Why do women have such an inferior victim complex?

[Gandhi_was_a_pedo]

Why...

do women not realise the value of equality through varying roles? Traditionally, women have been the child rearers whilst men have been the hunter/gatherers... without either, a society could not thrive. Why is such an appalling victim complex ingrained in them that they now see 'equality' as being exactly identical to men? And how are we supposed to provide them with demanded 'equality' when nature gives them different hormones, different bodies, and different purposes to us?

[ZeroNowhere]

I think that you are not going far enough with this. Why do women not simply reduce themselves to the level of reproduction machines and cease pretending to be human beings? Why is the liberal establishment so opposed to the idea of allowing men to reproduce asexually to make women superfluous altogether?

Look, trolling is not good etiquette. You are a guest, behave yourself.

[black magick hustla]

"nature" is the refuge of scoundrel

[∞]

Troll harder...

[Gandhi_was_a_pedo]

I'm not a guest, i'm a member of this forum, just like you.

Also, I'm not trolling, i'm expressing an opinion. Trolling would be saying 'why are women inferior to men'? I'm not saying that. I'm saying that traditional roles exist for a reason and that they are both equal although they aren't exactly the same. Is calling everybody who expressed an opinion deviating from your own a 'troll' a custom here? :(

Also, I don't know where you're getting the 'reproduction machines' from, it seems you're employing a strawman argument :(. Obviously there is more to a traditional child-rearer role than simply crapping out little babies every now and then. They raise the child and ensure that the familial and home environment is a suitable one for the upbringing of a child and the establishment of a good nuclear family.

[∞]

Sorry, but with a name like "Gandhi was a pedo", I have a tough time taking you seriously.

P.S. Stop trying to make us feel bad for you by using smilies.

[ZeroNowhere]

Is calling everybody who expressed an opinion deviating from your own a 'troll' a custom here?Yes, we are very paranoid about these things. That is why the purges happened.

[Gandhi_was_a_pedo]

@Blackened Marxist

Gandhi married and slept with a 13 year old girl. Are you being serious right now?

Also, with the word 'Marxist' in your name, I find it difficult to take you seriously.

[Rusty Shackleford]

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[∞]

@Blackened Marxist

Gandhi married and slept with a 13 year old girl. Are you being serious right now?]

Okay, still a silly name....thats like me setting my name as "Darwin married and slept with his cousin".


Also, with the word 'Marxist' in your name, I find it difficult to take you seriously.

Why?

[ZeroNowhere]

P.S. Stop trying to make us feel bad for you by using smilies.An interesting proposition. :) Don't you think that women do that kind of thing in real life often too, though? ;)

[Rusty Shackleford]

OK serious response.

"Traditionally" or rather historically, women have actually been the leaders of society. in primitive communal societies women were the head of the communal homes which meant men had to respect them and men were subject to the will of women.

At the same time though, there was a community of sexual partners. Men took women as they saw fit but women had the power to unilaterally break a sexual relationship.

When productive forces advanced, property relations developed. Inheritance was along the mothers line. Men had no right to inheritance. But, it was usurped over centuries in certain societies where then men became the line of inheritance. Monogamy was pushed and women became property of men.

Ill quote engels on the family (http://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1884/origin-family/ch02c.htm)(Ch. 3. Pt. 3: The Pairing Family, 12 paragraphs from the bottom)

Its essential features are the incorporation of unfree persons and paternal power; hence the perfect type of this from of family is the Roman. The original meaning of the word 'family' (familia) is not that compound of sentimentality and domestic strife which forms the ideal of the present-day philistine; among the Romans it did not at first even refer to the married pair and their children but only to the slaves. Faumulus means domestic slave, and familia is the total number of slaves belonging to one man. As late as the time of Gaius, the familia, id est patrimonium(family, that is, the patrimony, the inheritance) was bequeathed by will. The term was invented by the Romans to denote a new social organism whos head ruled over wife and children and a number of slaves, and was invested under Roman paternal power with rights of life and death over them all.


This is the source of womens oppression alond with economic ostracizing of women.

when women lost the power they had in previous levels of social development, they became domestic slaves of men.

Nowadays, women may partake in social production instead of household maintainence but in the US, they make $0.80 on the dollar on average that a man earns. Also, without adequate child day care and so on, women are often forced to become home makers as well as workers. sure men on occasion act as home maker but there is a large stigma place on men for it because its "womens work."

There is sexual dimorphism that does indeed make women physically different than men, but real equality really comes out of economic equality. Women dont strive to be "like" men. Along with economic equality, there must be a social responsibility for raising children when needed and men must take equal time to raise a child as a women (assuming he is the genetic father or adoptee father and assuming it is a monogamous "household family" independent of social child raising, like infancy) and men should be encouraged to work in areas of child development as well.

Women are just as capable of being good engineers, scientists, educators, industrial workers, sales persons, and emergency workers as men.

There is a lot to the subject, but in essence this "inferoirity complex" as you call it is induced by patriarchal society. Im not calling for matriarchal society either. Im calling for complete sex and gender economic and social equality.

[Gandhi_was_a_pedo]

OK serious response.

Nowadays, women may partake in social production instead of household maintainence but in the US, they make $0.80 on the dollar on average that a man earns. Also, without adequate child day care and so on, women are often forced to become home makers as well as workers. sure men on occasion act as home maker but there is a large stigma place on men for it because its "womens work."



Thanks for quoting any kind of reasonable source that supports your argument (which is wrong, by the way... maybe that's why you couldn't find a source).

(I am not allowed to post links but if you google these quotes you will find the origin.... on msn.com)

..."But one question haunted me through the years: If an employer has to pay a man one dollar for the same work a woman would do for 59 cents, why would anyone hire a man? If women do produce more for less, I thought, women who own their own businesses should earn more than male business owners. So I checked. I found that women entrepreneurs earn 50% less than their male counterparts.

It's not that women are less effective or productive — they just have different priorities. A 2001 survey of business owners with MBAs conducted by the Rochester Institute of Technology found that money was the primary motivator for only 29% of women, versus 76% of men. Women prioritized flexibility, fulfillment, autonomy and safety.

After more than a decade of research for my book, Why Men Earn More, I discovered that men and women make 25 work-life choices that actually create a wage gap. Men make decisions that result in their making more money. On the other hand, women make decisions that earn them better lives (e.g., more family and friend time).

But what happens when women make the same lucrative decisions typically made by men? The good news — for women, at least: Women actually earn more. For example, when a male and a female civil engineer both stay with their respective companies for ten years, travel and relocate equally and take the same career risks, the woman ends up making more. And among workers who have never been married and never had children, women earn 117% of what men do. (This factors in education, hours worked and age.)"


Did you get that?


On average, hour for hour, women earn 117% of what men do.
Does this seem just to you?


I'm assuming your '80%' argument comes from a complete look at a women's career... and considering year-long maternity leaves, a very inflated sense of entitlement that basically says "WOO LOOK AT ME, I'M WORKING AND I'M A WOMAN! PAY ME EXTRA FOR SMASHING THE EVIL PATRIACHY THAT IS OPPRESSING ME!!!!!" and the fact that most of them actually do less work than men, I have no idea why you support this.


Do you support equality in the ratio of female/male garbagemen? Homeless? Imprisoned? Did you know that in 90% of seperations, women get custody of the children? Did you know that 70% of divorces are initiated by women? Did you know that 85% of child support is payed by men? Did you know that women can (and do) trap men in relationships where they are raising a child that they think is theirs but is biologically another person's... and the court still makes them pay child support when she divorces him?


If you don't want an exact 50/50 ratio on all these issues and more, then you don't support equality. You support the PRIORITIZATION of women over men, which is not only sexist in itself, but illegal discrimination against men on the basis of their gender.


"When we focus our binoculars only on discrimination, we miss opportunities available to women, such as the 80 fields (e.g., financial analysis, radiation therapy, statistics and most engineering fields) in which women now earn more than men."


Why not a 50/50 ratio in these fields?


Simply by holding these hypocritical and inane views you discredit your own opinion.

[RGacky3]

do women not realise the value of equality through varying roles? Traditionally, women have been the child rearers whilst men have been the hunter/gatherers... without either, a society could not thrive. Why is such an appalling victim complex ingrained in them that they now see 'equality' as being exactly identical to men? And how are we supposed to provide them with demanded 'equality' when nature gives them different hormones, different bodies, and different purposes to us?

I don't know any woman that wants to be identical to man, or that anyone have disputes that women ahve different hormones and different bodies.

As for different purposes, is'nt that up to the individual to decide? Why should you say what "purpose" women have? In the past it was black peoples "purpose" to be slaves, so what?

Plus why do you care, if you want a woman that just wants to be wify, go find one, but don't ***** about other women not wanting to submit to your patriachal world view.

WHy do you have such an inferiority complex to where you are annoyed about women doing their own thing and defining their own future? Does it effect your value as a man?

[Gandhi_was_a_pedo]

I don't know any woman that wants to be identical to man, or that anyone have disputes that women ahve different hormones and different bodies.

I'm going to go ahead and assume that you don't know any women period.


As for different purposes, is'nt that up to the individual to decide? Why should you say what "purpose" women have? In the past it was black peoples "purpose" to be slaves, so what?

Blacks enslaved each other a lot more than whites enslaves them. Also, considering that most races in human existence have been enslaved, I'm curious as to why you're singling out blacks. Also, since the descendents of slaves in modern America have been freed and now enjoy a wealth of free money, entitlements, and a liberal dose of white guilt, on top of a life that is far, far, FAR superior to any of the blacks 'lucky' enough not to be enslaved, and are still starving in Africa, I'd say that they were the lucky ones.


Plus why do you care, if you want a woman that just wants to be wify, go find one, but don't ***** about other women not wanting to submit to your patriachal world view.

I care because there is an extreme amount of propaganda and pressure on young & upcoming Western women to go out and whore around, disregard morality and values, then latch on to a rich man once they turn 35, continue whoring around, then divorce him, taking most of his money & worldly posessions, and on top of that deny him access to his kids, then have the nerve to wonder why they become little gangsters.


WHy do you have such an inferiority complex to where you are annoyed about women doing their own thing and defining their own future? Does it effect your value as a man?

I do not have an inferiority complex as i am not consistently complaining about being the victim of everything. I'm not here complaining about being oppressed by God because he didn't determine me to be born into a billionaire family. Why do you bother arguing about this stuff when you can't even define or understand half the terms I'm using?

[Rusty Shackleford]

Thanks for quoting any kind of reasonable source that supports your argument (which is wrong, by the way... maybe that's why you couldn't find a source).

(I am not allowed to post links but if you google these quotes you will find the origin.... on msn.com)

..."But one question haunted me through the years: If an employer has to pay a man one dollar for the same work a woman would do for 59 cents, why would anyone hire a man? If women do produce more for less, I thought, women who own their own businesses should earn more than male business owners. So I checked. I found that women entrepreneurs earn 50% less than their male counterparts.

It's not that women are less effective or productive — they just have different priorities. A 2001 survey of business owners with MBAs conducted by the Rochester Institute of Technology found that money was the primary motivator for only 29% of women, versus 76% of men. Women prioritized flexibility, fulfillment, autonomy and safety.

After more than a decade of research for my book, Why Men Earn More, I discovered that men and women make 25 work-life choices that actually create a wage gap. Men make decisions that result in their making more money. On the other hand, women make decisions that earn them better lives (e.g., more family and friend time).

But what happens when women make the same lucrative decisions typically made by men? The good news — for women, at least: Women actually earn more. For example, when a male and a female civil engineer both stay with their respective companies for ten years, travel and relocate equally and take the same career risks, the woman ends up making more. And among workers who have never been married and never had children, women earn 117% of what men do. (This factors in education, hours worked and age.)"


Did you get that?


On average, hour for hour, women earn 117% of what men do.
Does this seem just to you?


I'm assuming your '80%' argument comes from a complete look at a women's career... and considering year-long maternity leaves, a very inflated sense of entitlement that basically says "WOO LOOK AT ME, I'M WORKING AND I'M A WOMAN! PAY ME EXTRA FOR SMASHING THE EVIL PATRIACHY THAT IS OPPRESSING ME!!!!!" and the fact that most of them actually do less work than men, I have no idea why you support this.


Do you support equality in the ratio of female/male garbagemen? Homeless? Imprisoned? Did you know that in 90% of seperations, women get custody of the children? Did you know that 70% of divorces are initiated by women? Did you know that 85% of child support is payed by men? Did you know that women can (and do) trap men in relationships where they are raising a child that they think is theirs but is biologically another person's... and the court still makes them pay child support when she divorces him?


If you don't want an exact 50/50 ratio on all these issues and more, then you don't support equality. You support the PRIORITIZATION of women over men, which is not only sexist in itself, but illegal discrimination against men on the basis of their gender.


"When we focus our binoculars only on discrimination, we miss opportunities available to women, such as the 80 fields (e.g., financial analysis, radiation therapy, statistics and most engineering fields) in which women now earn more than men."


Why not a 50/50 ratio in these fields?


Simply by holding these hypocritical and inane views you discredit your own opinion.

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SOURCE (http://www.catalyst.org/publication/217/womens-earnings-and-income)


so maybe i was wrong about the exact numbers but there you go. in all the western countries even the "socialist" scandinavian countries, women still suffer from an income disparity.

Also, here:http://images.sodahead.com/polls/001223395/German_garden_gnome_xlarge.png

[Gandhi_was_a_pedo]

did you just disregard the entirety of my post except for asking for sources?

Nevermind that the rest of my post is easily enough to discredit your shit little graphs.

[Rusty Shackleford]

did you just disregard the entirety of my post except for asking for sources?

Nevermind that the rest of my post is easily enough to discredit your shit little graphs.

your last post:


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[hatzel]

Nevermind that the rest of my post is easily enough to discredit your shit little graphs.

Graphs and statistics and the like are generally considered superior to some quote by some unknown guy. That quote isn't a source. You have to cite his sources for it to be a source...

http://www.socuteanimals.com/images/photos/3856932_mid.jpeg

This is both a cute animal and a gnome. Double points! :lol:

[Gandhi_was_a_pedo]

yeah, i used the phrase 'did you know' 4 times.

Your refusal to consider my argument, and inability to even attempt refuting it, is clearly evidence that you cannot.

I'm disappointed, revleft. I thought i'd get a little intelligent discussion here, instead of a bunch of isolated children getting insulted at somebody having views that oppose their own.

[Gandhi_was_a_pedo]

Graphs and statistics and the like are generally considered superior to some quote by some unknown guy. That quote isn't a source. You have to cite his sources for it to be a source...


Which i would do if this shitty website allowed me to link.

By the way, my supposed 'unknown' source:

"Dr. Warren Farrell is the author of Why Men Earn More: The Startling Truth Behind the Pay Gap — and What Women Can Do About It and the international best-sellers Why Men Are The Way They Are and The Myth of Male Power. Dr. Farrell is the only man in the U.S. ever elected three times to the board of directors for the National Organization for Women in New York City."

[hatzel]

I'm disappointed, revleft. I thought i'd get a little intelligent discussion here, instead of a bunch of isolated children getting insulted at somebody having views that oppose their own.

Yeah, we're bored of you people now, after...what, at least half a dozen already? So you just get gnomes instead:

http://www.beckstextbooks.com/store14/StoreImages/182-611711-1.JPG

[Sperm-Doll Setsuna]

yeah, i used the phrase 'did you know' 4 times.

Your refusal to consider my argument, and inability to even attempt refuting it, is clearly evidence that you cannot.

I'm disappointed, revleft. I thought i'd get a little intelligent discussion here, instead of a bunch of isolated children getting insulted at somebody having views that oppose their own.

Good, run along now, go back to the cave you came from.

[PhoenixAsh]

You are asking the wrong questions...

The question is why doesn't society allow women the same opportunities under the same conditions as men? Why do women need to conform to their gender roles? Why is it that society does not award women the same status as men?

THOSE are the real questions.

Your question is complete bullshit. Because if you have any sense you see that women are treated as objects and as inferior.

[Manic Impressive]

http://www.socuteanimals.com/images/photos/3856932_mid.jpeg

looks like a KKK dog :blink:

[ZeroNowhere]

Look, trolling is not good etiquette. You are a guest, behave yourself.
Feeding them is not necessarily a wise diplomatic move either.

[hatzel]

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[Gandhi_was_a_pedo]

You are asking the wrong questions...

The question is why doesn't society allow women the same opportunities under the same conditions as men? Why do women need to conform to their gender roles? Why is it that society does not award women the same status as men?

THOSE are the real questions.

Your question is complete bullshit. Because if you have any sense you see that women are treated as objects and as inferior.

Women do have the same opportunities as men. In Ivy League colleges at this very instant, 55% of the students are women. Women obviously do not need to conform to their gender roles... the amount of female politicians elected into public office is clear evidence of this. Julia Gillard is an athiest in a de-facto relationship with no children, how come she is PM of Australia if she's being oppressed so much by being a woman? Furthermore, society does not award anybody 'status' except those born into positions of power. An example of this is the Queen - she is a woman and followed as closely as any King. People need to work to achieve their own status. My previous post, which addressed the male vs female attitude towards work, explains why men have so much more status than woman very efficiently, if you'd bother reading it.

Well, i just answered your REAL questions.


Because if you have any sense you see that women are treated as objects and as inferior

As i said, why is any role 'inferior' to another? Can you explain to me why everything that a woman lusts after (makeup, jewellery, expensive clothes, shoes, salon treatments, handbags etc) are purely objects designed to increase their beauty... which is (obviously)... to gain the attention of and attract better men.

[Rusty Shackleford]

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what a terrible taste in music you have. i dont see how this is at all relevant.



ill try to get this back on topic


After more than a decade of research for my book, Why Men Earn More, I discovered that men and women make 25 work-life choices that actually create a wage gap. Men make decisions that result in their making more money. On the other hand, women make decisions that earn them better lives (e.g., more family and friend time)."Why Men Earn More" puts the blame solely on women. Women are responsible for 25 life choices that cause them to earn less?
And also that their decisions, alternatively, give them better lives including more family and friend time?

so basically, for a woman to have a good life, she should simply be a socialite.


On average, hour for hour, women earn 117% of what men do.
Does this seem just to you?
prove it.


I'm assuming your '80%' argument comes from a complete look at a women's career... and considering year-long maternity leaves, a very inflated sense of entitlement that basically says "WOO LOOK AT ME, I'M WORKING AND I'M A WOMAN! PAY ME EXTRA FOR SMASHING THE EVIL PATRIACHY THAT IS OPPRESSING ME!!!!!" and the fact that most of them actually do less work than men, I have no idea why you support this.In some countries, Men have paternity leave that lasts just as long as maternity leave yet they STILL make more than women.

Also, how do you put a value on self worth? and how do you speka for women since im assuming you are a basement dwelling misogynistic neckbeard. i have no idea why support this



Do you support equality in the ratio of female/male garbagemen? Homeless? Imprisoned? Did you know that in 90% of seperations, women get custody of the children? Did you know that 70% of divorces are initiated by women? Did you know that 85% of child support is payed by men? Did you know that women can (and do) trap men in relationships where they are raising a child that they think is theirs but is biologically another person's... and the court still makes them pay child support when she divorces him?"did you know did you know did you know did you know" So what if divorces are initiated by women. it is their right as well as a mans right to divorce. the economic impact though is something that should be completely removed though.

Also, the human species isnt exactly 50% men 50% women. what i am calling for is equitable and proportional representation of female and male labor.



If you don't want an exact 50/50 ratio on all these issues and more, then you don't support equality. You support the PRIORITIZATION of women over men, which is not only sexist in itself, but illegal discrimination against men on the basis of their gender.
No i dont. also man isnt a gender, it is a sex.

I support the raising of female economic power to the level of a man on a one to one basis in equal circumstances. I dont hate men, i am a man, im also a feminist. feminism doesnt mean woman over man imo, it means woman and man in equal representation economically and politically.

also heres some better music

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[ZeroNowhere]

Did you know that 70% of divorces are initiated by women?I don't blame them.

On a more serious note, this is probably because women are naturally better at taking the initiative and are more willing than men to take a stand against a sea of troubles and by opposing end it. As a result, you are wholly correct in arguing that it is foolish to attempt to make women equal to men, as they should rather be put into positions of power over men due to greater willingness to do what is moral and necessary. This is a very reasonable argument, and due to your making it I am now fully convinced that you are not in fact a troll.

[PhoenixAsh]

Women do have the same opportunities as men. In Ivy League colleges at this very instant, 55% of the students are women. Women obviously do not need to conform to their gender roles... the amount of female politicians elected into public office is clear evidence of this. Julia Gillard is an athiest in a de-facto relationship with no children, how come she is PM of Australia if she's being oppressed so much by being a woman? Furthermore, society does not award anybody 'status' except those born into positions of power. An example of this is the Queen - she is a woman and followed as closely as any King. People need to work to achieve their own status. My previous post, which addressed the male vs female attitude towards work, explains why men have so much more status than woman very efficiently, if you'd bother reading it.

Well, i just answered your REAL questions.

With complete bullshit...yes. Your a sexist.

So how many women are currently PM?
Is the balance between elected officials equal?
Do women earn the same for the same job?
Do women have the same legal status as men?
How many women are victims of rape?
How many women are victim of battering?
What are the dress codes for women?
Who is the one who is obligated by law to take the children in case of divorce?...and thereby being less able to find work.
Is there open and unlimited right to their own body?


Your post about priorities is complete and utter bullcrap. Work is work and the same work should be awarded the same....this has NOTHING to do with priorities it has to do with the value equated to the work when done by a woman and work done by a man. If you try to drag in excuses in the form of surveys you are ignoring the fact that this has NOTHING to do with the nature of the job....which is why you get a salary.


O...and FYI...you are now discussing the topic with somebody who worked for many years in higher management of one of the top corporations in the Netherlands. So I know the studies you are citing, I know how the top looks at women and I know exactly what the sentiments are about women. So I can tell you what you are saying with 100% certainty is bull.


As i said, why is any role 'inferior' to another? Can you explain to me why everything that a woman lusts after (makeup, jewellery, expensive clothes, shoes, salon treatments, handbags etc) are purely objects designed to increase their beauty... which is (obviously)... to gain the attention of and attract better men.And that is exactly what is wrong and why women are made inferior because people like you generalize and reduce women to creatures who lure and seduce men. Which is by your own words here...their nature....apparantly

Now answer you own question...what constitutes a better man?

[Gandhi_was_a_pedo]

"Why Men Earn More" puts the blame solely on women. Women are responsible for 25 life choices that cause them to earn less?
And also that their decisions, alternatively, give them better lives including more family and friend time?[QUOTE]

SO now you are claiming that these women are not responsible for the choices they make? The number of women in high positions (which is above zero... the only thing that matters) proves that if a woman makes the same choices as a man she has the same chance at the same road to success as a man.

[QUOTE]so basically, for a woman to have a good life, she should simply be a socialite.

strawman


In some countries, Men have paternity leave that lasts just as long as maternity leave yet they STILL make more than women.

Got a source on that?


Also, how do you put a value on self worth? and how do you speka for women since im assuming you are a basement dwelling misogynistic neckbeard. i have no idea why support this

resorting to ad hominems. Also i'm fairly sure i've nailed more women than you considering you have thousands of posts on a circlejerking ignorant forum of retarded lefties.


"did you know did you know did you know did you know" So what if divorces are initiated by women. it is their right as well as a mans right to divorce. the economic impact though is something that should be completely removed though.

Do you think that if a woman cheats on a man, then they get divorced (no matter who initiates) that she should be paid settlements?


Also, the human species isnt exactly 50% men 50% women. what i am calling for is equitable and proportional representation of female and male labor.

doesn't seem like it, tbh. Loving your ignorant, arrogant hypocrisy.



No i dont. also man isnt a gender, it is a sex.

lol nitpicking much? Sick, infallible arguments you got there brah.

[Os Cangaceiros]

I don't know why the admins don't just ban these stormfront trolls as they pop up, like a game of virtual whack-a-mole.

Humoring them is worse than wasting one's time, IMO.

[hatzel]

resorting to ad hominems. Also i'm fairly sure i've nailed more women than you considering you have thousands of posts on a circlejerking ignorant forum of retarded lefties.

Thanks for warning us you were resorting to ad hominems, bro...

Also well done for 'nailing' tonnes of women. You must be very proud :)

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[Rusty Shackleford]

resorting to ad hominems. Also i'm fairly sure i've nailed more women than you considering you have thousands of posts on a circlejerking ignorant forum of retarded lefties.


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[Gandhi_was_a_pedo]

With complete bullshit...yes. Your a sexist.

I'm basing all my evidence off facts and sources. Your arguments relies heavily on ad hominems and strawmen.


So how many women are currently PM?
Is the balance between elected officials equal?
Do women earn the same for the same job?
Do women have the same legal status as men?
How many women are victims of rape?
How many women are victim of battering?
What are the dress codes for women?
Who is the one who is obligated by law to take the children in case of divorce?...and thereby being less able to find work.
Is there open and unlimited right to their own body?

1 - you can google that
2 - why should the public elect an official that will represent them more poorly based on the fact that they have a vagina? The best rep gets the job
3 - women earn more, hour per hour
4 - they have enhanced legal status, given that they can cry 'rape' or 'domestic abuse' any time they please, get a man incarcerated and destroy his reputation, and have no legal repercussions even when it is proved (and/or they admit) they were lying
5 - More than men, but that is because of biology and criminals. Also, up to half of all accused rapes are false claims (google it, i'm not allowed to link to sources)
6 - Less than men, i believe. I saw a domestic violence chart (which i cannot link to because of this retarded site) that demonstrates that most reciprocal and non-reciprocal domestic abuse states are initiated by women. Do you think it is a double standard that a man can be imprisoned for slapping a woman, but if a woman slaps a man it is regarded as comical and if he complains he is told to 'man up' and humiliated?
7 - Probably a lot better as they do not need to wear thousand-dollar business suits with ties all day
8 - I think you'll find that most parents WANT to take care of their children. (obviously you aren't a parent, and your parents hate you... wonder why) Refer to my previous post
9 - what the fuck. Did you seriously just ask that as a real question?



Your post about priorities is complete and utter bullcrap. Work is work and the same work should be awarded the same....this has NOTHING to do with priorities it has to do with the value equated to the work when done by a woman and work done by a man. If you try to drag in excuses in the form of surveys you are ignoring the fact that this has NOTHING to do with the nature of the job....which is why you get a salary.

Men do more work. Men are willing to go to further lengths to get the job done. I have covered this time and time again.



O...and FYI...you are now discussing the topic with somebody who worked for many years in higher management of one of the top corporations in the Netherlands. So I know the studies you are citing, I know how the top looks at women and I know exactly what the sentiments are about women. So I can tell you what you are saying with 100% certainty is bull.

Oh, really? Oh, wow. I retract all my statements and kneel at your feet.

[QUOT]And that is exactly what is wrong and why women are made inferior because people like you generalize and reduce women to creatures who lure and seduce men. Which is by your own words here...their nature. [/QUOTE]

Lol. some women are people who lure and seduce men. Where do you think the concept of a 'trophy wife' came from?


Now answer you own question...what constitutes a better man?

In the context with which i was using it, it means more attractive and/or more wealthy.

[Gandhi_was_a_pedo]

stormfront trolls

I haven't said a single word about race. You people are pathetic.

[Queercommie Girl]

resorting to ad hominems. Also i'm fairly sure i've nailed more women than you considering you have thousands of posts on a circlejerking ignorant forum of retarded lefties.


What a fucking ignorant, insensitive and reactionary thing to say. Get the fuck out of this forum, right-wing scum.

[Rusty Shackleford]

I haven't said a single word about race. You people are pathetic.
4chan troll.


http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_0QorRGfvYQM/TCPwHRtnyZI/AAAAAAAAASQ/f5n8J5pevJs/s1600/medium_timothy_garden_gnome.jpg

[hatzel]

Words and noise and stuff

http://images.b105.com.au/2009/01/29/117458/400x248-Beached-As-Bro.jpg

[Gandhi_was_a_pedo]

4chan troll.




wrong again. I don't browse 4chan because i'm not a retarded teenager that enjoy the same stale, unfunny shit being blasted in my face over and over and over again.

I guess, in that regard, 4chan is exactly like this site

[ZeroNowhere]

also heres some better music

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This thread is doomed.

So why not.
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[Gandhi_was_a_pedo]

You follow this Talmud scripture?


Erubin 21b. Whosoever disobeys the rabbis deserves death and will be punished by being boiled in hot excrement in hell.
Moed Kattan 17a . If a Jew is tempted to do evil he should go to a city where he is not known and do the evil there.
Non-Jews are Not Human Baba Mezia 114a-114b. Only Jews are human ("Only ye are designated men").
Also see Kerithoth 6b under the sub-head, "Oil of Anointing" and Berakoth 58a in which Gentile women are designated animals ("she-asses").
Jews are Divine, Sanhedrin 58b. If a heathen (Gentile) hits a Jew, the Gentile must be killed. Hitting a Jew is the same as hitting God.
O.K. to Cheat Non-Jews, Sanhedrin 57a . A Jew need not pay a Gentile ("Cuthean") the wages owed him for work.
Jews Have Superior Legal Status, Baba Kamma 37b. "If an ox of an Israelite gores an ox of a Canaanite there is no liability; but if an ox of a Canaanite gores an ox of an Israelite...the payment is to be in full."
Jews May Steal from Non-Jews, Baba Mezia 24a . If a Jew finds an object lost by a Gentile ("heathen") it does not have to be returned. (Affirmed also in Baba Kamma 113b).
Sanhedrin 76a . God will not spare a Jew who "marries his daughter to an old man or takes a wife for his infant son or returns a lost article to a Cuthean..."
Jews May Rob and Kill Non-Jews, Sanhedrin 57a . When a Jew murders a Gentile ("Cuthean"), there will be no death penalty. What a Jew steals from a Gentile he may keep.
Baba Kamma 37b. Gentiles are outside the protection of the law and God has "exposed their money to Israel."
Jews May Lie to Non-Jews, Baba Kamma 113a. Jews may use lies ("subterfuges") to circumvent a Gentile.
Non-Jewish Children Sub-Human, Yebamoth 98a. All Gentile children are animals.
Abodah Zarah 36b . Gentile girls are in a state of niddah (filth) from birth.
Abodah Zarah 22a-22b . Gentiles prefer sex with cows.
Abodah Zarah 67b . "The vessels of Gentiles, do they not impart a worsened flavor to the food cooked in them?"
Insults Against Mary, Sanhedrin 106a . Says Jesus' mother was a whore: "She who was the descendant of princes and governors played the harlot with carpenters." Also in footnote #2 to Shabbath 104b it is stated that in the "uncensored" text of the Talmud it is written that Jesus mother, "Miriam the hairdresser," had sex with many men.
Gloats over Christ Dying Young, A passage from Sanhedrin 106 gloats over the early age at which Jesus died: "Hast thou heard how old Balaam (Jesus) was?--He replied: It is not actually stated but since it is written, Bloody and deceitful men shall not live out half their days it follows that he was thirty-three or thirty-four years old."
Says Jesus was a Sorcerer, Sanhedrin 43a . Says Jesus ("Yeshu" and in footnote #6, Yeshu "the Nazarene") was executed because he practiced sorcery.
Horrible Blasphemy of Jesus, Gittin 57a . Says Jesus ( see footnote #4) is being boiled in "hot excrement."
Sanhedrin 43a . Jesus deserved execution: "On the eve of the Passover, Yeshu was hanged...Do you suppose that he was one for whom a defense could be made? Was he not a Mesith (enticer)?"
Attacks Christians and their Books, Rosh Hashanah 17a . Christians ("minim") and others who reject the Talmud will go to hell and be punished there for all generations (see footnote #11 for the definition of minim).
Sanhedrin 90a.Those who read the New Testament ("uncanonical books," see footnote #9) will have no portion in the world to come.
Shabbath 116a (p. 569). Jews must destroy the books of the Christians, i.e. the New Testament. See footnote #6.
Israel Shahak reports that the Zionists burned hundreds of New Testament books in Occupied Palestine on March 23, 1980 (cf. Jewish History, Jewish Religion, p. 21).
Sick and Insane Teachings, Gittin 69a . To heal his flesh a Jew should take dust that lies within the shadow of an outdoor toilet, mix it with honey and eat it.
Shabbath 41a. The law regulating the rule for how to urinate in a holy way is given.
Yebamoth 63a. States that Adam had sexual intercourse with all the animals in the Garden of Eden.
Yebamoth 63a. Declares that agriculture is the lowest of occupations.
Sanhedrin 55b . A Jew may marry a three year old girl (specifically, three years "and a day" old).
Sanhedrin 54b . A Jew may have sex with a child as long as the child is less than nine years old.
Kethuboth 11b . "When a grown-up man has intercourse with a little girl it is nothing."
Yebamoth 59b . A woman who had intercourse with a beast is eligible to marry a Jewish priest. A woman who has sex with a demon is also eligible to marry a Jewish priest.
Abodah Zarah 17a. States that there is not a whore in the world that Rabbi Eleazar has not had sex with.
Hagigah 27a . States that no rabbi can ever go to hell.
Baba Mezia 59b. A rabbi debates God and defeats Him. God admits the rabbi won the debate.
Gittin 70a . The Rabbis taught: "On coming from a privy (outdoor toilet) a man should not have sexual intercourse till he has waited long enough to walk half a mile, because the demon of the privy is with him for that time; if he does, his children will be epileptic."
Sanhedrin 59a: "Murdering Goyim is like killing a wild animal."
Abodah Zara 26b: "Even the best of the Gentiles should be killed."
Sanhedrin 59a: "A Goy (Gentile) who pries into the law (Talmud) is guilty of death."
Libbre David 37: "To communicate anything with a Goy about our religious relations would be equal to the killing of all Jews, for if the Goyim knew what we teach about them, they would kill us openly.
" Yebhamoth 11b: "Sexual intercourse with a little girl is permitted if she is of three years of age.
" Sanhedrin 105ab: "Jesus fornicated with his jackass.
" Gittin 57a: "Jesus is in hell and is being punished by being boiled in semen. Christians are boiled in dung.
" Schabouth Hag. 6b: "Jews may swear falsely by use of subterfuge wording.
" Zohar 1,160a: "Jews must always try to deceive Christians." Hilkkoth Akum Z1: "Do not save Goyim (Gentiles) in danger of death.
" Choschen Ham 388, 15: "If it be proven that someone has given the money of israelites to the Goyim, a way must be found after prudent consideration to wipe him off the face of this earth."
Choschen Ham 266, 1: "A Jew may keep anything he finds which belongs to the Akum (Gentile). For he who returns lost property (to Gentiles) sins against the law by increasing the power of the transgressors of the law. It is praiseworthy, however, to return lost property if it is done to honor the name of God, namely if by so doing Christians will praise the Jews and look upon them as honorable people."

[Rusty Shackleford]

This thread is doomed.

So why not.


ywQ620PLZKo

this is now a doom metal thread

[hatzel]

wrong again. I don't browse 4chan because i'm not a retarded teenager that enjoy the same stale, unfunny shit being blasted in my face over and over and over again.

I guess, in that regard, 4chan is exactly like this site

Then why are you browsing this site, bro?

http://img.ly/system/uploads/000/100/231/large_image.jpg?1264705696


You follow this Talmud scripture?

Yup. Of course. Every word. Oh, and don't just copy-paste stuff directly from anti-semitic websites, it's just not kosher...:rolleyes:

[Gandhi_was_a_pedo]

Then why are you browsing this site, bro?



I came to see if there was any any intelligent debate to be had.

Obviously i was wrong. There's only a bunch of sun-starved virgins sticking their fingers in their ears and yelling 'LALALALLALALLALALLALALALLALALLALALALLALALLLALALLA I CAN'T HEAR YOU LALALALLALALLALALLALALLALALA'

[Rusty Shackleford]

I came to see if there was any any intelligent debate to be had.

Obviously i was wrong. There's only a bunch of sun-starved virgins sticking their fingers in their ears and yelling 'LALALALLALALLALALLALALALLALALLALALALLALALLLALALLA I CAN'T HEAR YOU LALALALLALALLALALLALALLALALA'
you came here for intelligent debate by starting off with misogyny.


intelligent.

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[Gandhi_was_a_pedo]

Yup. Of course. Every word. Oh, and don't just copy-paste stuff directly from anti-semitic websites, it's just not kosher...:rolleyes:

How is it an anti-semetic website, if all it is, is quoting jewish scripture?

That's like saying a website that details a battle that the nazis won in WW2 (eg, the Battle of the Border) is neo-nazi.

[ZeroNowhere]

resorting to ad hominems. Also i'm fairly sure i've nailed more women than you considering you have thousands of posts on a circlejerking ignorant forum of retarded lefties.You may have nailed many women, but have you ever allowed a woman to rule over and dominate you? After all, Christs may come and Christs may go, but Caesar is forever.


this is now a doom metal threadI concur with this suggestion.

[PhoenixAsh]

I'm basing all my evidence off facts and sources. Your arguments relies heavily on ad hominems and strawmen.
No...you are not...you use some facts to support your own theory...which is not actually supported by the facts becaue your facts do not belong to your theory.




1 - you can google that
I actually do not need to google anything...because I know the answers to all these questions.



2 - why should the public elect an official that will represent them more poorly based on the fact that they have a vagina? The best rep gets the jobTHere you go...you are a mysogenist.



3 - women earn more, hour per hourNo..they do not.



4 - they have enhanced legal status, given that they can cry 'rape' or 'domestic abuse' any time they please, get a man incarcerated and destroy his reputation, and have no legal repercussions even when it is proved (and/or they admit) they were lyingThere you go then...you are a mysogenist



5 - More than men, but that is because of biology and criminals. Also, up to half of all accused rapes are false claims (google it, i'm not allowed to link to sources)No..they are not. The highest estimate of false claims is about 25%. I studied law....of which 65% are made by mistaken identity and NOT because the claim was false and there was no rape.

Sorry bro...but you obviously have no idea what yo are talking about....or better...you know exactly what you are talking about because you need false evidence to back up your mysogenist claim.

what happened? A girl reject you?



6 - Less than men, i believe. I saw a domestic violence chart (which i cannot link to because of this retarded site) that demonstrates that most reciprocal and non-reciprocal domestic abuse states are initiated by women. Do you think it is a double standard that a man can be imprisoned for slapping a woman, but if a woman slaps a man it is regarded as comical and if he complains he is told to 'man up' and humiliated?Actually 2 in 10 men are abused. Of which a large part by other men. 1 in 4 women is abused.....mostly by men.

Sorry bro...I was one of the 2 in 10. So again...your facts to do not match reality.



7 - Probably a lot better as they do not need to wear thousand-dollar business suits with ties all dayNo instead they need to wear skirts. Any idea what a female costume costs?



8 - I think you'll find that most parents WANT to take care of their children. (obviously you aren't a parent, and your parents hate you... wonder why) Refer to my previous postWomen are legally obliged to be primary care giver. Men are not. Your answer doesn't answer the question.



9 - what the fuck. Did you seriously just ask that as a real question?
Yes..because it is a real issue. which you would have known if you had any sense. But you clearly have not.



Men do more work. Men are willing to go to further lengths to get the job done. I have covered this time and time again.No...you haven't.




Oh, really? Oh, wow. I retract all my statements and kneel at your feet.
I would stay well away from my feet if I were you....I sometimes have sudden leg spasms




Lol. some women are people who lure and seduce men. Where do you think the concept of a 'trophy wife' came from?


SOME...which is completely different from the A you used earlier.



In the context with which i was using it, it means more attractive and/or more wealthy.And they are more wealthy because:

1). they get paid more for exactly the same job...and its the JOB that is awarded
2). women have less opportunities on the job market
3). women are promoted less then men even if they are better, perform better etc.
4). because of sexist scum like you...surprise surprise.

[Gandhi_was_a_pedo]

you came here for intelligent debate by starting off with misogyny.


intelligent.



if my posts have all been mindless hatred, why have you and your legion of leftist idiots been completely unsuccessful at rebutting any of them??

[hatzel]

How is it an anti-semetic website, if all it is, is quoting jewish scripture?

http://fc05.deviantart.net/fs50/f/2009/298/d/7/Zog_by_Gimpfest.jpg

[Rusty Shackleford]

if my posts have all been mindless hatred, why have you and your legion of leftist idiots been completely unsuccessful at rebutting any of them??
i already did.

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[PhoenixAsh]

if my posts have all been mindless hatred, why have you and your legion of leftist idiots been completely unsuccessful at rebutting any of them??


we have..but it doesn't get into your thick mysogenist skull. Because you refuse to accept reality and facts and instead want desperately to prove that women are inferior.

This is probably because the gir you were stalking rejected you and is now sleeping with another girl...basically the only reason why you are such a pittyful troll filled with so much hatred....either that or you are indeed mentally challenged. Which is ok...but never forget to take your meds again.

[Gandhi_was_a_pedo]

My question:
...why should the public elect an official that will represent them more poorly based on the fact that they have a vagina? The best rep gets the job

Your response
THere you go…you are a mysogenist.

Apparently i'm a misogynist because i believe that the best person for the job should get the job, regardless of their gender

you're delusional.:(

[Rusty Shackleford]

My question:
...why should the public elect an official that will represent them more poorly based on the fact that they have a vagina? The best rep gets the job

Your response
THere you go…you are a mysogenist.

Apparently i'm a misogynist because i believe that the best person for the job should get the job, regardless of their gender

you're delusional.:(


keep postin. only 7 more until you can post them links you been talkin bout.

[PhoenixAsh]

My question:
...why should the public elect an official that will represent them more poorly based on the fact that they have a vagina? The best rep gets the job

Your response
THere you go…you are a mysogenist.

Apparently i'm a misogynist because i believe that the best person for the job should get the job, regardless of their gender

you're delusional.:(

No...you are a mysogenist because you believe women are inferior to men.

[ZeroNowhere]

Lol. some women are people who lure and seduce men. Where do you think the concept of a 'trophy wife' came from?
So are many men, though. For example:
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[Rusty Shackleford]

Men and women are both capable of seduction. its not like women are inherently sirens or some shit.


also, happy time

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[hatzel]

keep postin. only 7 more until you can post them links you been talkin bout.

I'm looking forward to it! Maybe he'll link us to Stormfront's legendary 'Ladies: Please Give YOUR Definition of Jewish Radical Feminism' thread :)


hmmmmmmmmm radical feminism, what is it....

well it's the kind of thing that would make a person think that bras were invented just to torture women rather than to keep the... oh well you know what I mean

it's when a women's group publishes a study with false results claiming that domestic abuse spikes radically during the Super Bowl, and then trys to make a case that men's sports should be curtailed or disapproved of because they promote abuse of women even as they know that their superbowl study is false

It's when women let themselves look ugly on purpose, wear no makeup or even deoderant, and dress like men because they think "being attractive and trying to look pretty is a form of slavery to men"

It's when a women's group has as it's leader and members, mostly angry lesbians, because normal straight women are totally turned off by the things they believe or promote

It's when the idea is promoted that women should have children by themselves without the physical or emotional contribution of a dad for their children and a husband for themselves.

It's when the idea of being "independent" is taken so far, that it is promoted as the most important thing of all, even when it's bad for the woman who is doing it

It's when you have a group of guys and one girl drinking, and the girl in the group drinks way too much because she somehow thinks she should or MUST prove that she can "keep up with the guys" even though she's half their size...

It's when a woman takes martial arts classes, not for self defense so that she can beat up a guy if he trys to hurt her or rape her, but because she just wants to be able to beat up guys ...Oh, how familiar all these points seem to be...:rolleyes:

[Rusty Shackleford]

So Jewish Radical Feminism is Krav Maga and bra burning :lol:

[ZeroNowhere]

Obviously i was wrong. There's only a bunch of sun-starved virgins sticking their fingers in their ears and yelling 'LALALALLALALLALALLALALALLALALLALALALLALALLLALALLA I CAN'T HEAR YOU LALALALLALALLALALLALALLALALA'I think that you are misinterpreting our response. It is quite clear here that us Revleft members form a hostile hive mind, as can be seen in our response to you. This could not be explained by us being sun-starved virgins, who, by merit of being sun-starved and hence isolated, would not be able to merge with one another to form a hive mind. In fact, there is only one possible explanation for our condition, which excludes us being virgins; you see, we love the lamp.

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[hatzel]

So Jewish Radical Feminism is Krav Maga and bra burning :lol:

In the rich tradition of Lilith and Mary Magdalene :)

[Rusty Shackleford]

You see, Revleft is actually just about 20 or 20 people in Des Moines that are in the store room of the local walmart who at random make arguments along the lines of various tendencies but we all agree on a general line of attack and stick to it.


in reality though. Blatant forms of oppression, racism, bigotry and fascism and various reactionary trends unite usually hostile groups against whoever is promoting the aforementioned shit.

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[FreeSpeechFTW]

wow revleft this is fucking pathetic. a guy argued a different viewpoint all you people did was call him a troll, misogynist, and just critique minor mistakes in his grammar? believe it or not, not everyone shares the same hyperleft opinions we do. How about arguing against his arguments instead of resorting to strawman and ad hominem?

[hatzel]

You see, Revleft is actually just about 20 or 20 people in Des Moines that are in the store room of the local walmart

What?! Why did nobody tell me?! Aren't I invited to join you guys?

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[ZeroNowhere]

wow revleft this is fucking pathetic. a guy argued a different viewpoint all you people did was call him a troll, misogynist, and just critique minor mistakes in his grammar? believe it or not, not everyone shares the same hyperleft opinions we do. How about arguing against his arguments instead of resorting to strawman and ad hominem?Because I am named after an Eyehategod song and therefore have to go around screaming angrily in a frantic manner.

[Rusty Shackleford]

wow revleft this is fucking pathetic. a guy argued a different viewpoint all you people did was call him a troll, misogynist, and just critique minor mistakes in his grammar? believe it or not, not everyone shares the same hyperleft opinions we do. How about arguing against his arguments instead of resorting to strawman and ad hominem?
There has been an influx of trolls from /new/ the line of argument OP took after a few responses were made began to degrade it.

yes i posted gnomes, but hey, i love gnomes.


Because I am named after an Eyehategod song and therefore have to go around screaming angrily in a frantic manner.


lol'd


lets give it a listen

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[hatzel]

not everyone shares the same hyperleft opinions we do

Are you even included in the 'we'? I mean, the right-wing trolls seem to love coming over here ranting about how racist Che was and how we don't let those with dissenting views spout their shit, and so far you're confirming the stereotype...

To be honest, if somebody comes on here with a load of misogynist crap, and then randomly quotes a load of stuff about how terrible Jews are, copy-pasted from an anti-semitic website, we'll happily turn our noses up at them :)

Also, this dog is really big:

http://www.funnydogsite.com/pictures/Huge_Dog_Is_Huge.jpg

[Manic Impressive]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VOxGRuKFwJg (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VOxGRuKFwJg)

[ZeroNowhere]

There has been an influx of trolls from /new/ the line of argument OP took after a few responses were made began to degrade it. Yes. To be fair, Rusty began quite reasonably, because it was not perhaps entirely clear to all that this user was a troll, and I was probably the first one to be unreasonably hostile and condemn the user explicitly as a troll, because I am future.

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[FreeSpeechFTW]

Are you even included in the 'we'? I mean, the right-wing trolls seem to love coming over here ranting about how racist Che was and how we don't let those with dissenting views spout their shit, and so far you're confirming the stereotype...

To be honest, if somebody comes on here with a load of misogynist crap, and then randomly quotes a load of stuff about how terrible Jews are, copy-pasted from an anti-semitic website, we'll happily turn our noses up at them


I consider myself leftist, but I don't agree 100% to every single leftist opinion (for example, I am anti-immigration and pro-nationalist.)

And he wasn't saying OMGOMGOMGO WOMEN ARE EVIL KILL THEM ALL BURNM THEIR HOUSES, he was presenting facts and arguments to support his controversial viewpoints, and then lashed out on for having said viewpoints. Also, that website wasn't even anti-semitic. it was just a website of jewish quotes, and even if it was an anti-semitic website it doesn't make its info less valid if it comes from recognized sources.

[Rusty Shackleford]

I consider myself leftist, but I don't agree 100% to every single leftist opinion (for example, I am anti-immigration and pro-nationalist.)

And he wasn't saying OMGOMGOMGO WOMEN ARE EVIL KILL THEM ALL BURNM THEIR HOUSES, he was presenting facts and arguments to support his controversial viewpoints, and then lashed out on for having said viewpoints. Also, that website wasn't even anti-semitic. it was just a website of jewish quotes, and even if it was an anti-semitic website it doesn't make its info less valid if it comes from recognized sources.


anti-immigrant? what kind of leftist are you? a democrat? or a RINO?

if industry can move, then people can. even then, workers have no border. they are free labor, not tied to anything besides their ability to sell their labor.

also, pro-nationalist? in what sense. Nationalist as in "Iraq is occupied, and therefore, deserves to be sovereign" or "America fuck yeah, were the best"

[hatzel]

Also, that website wasn't even anti-semitic. it was just a website of jewish quotes, and even if it was an anti-semitic website it doesn't make its info less valid if it comes from recognized sources.

If you can give me one reason why what some rabbi had to say about some guy named Yeshu 1800 years ago has any relevance to the feminist movement, I'll give you one of these:

http://www.clipartheaven.com/clipart/sports/cartoons_(d_-_q)/medal_-_gold.gif

And no. When websites collect quotes from the Talmud to show how terrible and evil Judaism is, it's generally considered antisemitic, rather than neutral academia. And it's rarely considered anything to do with the topic at hand, so quoting it here belies one of two things: either he's a big ol' troll, or he's far-right. Or both. Most probably both...

Anyway, as a supposed leftist who loves his country and doesn't want foreigners in it, how about you go and introduce yourself (http://www.revleft.com/vb/introductions-f23/index.html)? :)

[Cleansing Conspiratorial Revolutionary Flame]

wow revleft this is fucking pathetic. a guy argued a different viewpoint all you people did was call him a troll, misogynist, and just critique minor mistakes in his grammar? believe it or not, not everyone shares the same hyperleft opinions we do. How about arguing against his arguments instead of resorting to strawman and ad hominem?
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_dPkdRARJcV0/TDCo7mtvpyI/AAAAAAAAB1c/mvO4wBhcre4/s1600/lufthansa.jpg


How about being purged from the site for being a Misogynistic Racist Nationalist?

[ZeroNowhere]

I consider myself leftist, but I don't agree 100% to every single leftist opinion (for example, I am anti-immigration and pro-nationalist.)

And he wasn't saying OMGOMGOMGO WOMEN ARE EVIL KILL THEM ALL BURNM THEIR HOUSES, he was presenting facts and arguments to support his controversial viewpoints, and then lashed out on for having said viewpoints. Also, that website wasn't even anti-semitic. it was just a website of jewish quotes, and even if it was an anti-semitic website it doesn't make its info less valid if it comes from recognized sources.
Don't worry, things will be alright so long as you give up your nationalism and rejoice in universal agape. Be the change you want to see in the world. There may be much hostility here at present, but, with your help, the world will love again.

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[Rusty Shackleford]

im not going to post anything relevant. i just want to point out how much i want to go to Roadburn Festival. i really with i lived in the EU now.

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[hatzel]

Be the change you want to see in the world.

WHATCHA FRIGGIN' QUOTIN' PAEDOS FOR?!?!?! :cursing:

http://www.n8w.com/newweb/images/ghandi-l.png

[Rusty Shackleford]

this is gonna be a fun summer.

[Cleansing Conspiratorial Revolutionary Flame]

this is gonna be a fun summer.
Summer time! :lol:

[hatzel]

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_x9kyAxJSZQ0/TKFEnz8NHQI/AAAAAAAAAKQ/ZVAHpiwMja0/s1600/super-computer-nerd.jpg

[hatzel]

Because I've got such a busy life, I'm off to play tennis now, toodles...

http://images1.fanpop.com/images/image_uploads/Tennis-mario-tennis-1166041_600_600.jpg

I hope the kiddies won't have gone back to school by the time I get back :)

[Ele'ill]

What a boring thread.

[JustMovement]

What exactly is an inferior victim complex? Is this a new just recently discovered complex? Perhaps a rare cross of an inferiority complex with a victim complex?

[hatzel]

What a boring thread.

You're not enthralled by my talk of tennis? :(

We didn't get on the court in the end because a load of kids were playing against their mummies. Therefore I'm back :)

[gorillafuck]

oh my god revleft, how are you all this easy to troll? seriously, this forum is full of the most oblivious people. it shouldn't be even near as easy as it is to troll but yep when "ghandi was a pedo" posts about womens natural role people get upset.

[hatzel]

oh my god revleft, how are you all this easy to troll? seriously, this forum is full of the most oblivious people

You trollin'? :lol:

[ZeroNowhere]

oh my god revleft, how are you all this easy to troll? seriously, this forum is full of the most oblivious people. it shouldn't be even near as easy as it is to troll but yep when "ghandi was a pedo" posts about womens natural role people get upset.To be fair, most people do seem to have noticed that they were a troll.

[Thug Lessons]

Gandhi was a pedo.

[hatzel]

Gandhi was a pedo.

I don't get why you people refuse to spell it paedo...strange...change that!

[Reznov]

Becasue each human being has needs and desires and want to be happy in their lives, and sometimes that means not following this bullshit "norm" like you just described is constantly shoved down their throat?

[Reznov]

oh my god revleft, how are you all this easy to troll? seriously, this forum is full of the most oblivious people. it shouldn't be even near as easy as it is to troll but yep when "ghandi was a pedo" posts about womens natural role people get upset.

I think it shows the revolutionary character of each poster when they lash out against topics like this, even if they are trolling.

[hatzel]

Becasue each human being has needs and desires and want to be happy in their lives, and sometimes that means not following this bullshit "norm" like you just described is constantly shoved down their throat?

Was this a response to my suggesting people spell 'paedo' in a more English fashion? :confused:

:laugh:

[Manic Impressive]

What a boring thread.
Do us all a favour and close it

[hatzel]

Do us all a favour and close it

If we shut every boring thread, OI would be totally decimated. Anyway, where else could I post this picture?

http://helmstone.files.wordpress.com/2011/02/trombone.jpg

[ZeroNowhere]

If we shut every boring thread, OI would be totally decimated.The Rabbi has a point.

[hatzel]

The Rabbi has a point.

*Insert childish immature joke about the effects of arousal on the male member*

[The Douche]

http://www.carneycastle.com/Caerphilly/model1.jpg


This makes me want to go to my storage unit, pick up my legos, and take a week off from work.

[Manic Impressive]

If we shut every boring thread, OI would be totally decimated. Anyway, where else could I post this picture?
This thread isn't of the quality of 29,000 or even Black Nationalist the OP has been banned I see little point in continuing. Plus I'm sure there are plenty more troll threads coming don't splurge all your pictures in one thread that's a school boy error.

[Lunatic Concept]

Or you could just play minecraft :)

[hatzel]

Plus I'm sure there are plenty more troll threads coming don't splurge all your pictures in one thread that's a school boy error.

If they can do the same thing over and over again, we can too. Pic recycling! :lol:

[Thug Lessons]

I don't get why you people refuse to spell it paedo...strange...change that!
Because we say "ped oh" rather than "pee dough". It's part of that whole "living in a land populated by barbaric apes rather than obnoxious monkeys" thing.

[Thug Lessons]

Just in case anyone is still confused most Americans talk like this:

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Whereas most British people talk like this:

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[hatzel]

You know I wish most of us talked like that Tintin...I might move to Teeside :lol:

[Lenina Rosenweg]

If not for the Battle of Saratoga...

[Thug Lessons]

Correct, Tintin is the sigh of an oppressed creature, the heart of a heartless world.

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[Os Cangaceiros]

I haven't said a single word about race. You people are pathetic.

It's obvious where you're from, though. :rolleyes:

[Münchhausen]

I know I'm a little bit late and i don't know if anybody actually cares, but I'm quite sure that Ghandi's wife was only a few months younger than he was... i think he was married when he was thirteen, so i find the statement that he "was a pedo" somewhat strange :blink:... just saying...

[hatzel]

I know I'm a little bit late and i don't know if anybody actually cares, but I'm quite sure that Ghandi's wife was only a few months younger than he was... i think he was married when he was thirteen, so i find the statement that he "was a pedo" somewhat strange :blink:... just saying...

You're absolutely right but it's totally not important, nor is it even worth pointing out, because this thread is actually all about these bad boys:

http://www.gphoto.co.uk/transport/steam-train1.jpg

Chuggachuggachuggachuggachuggachuggachuggachugga!

[Bad Grrrl Agro]

Why...

do women not realise the value of equality through varying roles? Traditionally, women have been the child rearers whilst men have been the hunter/gatherers... without either, a society could not thrive. Why is such an appalling victim complex ingrained in them that they now see 'equality' as being exactly identical to men? And how are we supposed to provide them with demanded 'equality' when nature gives them different hormones, different bodies, and different purposes to us?
Fuck you.

[#FF0000]

Fuck you.

dont

get

trolled

[Hebrew Hammer]

Why...

do women not realise the value of equality through varying roles? Traditionally, women have been the child rearers whilst men have been the hunter/gatherers... without either, a society could not thrive. Why is such an appalling victim complex ingrained in them that they now see 'equality' as being exactly identical to men? And how are we supposed to provide them with demanded 'equality' when nature gives them different hormones, different bodies, and different purposes to us?

I think we've evolved a little past this don't you think? But maybe centuries of objectification and current objectification in this decadent culture would cause such a state, idk, not a woman. But you're banned now so idk why I'm responding.

[Tim Finnegan]

You know I wish most of us talked like that Tintin...
I do! I do! I win! :D

[hatzel]

I do! I do! I win! :D

http://ny-image3.etsy.com/il_fullxfull.29744879.jpg

[PhoenixAsh]

I do! I do! I win! :D

I totally read that in that accent.

[Blackscare]

They raise the child and ensure that the familial and home environment is a suitable one for the upbringing of a child and the establishment of a good nuclear family.

It appears that you're not just a traditionalist shmuck, you're a fucking dolt too. There is nothing 'traditional', 'ancient', or 'natural' about nuclear families, they were basically invented in the 1950's. At least know what you're talking about if you're going to spout this shit.

[Le Libérer]

Closed.