man who opposed oppression on freedom of expression and speech...those exact same liberties he held very high are violated and repressed.

The court ruling btw stated that dancing violated the contemplative nature of the monuments and was therefore forebidden.

That court ruling is a farce.

Lets not equate the movements that they made with screaming and throwing around trash.

Any ways...most demonstrations by leftists are declared illegal by courts. Lets not hide behind laws to say something is not repression or should be respected based on that fact.

[a rebel]

you know who liked to dance at memorials? Hitler. Clearly these fine policemen were stopping a very merry Nazi rally from taking place. It's the only thing that makes sense, cause you know police can't be wrong.

[Tim Finnegan]

Terribly ironic...that in the `shrine` to the burgeoisie man who opposed oppression on freedom of expression and speech...those exact same liberties he held very high are violated and repressed.
And yet somehow fitting: as the bourgeois republic has transformed from being a progressive, emancipatory force to a reactionary, oppressive one, so its monuments transform from being celebrations of emancipation to being locations of oppression. It may not be what Jefferson wanted, but its the natural historical conclusion of the state he constructed. Arbitrarily state violence being meted out at Jefferson's feet can be taken as a slight upon his ideals, yes, but can it not also be taken as a blunt illustration of the fact that dead old white guys and their enchanted parchment aren't going to save us now? ;)

[PhoenixAsh]

Thats completely true!

[MattShizzle]

As has been posted by others - this clearly is abuse of power and a ruling by corrupt courts. Requiring a permit in order to protest is an extremely reactionary thing and only used in order to limit protest to what the borguiose agree with. The 1st ammendment wasn't written in order to only allow certain speech at certain times in certain places if the exploiter class is OK with it.
Of course idiots still like to say the US is the most free country in the world which is utter bullshit.
BTW if China or Cuba or N Korea arrested people simply for dancing at a national monument what do you think the reaction of the Western press would be? Has this story been covered in the Western press at all? What does that say?

[Magón]

When I visit DC, dancing or kissing my girlfriend at the Jefferson Memorial, is going to be on top of the list of things to do there.

Seriously, cops will do anything to make that quota. It's fucking sickening.

[Reznov]

So was that the cops official reason? Like disturbing a monument or something?

[TwoSevensClash]

Too bad the crowd didn't overwhelm them and afterwards stomp on chests, throats and faces. Behavior like this by police deserves violent resistance.
My uncle was a cop during the Newark riots. A huge crowd sorrounded him he told them to disperse they responded by beating him and torching his police booth.

[Magón]

The guy who gets slammed down, is awesome.

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[Obs]

My uncle was a cop during the Newark riots. A huge crowd sorrounded him he told them to disperse they responded by beating him and torching his police booth.
Awesome

[Aurora]

I believe Thomas Jefferson himself would have been horrified by this.
Ya im sure he would have been outraged at such an injustice and made sure that one of his slaves delivered an official complaint.

[Sasha]

"if i cant dance i wont be part of your bourgeois liberal republic" - Thomas Jefferson

[tracher999]

nice video haha fuck all cops man we want freedom you bastards:cool::laugh:

[Leftsolidarity]

My uncle was a cop during the Newark riots. A huge crowd sorrounded him he told them to disperse they responded by beating him and torching his police booth.

Good for them

[MattShizzle]

Another example - the murder of an older deaf Native American by a Gestapo-like cop:

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[Lord Testicles]

Watch this:

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Feel better?

[Leftsolidarity]

Watch this:

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Feel better?

That video always makes me smile

[MattShizzle]

Nice. Where was that BTW? That's what more people need to do

[Leftsolidarity]

Either Mexico or somewhere in central America I think. Could be wrong though.

[An archist]

That's obviously fake, or a promotion for a movie or something.
I mean, of course cops are the tool of repression used by the state,...
but, this is just a parody right? Cops arresting people for dancing, that's something that only happens in cartoons where evil dictators rule the world. Right?

[Le Socialiste]

This is America - nothing more, nothing less. Police brutality is not uncommon. What really bothers me is the amount of bystanders who merely stood there while it happened. Instead of publicly defying these guys, the people just filmed what happened. It worries me, as it reminds me that we're becoming increasingly detached from the events that surround us. I just wish more people had resisted...

[Le Socialiste]

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[Tommy4ever]

Nice. Where was that BTW? That's what more people need to do

I think it was Portugal. I heard them say ''Benfica'' and ''Giovanni Trapattoni''.

[xub3rn00dlex]

I think it was Portugal. I heard them say ''Benfica'' and ''Giovanni Trapattoni''.

I believe so, that is not spanish they're speaking.

[The Man]

I can't answer this argument:

If you should be able to dance everywhere, should you be able to dance at funerals?

[Decommissioner]

I can't answer this argument:

If you should be able to dance everywhere, should you be able to dance at funerals?

While it would be in poor taste to dance at a funeral, I think the real question is: Should the state determine where one can or cannot dance?

If a family finds it distasteful, I think a simple "hey, would you mind stop dancing?" would do, I hardly see the need to have armed men intervene in these matters.

[xub3rn00dlex]

I can't answer this argument:

If you should be able to dance everywhere, should you be able to dance at funerals?

What about ritual dances to guide spirits into the afterlife?

I agree with the poster above: the state has no business telling you where dancing is legal/illegal.

[Tim Finnegan]

I can't answer this argument:

If you should be able to dance everywhere, should you be able to dance at funerals?
Yeah, it's called a wake. What, you think the dead bugger wants you dribbling and snottering over his corpse, when you could be having a last little drinkee with 'im? :thumbup1:

[Magón]

I can't answer this argument:

If you should be able to dance everywhere, should you be able to dance at funerals?

If it was appropriate, sure, why not?

Some people just make up arguments like this, ignorant of the fact that people have a little thing called Common Sense. Most people have it, but there are times when people ignore it, and try making arguments like such.

It's best to just ignore them, or say most people use Common Sense in their life.

[Agent Ducky]

I can't answer this argument:

If you should be able to dance everywhere, should you be able to dance at funerals?

I dunno, it can't be much worse than coming to a funeral with a "God Hates Fags" sign...

[gorillafuck]

what were they actually protesting?

[MattShizzle]

I believe so, that is not spanish they're speaking.

If it's Portugese it's more likely Brazil than Portugal itself.

[∞]

errrr.... (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o_O8Msj7Sd0&feature=fvst)

[PhoenixAsh]

what were they actually protesting?

They were protesting the law which states they can't dance there...I am not kidding...

[Obs]

I can't answer this argument:

If you should be able to dance everywhere, should you be able to dance at funerals?
It's not the job of the state to determine what is and what is not a dick move.

[Rocky Rococo]

For their dance party, they should all wear powdered wigs and do minuets and stuff. I wanna see the cops arrest that.

[Obs]

For their dance party, they should all wear powdered wigs and do minuets and stuff. I wanna see the cops arrest that.
They won't, they'll just figure it's a Tea Party happening and leave it alone.

[bailey_187]

Ya im sure he would have been outraged at such an injustice and made sure that one of his slaves delivered an official complaint.

someones been reading howard zinn

[A Revolutionary Tool]

I can't answer this argument:

If you should be able to dance everywhere, should you be able to dance at funerals?
Should you be able to protest dead soldiers funerals?

[bailey_187]

Should you be able to protest dead soldiers funerals?

erm, no?

[A Revolutionary Tool]

erm, no?
Have you never heard of the WestBoro Baptist Church? Well they got famous because they protest funerals with signs like "God Hates Fags" "Thank God For Sept. 11" "Death Penalty For Fags" and stuff like that. They have gone before courts and won the right to do that but you can't even dance in that memorial without getting body slammed...Shame on us America.

[∞]

Should you be able to protest dead soldiers funerals?

Yes, but you should be able to kick their ass.

[bailey_187]

Have you never heard of the WestBoro Baptist Church? Well they got famous because they protest funerals with signs like "God Hates Fags" "Thank God For Sept. 11" "Death Penalty For Fags" and stuff like that. They have gone before courts and won the right to do that but you can't even dance in that memorial without getting body slammed...Shame on us America.

oh i didnt get what u ment

i give u thanks

[Le Libérer]

My uncle was a cop during the Newark riots. A huge crowd sorrounded him he told them to disperse they responded by beating him and torching his police booth.

Quote: "The police force does not exist to promote public safety, it does not exist to provide needs to the people, it does not exist to solve crimes or hunt down criminals, it exists to generate revenue for the government and to control the population." Adam Kokesh

[Triple A]

If it's Portugese it's more likely Brazil than Portugal itself.

It's portuguese from Portugal.

Btw: they say 2 guys were left unconscious and none was arrested.

[Leftsolidarity]

Btw: they say 2 guys were left unconscious and none was arrested.

That makes it even better

[MattShizzle]

Well, that protest seems like shit's going down. The protestors are Libertarians though so hopefully they masscare each other.

[PhoenixAsh]

yes...but THEY were protesting. We were not.

[Heathen Communist]

This is completely absurd. Laws against dancing? That's more than a little troubling...

[W1N5T0N]

What bothers me is that people are just walking by and not saying: Stop this they are just dancing! In Europe, e.g. the Netherlands you can just dance anywhere you want as long as you dont hurt people or scream around :D