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Cassius Clay
4th October 2003, 15:18
Since we all know that Stalin murdered 30 million innocent people (Hitler said so, so that's all I need) and is responsible for every crime commited in the 20th and 21st century so far I think it's time for a in depth anaylsis and exposure of this man's crimes which (and I've not heard this before) never get enough attention.

Since most of us are youngsters on this board, or not that old anyway we should start with how Stalin is still launching his reign of terror today. First it's a well known fact that Saddam Huissein is a Stalinist (for you real Leftists wondering dont worry the CIA decided to back him because Stalin had sent moles and spys there in the late 40's), the genocide of the Kurds was inspired by Stalin's genocide of the erhm, well where to begin. Eastern Europe or Siberia? And we all know that Saddam had the 'intent' to develop Nuclear weapons, no scrap that the reason they haven't been found yet is because Saddam shipped them to his Stalinist friends in the former USSR where we all know that the nationalist civil wars are Stalin's fault (he cleverly tried to get away with the responsiblity by dying fourty years before they began, still we all know the truth it was Stalin's fault).

The tragedy of September 11th, whether it be in Chile or New York it is Stalin's fault. Let me explain, first the Stalinist terriorist attacks in America. We all know that the Stalinist USSR (the only reason the successors of Stalin claimed to not follow and criticised him was to deceive the world) invaded Afghanistan, the resulting genocide (see Rambo III) meant that the freedom loving democracys in America and Pakistan were morally compelled to aid the Afghan people from Stalinist tyranny. Unfournatly just as the Soviets and their Afghan puppets were being defeated by the glourious freedom fighting people in the Mujhadden the Stalinists decided to plant two of their most loyal and fanatical members into the democratic Mujhadden.

Osama Bin Landed and Mullah Omar would proceed to condemm the Afghan people to a decade more of Stalinist tyranny. The claim that they were religious fanatics is very dubious. First it is a well known fact Stalin murdered close to 100 million Christians (see the friendly people at alt-politics-white-power) and also that he was anti-semitic (those statements he made condemming anti-semitism were a mere propagada trick and he only regonised Isreal because he could then have a excuse to kill all the Jews in Eastern Europe) but most importantly he worshipped himself just like the Stalinist Taliban worshipped Allah.

Inspired by Stalin's terriorist activities in the 1900's Bin Landed and the Taliban (killing all the Afghan communists to give a ounce of credibility to deny who the real culprit was, yes that's right) decided to strike a the WTC and the Pentagen. Freedom was threatened, so in the interests of that freedom it was decided to limit civil liberties and set up camps for children, ofcourse if it hadn't been for the Stalinist Cuba democratic America could of been able to set up a whole network of these prisons holding the most deadly terriorists in the world.

Regarding the events in Chile, we all know that Stalin had come up with the anti-Marxist, anti-Leninist theory of Socialism in One Country (Stalin must of faked all those statements by Marx, Lenin and Engels in favor of that theory for propaganda purposes) and also that Stalin was not in favor of a real revolution only to further his reign of terror and tyranny. Allende thus fell because he followed Stalin's line, the blood of the thousands of Chilean workers lays with Stalin.

This ofcourse brings us onto a similar event. Hitler and Nazi Germany. Whether you be a Commie or Capitalist alike we all know Stalin was fully responsible for Hitler's rise to power. That Stalin wasn't even head of state in the USSR let alone Germany does not matter, that Hitler met with Germany's biggest industrialists to gain support as the 'only alternative to the Communists' means nothing for we all know the truth. It wasn't as if the German Stalinists actually worked for unity with the SPD it is they under Stalin's orders who is responsible for Hitler's rise to power, the Capitalists can be forgiven it's not as if the Catholic Party gave the majority of their votes in favor of Hitler's enabling act when they could of prevented it.

Oh yes and the Wall Street Crash and the treaty of Versailles only played minor details. The guilt lies with that monster in the Kremlin Stalin. Everything can be not only indirectly but directly linked to him. The Nazis and Hitler claimed and the Neo-Nazis claim today that they anti-Stalin. This is rubbish. Respected historians have told me that they were 'ideological brothers' and both 'Authoritarians'. And it wasn't as if the Stalinist Comintern fought Fascism throughout the 30's. Dont be stupid if Stalin hadn't disrupted the Munich conference with his war hungry policies there would have been no war since Britain and France could of as they allways wanted to and replace Stalinist tyranny in Germany with democracy style in previous British and French protectorats like Algeria and India.

The Nazis only invaded the Stalinist USSR because that meant they could subject the millions of Christians in Russia to slaughter. Stalin and Hitler (who was a good Stalinist, look at the originall name of the Nazi party that's all the prove you need, all the monarchies who teamed up with Hitler were the result of inflitration, all the communists Hitler killed were part of the deception) played a game to see how many they could kill.

The invasion by Hitler where he was welcomed as a liberator (Joseph Goebbels and Nazi propaganda films are enough for me why aren't they for you?) presented Stalin with the perfect opportunity to pass the blame for his crimes and incompetence onto Hitler (who was just a poodle compared to Stalin).

Stalin could of saved the 28 millions Soviets who died during the war if he had prepared properly. I mean any sane person would of been able to of predicted the precise date of a invasion. But we all know Stalin was a paranoid sadist. He killed all his military, the fact that the number of officers doubled in the late 30's means fuck all, they were brainwashed fools, if it hadn't been for the American aid which constiutued a massive 0.1% of Red Army equipment before 1943 then the Reds would of lost. It's not as if thousands of tanks, planes, artillery, guns, mortars were produced between 1939 and 1941 alone. It's well known Stalin prepared poorly for the war. Haven't you seen Enemy at the Gates? Those poor Russkies I bet if Trotsky had been in command Hitler's army that conquered western europe would of been beaten in a day.

The only reason the archives say the USSR has less people in prison that today's Democratic America is because they haven't been opened, no they were destroyed that's right. By Gorbachev and Yeltsin they were Stalinists.

The butchers of Tinamamen Square were loyal heirs of Stalin, whether they be a beuracracy or just plain butchers. It's all the result of Stalinism. The only reason wonderful companys like Nike are able to operate in Stalinist China is because they provide wonderful employment opportunities (something Stalin's USSR never had, honest!) for the poor suffering CHinese people.

Stalin was also responsible for a similar massacre 75 years before. He only gave the opposite advice to the Chinese Commies to deceive the world, and it's worked so well everywhere I go I'm bombarded by Stalinist propaganda. It's very easy for people to be brainwashed into Stalinist cults nowdays, especially in the west.

We all know Stalinist parties operate like a army with top to down criticism and orders, nothing else. I mean most in most armies you can replace 50% of your officers, it's obvious that a key sign that a society is run by new bosses is that the workers are given right to elect their own officials, to replace the ones they dont like. If that sounds like a contradiction dont worry, we all know Stalin was a paranoid, sadist who was Authoritarian. It's not as if there's countless examples of workers and non-party people complaining of officials in the press. No we must be aloud to form factions after the majority have voted for the other sides decisions. That's real democracy, not a army or beuracracy like Stalin was.

Stalin messed up in Spain and let the Fascists win (well he would they were ideolgical brothers) he only gave tens of thousands of rilfes, machine guns, grenades and countless fighters and tanks for lip service. And to see how many Spanish people he could kill ofcourse. And Stalin's followers continue to threaten the world and peace today. As we have seen Saddam and Osama are of similar Stalinist ilk. The Stalinist DPRK continues to threaten the world in pursuit of nuclear weapons to threaten the world. I mean there's enough nuclear weapons in Korea, and those 1750 such weapons are in safe hands in the South thankyou very much.

We all know that Stalin built a wall to lock people into his tyranny. The reason he condemmed the East Germany governments policys which led to mass migration to the freedom loving west was to decieve. I mean we all know that Stalin's partys were like armys with no dissent and that he was the ultimate Dictator who had crushed all opposition. All the testimony that he was easy to talk and disagree with and that he couldn't even secure the release of some doctors makes no sense. Afterall we all know Stalin was planning on a second purge to equal the holocaust. Not that Stalin is fully clean for the first holocaust, as we've seen he fucked up as military commander and therefor is responsible for every death in the Red Army, but it's a fact that the Red Army raped all Jewish women they found in the camps and that because the USSR despite the west continuing to offer diplomatic overtures didn't sign the geneva convention it is responsible for the Nazi treatement of civilians and POW's in the USSR.

I mean if the USSR had signed up the Nazis would of treated everyone brilliantly, but it was part of Stalin's plan, because in order to save his regime he had to hide how prosperous everyone else in the west lived. Like full employment, peace and no ethnic tension. Unlike in the Stalinist USSR ofcourse. Back to the issue, Stalin also tried to reflect the blame for the wall by doing a minor thing like dying seven years before it was built.

Like I said the Stalinists of today continue to threaten the world's peace and democracy. Therefor it has to be exposed. Stalin's crimes dont get nearly enough of the attention they should do in the mass media. If every media station be it tv, internet, radio or journals had been bothered to make the effort of writing and uncovering new crimes of Stalin on the 50th anniversary of his death that would been great. But they didn't.

The Trade Union officials beaten and toruted in present day Russia deserve it. Afterall they would only do the same if they got the chance. Now Russia and the former USSR is free, the only political parties banned are Stalinist cults and not all of the partisans of WW2 against Nazism have been thrown into jail, some of them weren't tainted by Stalin.

Adolf Hitler for all his minor faults (when comapred to Stalin) said it right when he described Stalin and Russia as such.

''Russia is ruled by bloodstained criminalls who have butchered millions of Russia's leading intelliegenstia through famine and torture.''

Continue the fight whatever side of the policitcal spectrum you are on.

History should not be forgotten!

Bianconero
4th October 2003, 16:36
LOL, Clay at his best it seems. Not bad, Comrade. Personally, I agree that a lot that has been said about Stalin is western propaganda. What I still disagree with is the Cult of Personality that was built around him and Lenin from 1917 - 1953. What is your oppinion on this 'problem' (don't know if it's a problem for you too)?

Cassius Clay
4th October 2003, 17:06
I agree it's a problem.

Stalin fought against it. Alot say that Stalin was responsible for a 'cult' around Lenin, while I haven't yet found anything which directly contradicts that it still doesn't make sense if you acknowledge Stalin's attidude towards other'cults' notably his own.

I believe the German poet/writer/commie Bertolt Brecht described it best with the below.

Often and copiously honor has been done to

Comrade Lenin. There are busts and statues.

Cities are called after him, and children.

Speeches are made in many languages

There are meetings and demonstrations

From Shanghai to Chicago in Lenin's honor.

But this is how he was honored by

The carpet weavers of Kuyan-Bulak

A little township in southern Turkestan.

Every evening there twenty carpet weavers

Shaking with fever rise from their primitive looms.

Fever is rife: the railway station

Is full of the hum of mosquitoes, a thick cloud

That rises from the swamp behind the old camels' graveyard.

But the railway train which

Every two weeks brings water and smoke, brings

The news also one day

That the day approaches for honoring

Comrade Lenin.

And the people of Kuyan-Bulak

Carpet weavers, poor people

Decide that in their township too

Comrade Lenin's Plaster bust shall be put up.

Then, as the collection is made for the bust

They all stand

Shaking with fever and offer

Their hard-earned kopeks with trembling hands.

And the Red Army man Stepa Gamalev, who

Carefully counts and minutely watches

Sees how ready they are to honor Lenin,

And he is glad

But he also sees their unsteady hands

And he suddenly proposes

That the money for the bust be used to buy petroleum

To be poured on the swamp behind the camels' graveyard

Where the mosquitoes breed that carry

The fever germ.

And so to fight the fever at Kuyan-Bulak, thus

Honoring the dead but

Never to be forgotten

Comrade Lenin.

They resolved to do this.

On the day of the ceremony they carried

Their dented buckets filled with black petroleum

One after the other

And poured it over the swamp.

So they helped themselves by honoring Lenin, and

Honored him by helping themselves, and thus

Had understood him well.

2

We have heard how the people of Kuyan-Bulak

Honored Lenin. When in the evening

The petroleum had been bought and poured on the swamp

A man rose at the meeting, demanding

That a plaque be affixed on the railway station

Recording these events and containing

Precise details too of their altered plan, the exchange of

The bust for Lenin for a barrel of fever-destroying oil.

And all this in honor of Lenin.

And they did this as well

And put up the plaque.


Yeah it is a problem, and if Stalin did create a 'cult' around Lenin then he was wrong to.

Invader Zim
4th October 2003, 22:12
Shit, I lost my goddamn watch... that fucker stalins stolen it...

My computer crashed yesterday... this is STALINS WORK!

Silent Eye
4th October 2003, 23:21
My girlfriend dumped me., that damned stalin must be behind it :rolleyes:


Excellent post on the part of CC


a massive 0.1% of Red Army equipment

I have been looking everywhere for those statistics! Thank you.

Jesus Christ
5th October 2003, 02:43
oh man, i have diahrrea, stalin mustve slipped some xlax into my mocha latte
mother fucker :lol:

Ian
5th October 2003, 11:06
I really don't think that destroying the environment in one's name is much of an honour to be bestowed upon comrade Lenin but I can appreciate it if it's read while considering it was written in the 1930's (I assume). :D

Urban Rubble
5th October 2003, 22:28
Good post Cassius. I'm not even a Stalinist but I can see the unbelieveable amount of bullshit that has been made up about him.

Don't forget the Vietnam war, that was also Stalin's fault !

I do however, disagree that Stalin did not enjoy the personality cult surrounding him. The man named everything he could after himself, he quoted himself in speeches.

But that is not a debate I wish to start. Good post comrade.

Ian
5th October 2003, 23:32
Quoting yourself isn't a huge deal in my opinion, in speeches I'm always saying "as I said earlier..." but that might just be me...

Indysocialist
5th October 2003, 23:43
And don't forget Napoleon, Stalin hopped in a time machine and went back and told Napoleon to invade everything, even Russia! When he was done there he went back to Rome and helped Nero burn it down! Ooooh Comrade Stalin you rascal! :marx:

Sovietski Soyuz
6th October 2003, 04:33
Another great post by Comrade Cassius. Keep fighting, we must dispell the myths around socialist leaders such as Stalin.

(*
6th October 2003, 05:05
My cat peed on my bed, twice!

DAMN YOU STALIN, DAMN YOU! *waves fist in air*

Guest1
6th October 2003, 05:23
I'm really stoned, DAMN YOU STALIN!

no wait... THANK YOU UNCLE JOE! :D

Ian
6th October 2003, 09:05
Uhhh... Indy, is there something you aren't telling us? That current avatar (red flag with a white circle with a black hammer and sickle in the middle) is a national bolshevik flag... :blink: :huh:

Vinny Rafarino
6th October 2003, 10:10
You definitely want to change that avatar Indy.

Here is the FAQ (http://members.odinsrage.com/natbol/faq.html) from the National Bolsheviks's Yanqui site.


They are just another pathetic Neo Nazi group. Pay close attention to their views on jews. Sound familiar?

Bianconero
6th October 2003, 13:44
Here is the FAQ from the National Bolsheviks's Yanqui site.

Disturbing.

YKTMX
6th October 2003, 18:01
Ooo, boo-hoo, nobody loves Uncle Joe, it just ain't fair, my favourite tyrant is hated noooooo, ahhh bloody trots, moan moan, lies lies, but Hitler said, boo hoo, traitors.


Good post Cassius

Dirty Commie
6th October 2003, 20:42
You forgot that he and hitler spent time in prison together, and that Adolf was Joe's prison *****. :P

Ian
10th October 2003, 00:51
Hmm Indy hasn't changed his Avatar yet, maybe someone should PM him and tell him what it stands for.