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Desert Fox
5th October 2003, 10:53
The world is going down and you have to decide wich 6 people of the 9 you are going to take with you in a shelter. You can only take 6. You will have to vote and say why you chose certain people and didn't chose the others. And I would like to know if you want to have at the end of the vote the most chosen party wins or the most chosen people ?

Person:
a) a 16 year old pregnant female, with a low IQ who quited school
b) a 36 year old male cop, who was fired for exessive force
c) a 75 year old male priest
d) a 46 year old maleviolinist, that spent 7 years in jail because he dealed drugs
e) a 35 year old female doctor, that can't have children
f) a 20 year old black female protester, without any specific skils
g) a 25 year old gay architect
h) a 22 year old male law student *
i) a 21 year old female drug addict *

* If you chose one, you have to take the other one too, they don't want to be seperated

crazy comie
5th October 2003, 11:52
Originally posted by Desert [email protected] 5 2003, 10:53 AM
The world is going down and you have to decide wich 6 people of the 9 you are going to take with you in a shelter. You can only take 6. You will have to vote and say why you chose certain people and didn't chose the others. And I would like to know if you want to have at the end of the vote the most chosen party wins or the most chosen people ?

a) a 16 year old pregnant female, with a low IQ who quited school
g) a 25 year old gay architect
h) a 22 year old male law student *
i) a 21 year old female drug addict
20 year old black female protester, without any specific skils
a 35 year old female doctor, that can't have children

redstar2000
5th October 2003, 12:20
Why is this a "morals" test?

In any event, the choice is pretty easy...

a, f, and i are females in their reproductive years.

h comes along in the package with i.

e is a doctor, obviously a crucial skill.

d or g could fill the sixth spot (just because g is gay doesn't mean that he's incapable of intercourse with a fertile female).

I'm assuming that your idea here is who you want to emerge from the shelter and re-populate the world.

As to the rejects, the ex-cop would try to make himself the "alpha male" and monopolize all the females...reducing genetic diversity.

And the priest would just be a royal pain in the ass.

I don't understand the last question in your post.

Don't forget to let us know what any of this has to do with "morals".

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Blackberry
5th October 2003, 12:27
Erm...morals? Anyway, my six people would be...

a) a 16 year old pregnant female, with a low IQ who quited school
e) a 35 year old female doctor, that can't have children
f) a 20 year old black female protester, without any specific skils
g) a 25 year old gay architect
h) a 22 year old male law student *
i) a 21 year old female drug addict *

I will give reasons why I didn't pick b, c and d.

b) a 36 year old male cop, who was fired for exessive force: He's a lackey of imperialism. Also, he is most likely a sadist.
c) a 75 year old male priest: Who NEEDS religion...really?
d) a 46 year old maleviolinist, that spent 7 years in jail because he dealed drugs: I do not particularly like the violin, nor is music crucial for anything.

Lardlad95
5th October 2003, 13:08
Originally posted by [email protected] 5 2003, 12:20 PM
Why is this a "morals" test?

In any event, the choice is pretty easy...

a, f, and i are females in their reproductive years.

h comes along in the package with i.

e is a doctor, obviously a crucial skill.

d or g could fill the sixth spot (just because g is gay doesn't mean that he's incapable of intercourse with a fertile female).

I'm assuming that your idea here is who you want to emerge from the shelter and re-populate the world.

As to the rejects, the ex-cop would try to make himself the "alpha male" and monopolize all the females...reducing genetic diversity.

And the priest would just be a royal pain in the ass.

I don't understand the last question in your post.

Don't forget to let us know what any of this has to do with "morals".

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Yeah that is the best possible answer.

The point of surviving would to be repopulation, everyone who couldn't participate is useless.

The only moral dilema is why do the others deserve to die. For instance the priest, just because you don't like religion that is no reason to kill the man. THe only reason he wouldn't recieve shelter is because he's probably useless to reproduction.

No one on that list DESERVES to die, and none of them DESERVE to live.

It all just falls down into usefullness, and it must be looked at Objectively.

If you look at it from a biased stand point you've failed the test.

(*
5th October 2003, 13:48
I'm not sure if you are trying to see if we consider the pregnant female as 2. I don't, so my choices are...

A,E,F,G,H,I

They are the youngest of the 9

Dhul Fiqar
5th October 2003, 14:39
http://www.outofservice.com/morality

--- G.

Desert Fox
5th October 2003, 15:14
Originally posted by [email protected] 5 2003, 12:20 PM
I don't understand the last question in your post.
Well I meant is, there is a second section in this test. And who do you want to see proceed : the group of people is most chosen by you people, or the people that are most chosen


Don't forget to let us know what any of this has to do with "morals". LL has given the best possible answer to your question about morals



http://www.outofservice.com/morality

--- G.
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Funky Monk
5th October 2003, 15:49
A,F,H,I,E,D


Fuck the rest in the face

Don't Change Your Name
5th October 2003, 19:00
This moral test is really stupid.

In first place, you are not putting us into the situation. So it seems that the world's ending, and you can take 6/9 people to a shelter, but we dont know what's there saved. I believe the point is making the human race survive.
So we should pick what we think will be more necessary, right' That means telling 3 persons: "I'm sorry, but you will be left to die". That's really awful.
But back to the point: it's useless for them not to have somewhere to leave their knowledges. If there arent papers to write about medicines, the female doctor is useless for the future unless she says everything she learnt to the other people. So the architect will not be really useful because he wont be able to design, excepting if he finds an alternative way. The male law stundent needs somewhere to write too about what he learnt. Unless you want people to pass knowledge by their voices to the future generations, you need things. We cant pick without that information.

So, let's say we come to an agreement of how to leave knowledges for the future generations. We must concentrate what legacy we will leave them. So, analysising each person:

a) a 16 year old pregnant female, with a low IQ who quited school: we already have a new person coming. The other can educate them. Besides, the IQ test is not a very effective way to know about intelligence imho. She's young too, and can have more childrens. The female doctor can assist the baby's birth, however we dont know if there's any necessary equipment in the shelter. The girl can be educated too if necessary, I would make her come.

b) a 36 year old male cop, who was fired for exessive force: Probably a fascist insane idiot. He can reproduce but I bet he will be a pain in the ass, he might kill someone, he will abuse the women, and i dont think he will give a good legacy to the future. Sorry, but he's out.


c) a 75 year old male priest: I bet he would be good at inventing the history of those persons who survived the end of the world and recreated humanity. However, we dont need religions. Also, he is old, he might die soon. Maybe his "rifle" doesnt work anymore, maybe he needs viagra (the shelther might not have it), and even if he would still be fertile, his religion probably doesnt allow him to have sex (we don't know his religion), so he's out.

d) a 46 year old maleviolinist, that spent 7 years in jail because he dealed drugs: hard. He might have learnt a lot in prison. He can teach music to others but it is not useful honestly. Good age, he can reproduce, but he wont live that long. I don't like the idea of picking him.

e) a 35 year old female doctor, that can't have children: Not sure. We will need doctors, but she cant have children.

f) a 20 year old black female protester, without any specific skils: She will be a future mother, i dont care about her race. She's young and can be useful. I'd take her.

g) a 25 year old gay architect:Architects might be needed. He's young but we don't know if he would still want to have kids with a woman.

h) a 22 year old male law student: Young, could have many children. He might help in the future society.

i) a 21 year old female drug addict: She can have kids with the male student and she's young. We shouldn't have drugs in the shelter.

So I would say that A, F, H and I should go, not sure about the rest.

Goldfinger
5th October 2003, 19:20
Originally posted by Desert [email protected] 5 2003, 11:53 AM
The world is going down and you have to decide wich 6 people of the 9 you are going to take with you in a shelter. You can only take 6. You will have to vote and say why you chose certain people and didn't chose the others. And I would like to know if you want to have at the end of the vote the most chosen party wins or the most chosen people ?

Person:
a) a 16 year old pregnant female, with a low IQ who quited school
b) a 36 year old male cop, who was fired for exessive force
c) a 75 year old male priest
d) a 46 year old maleviolinist, that spent 7 years in jail because he dealed drugs
e) a 35 year old female doctor, that can't have children
f) a 20 year old black female protester, without any specific skils
g) a 25 year old gay architect
h) a 22 year old male law student *
i) a 21 year old female drug addict *

* If you chose one, you have to take the other one too, they don't want to be seperated
The gay architect: Because I like to talk about architecture, and gay intellectuals are often jolly good company

The 16 year old pregnant female: Since she has her whole life ahead of her (well, she could always have an abortion)

The two last ones: They're still young, so I'll bring them for the same reason as the one above

The protester: Has her whole life ahead of her, can always be convinced that she has to work to be valuable to the society

The cop: Who knows, maybe he'll fall in love with the protester, and they'll have intelligent kids who will cure cancer.

Dr. Rosenpenis
5th October 2003, 19:32
Originally posted by Dhul [email protected] 5 2003, 09:39 AM
http://www.outofservice.com/morality

--- G.
it asks a bunch of questions about "what the government should do". The test sucks because I have no idea what government it's talking about and the questiosn are too vague. Like:
Should teh government provide aid to developing countries?
Well.... most of the time, "aid" ends up in the hands of the currupt leaders, but I'm completely in favor of the much-needed aid for the millions of people living in poverty.

Dhul Fiqar
5th October 2003, 19:41
Yeah, I just posted that as a far far more detailed and scientific study on morality than this laughable little poorly spelled piece of pre-school crap. And yet it still sucks - showing us all exactly how much the original post sucked. A lot. ;)

--- G.

Goldfinger
5th October 2003, 19:42
http://www.outofservice.com/morality/resul...1&e=37&a=57&n=2 (http://www.outofservice.com/morality/results/?morality=80&social=79&political=86&o=96&c=1&e=37&a=57&n=2)

crazy comie
5th October 2003, 19:46
this is getting silly

Rastafari
5th October 2003, 20:05
Originally posted by Desert [email protected] 5 2003, 06:53 AM
The world is going down and you have to decide wich 6 people of the 9 you are going to take with you in a shelter. You can only take 6. You will have to vote and say why you chose certain people and didn't chose the others. And I would like to know if you want to have at the end of the vote the most chosen party wins or the most chosen people ?

Person:
a) a 16 year old pregnant female, with a low IQ who quited school
b) a 36 year old male cop, who was fired for exessive force
c) a 75 year old male priest
d) a 46 year old maleviolinist, that spent 7 years in jail because he dealed drugs
e) a 35 year old female doctor, that can't have children
f) a 20 year old black female protester, without any specific skils
g) a 25 year old gay architect
h) a 22 year old male law student *
i) a 21 year old female drug addict *

* If you chose one, you have to take the other one too, they don't want to be seperated
By your pro-life definition, wouldn't "A" count as two people?

Ex Nihilo
6th October 2003, 02:08
This is banned member Dark Capitalist.


Why are you bothering DC? You know good and well you were banned for Racist and Fascist posts. Simply using the other nick you created when the server crashed will not change anything. You are B-A-N-N-E-D.

Period.

RyeN
6th October 2003, 02:53
b) a 36 year old male cop, who was fired for exessive force
e) a 35 year old female doctor, that can't have children
f) a 20 year old black female protester, without any specific skils
g) a 25 year old gay architect
h) a 22 year old male law student *
i) a 21 year old female drug addict *

The only thing I realy based this on was who would probably be the tastiest people to eat. MMM people

Rastafari
6th October 2003, 03:38
best thing you've ever said comrade.

don't say it too loud though, the Stalinists will be recruiting you

Kapitan Andrey
6th October 2003, 09:26
A,B,E may be H,I.

...and alternative answer...

F) BRITNEY SPEARS!!! :wub:

He-he...

crazy comie
6th October 2003, 15:05
Originally posted by [email protected] 6 2003, 03:38 AM


don't say it too loud though, the Stalinists will be recruiting you
that is true

Desert Fox
8th October 2003, 14:36
A,B,E,H,I.

These are the most chosen results, but now you and your gf/bf/best friend/... should go in the shelter too and you have to skip 2 people, who would it be and why ? And why do you consider you and your gf/bf/best friend/... be more valuable than the people you want to skip ? ;)