Spider identification

[Rusty Shackleford]

so ive tried several times to figure out what spider i just killed on various occasions. i HATE spiders and im always trying to figure out if the ones i spot are venemous or not.

and well, the one i just killed ill give some info on.

It was hanging out on the ceiling. nasty looking little fella. (though looks dont mean everything) it was crawling towards the ceiling fan. i decided to use some computer dusting spray to get it down. it took a few good blasts to get it dislodged and then when it finally started going down it made a X like pattern with its legs. i cant remember if it was an X or 3 prongs. but, it was hanging by its web thread making a safe landing and i kicked it down and killed it. i didnt crush it (which is goo cause i could then identify it)

anyways.

It was predominantly black. Has a white spot on its ass and then a white line between its abdomen and its thorax. it seems to have started from the top of its back and went along the connection until it followed along its side. it had hairy front legs and i think white joint lines. didnt have much in the way of fangs that i could tell(i may be wrong though) and when dead it was about the size of a dime.


any ideas? and could you post pictures? i could recognize it.


i tried looking it up and didnt find anything at all. i looked at the norcal spider chart and it wasnt on there (which is good :lol:)

so yeah. if you can help, please do.

[Sasha]

You have an blackwidow infestation, get out of the house now...

[Rusty Shackleford]

:lol:

[Ele'ill]

http://nature.berkeley.edu/~stevelew/cbcstuff/common_spiders/images/argentata_bg_seanmccann.jpg

[ZeroNowhere]

It might be a squirrel. As such, maybe you should ask Thomas MacLaine.

[Rusty Shackleford]

http://nature.berkeley.edu/%7Estevelew/cbcstuff/common_spiders/images/argentata_bg_seanmccann.jpg

nah it definitely didnt look like that. it was two tone. 90% black 10% white id say

[Dr Mindbender]

I doubt its poisonous. It certainly doesnt sound to be among the 'top 3' from the description you've given. I'd say they've got more to be afraid of from you than you do of them.

[Rusty Shackleford]

I doubt its poisonous. I'd say they've got more to be afraid of from you than you do of them.
thats what im thinking really. if it wasnt on the charts and im having such a hard time finding it, its probably something to not care about.

im still kinda curious though.

[Johnny Kerosene]

http://nature.berkeley.edu/~stevelew/cbcstuff/common_spiders/images/argentata_bg_seanmccann.jpg

That spider looks cool as fuck.

[Dr Mindbender]

thats what im thinking really. if it wasnt on the charts and im having such a hard time finding it, its probably something to not care about.

im still kinda curious though.

Theres only 3 species of spider in the world that can potentially harm you.

Clicky the links for an image

1- Brazillian wandering spider (http://thexodirectory.com/2011/05/brazilian-wandering-spider-the-most-poisonous-spider-in-the-world/) aka. the Banana Spider
Large Brown spider with hairy legs and prominent poison glands, indigenous to rainforests. Generally not found outside Brazil. Too large to construct webs. Very nasty and you should keep well away. Fun fact- Even if you survive the bite, the neurotoxins in the bite can cause the blood vessels in your penis to explode rendering you impotent.

2- Australian funnelweb (http://www.google.co.uk/imgres?imgurl=http://www.dirjournal.com/info/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/f_victorian_funnel_web4.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.dirjournal.com/info/some-of-the-worlds-most-venomous-and-dangerous-spiders/&h=1422&w=1600&sz=744&tbnid=878vrMWe-Gbg6M:&tbnh=133&tbnw=150&prev=/search%3Fq%3Daustralian%2Bfunnel%2Bweb%26tbm%3Disc h%26tbo%3Du&zoom=1&q=australian+funnel+web&hl=en&usg=__XlnyYnEWsqasH46LZ1Xe2RRjyuA=&sa=X&ei=4D7gTaqNJMu6hAfD9a30Ag&sqi=2&ved=0CEcQ9QEwBA)
Modestly large black spider with shiny body and legs. Indigenous to Australian outback. Generally not found outside Australia. Too large to climb its own webs. The name comes from the webs it uses to conceal its burrow from prey.


3-Black widow spider (http://www.google.co.uk/imgres?imgurl=http://www.spyderwood.com/images/Spiders/JSC%2525209911%252520Black%252520Widow%252520belly %2525202.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.spyderwood.com/Spiders,%2520Spiders%2520everywhere.html&h=300&w=400&sz=13&tbnid=GG5QPzkghg32fM:&tbnh=93&tbnw=124&prev=/search%3Fq%3Dblack%2Bwidow%26tbm%3Disch%26tbo%3Du&zoom=1&q=black+widow&hl=en&usg=__CzPRLMsQvtlLez8amy2K7ImYaX0=&sa=X&ei=KD_gTc2-EpGIhQfh0cHDCg&sqi=2&ved=0CFUQ9QEwBA)
Needs no introduction. Fatalities almost eradicated.

These are the only spiders which have any recorded deaths as a result of someone being bitten.

[Rusty Shackleford]

Well theres also the Brown Recluse and the Wolf Spider(this is less dangerous) but the Brown Recluse is apparently aggressive and pretty venemous.

[praxis1966]

Well theres also the Brown Recluse and the Wolf Spider(this is less dangerous) but the Brown Recluse is apparently aggressive and pretty venemous.

Yeah, but at worst a brown recluse might make you ill. Generally, the damage from their venom is localized.

[Dr Mindbender]

Well theres also the Brown Recluse and the Wolf Spider(this is less dangerous) but the Brown Recluse is apparently aggressive and pretty venemous.

Wolf spiders are completely harmless. They're found in gardens in the UK and all our wildlife is completely boring.

I dont know if its true, but i have heard the reason house spiders/wolf spiders are harmless is because their fangs are so small they cannot even penetrate human skin.

The only spiders that have ever harmed anyone I have listed ^.

EDIT: Ok the brown recluse apparently can cause gangrenous bites, however its indignenous only to NW USA and nobody over the age of 7 has ever died directly from a bite.

[bezdomni]

http://www.spiderzrule.com/spider052/USASpiderChart.gif


http://www.guardianpestsolutions.com/images/spiderchart.jpg

[Johnny Kerosene]

Saint Andrew's Cross seems to match your description.

[Rusty Shackleford]

ha when i look it up its BDSM pics. then i add spider and well, its not it.

i guess its just a waste of time.

[GPDP]

Theres only 3 species of spider in the world that can potentially harm you.

Clicky the links for an image

1- Brazillian wandering spider (http://thexodirectory.com/2011/05/brazilian-wandering-spider-the-most-poisonous-spider-in-the-world/) aka. the Banana Spider
Large Brown spider with hairy legs and prominent poison glands, indigenous to rainforests. Generally not found outside Brazil. Too large to construct webs. Very nasty and you should keep well away. Fun fact- Even if you survive the bite, the neurotoxins in the bite can cause the blood vessels in your penis to explode rendering you impotent.

2- Australian funnelweb (http://www.google.co.uk/imgres?imgurl=http://www.dirjournal.com/info/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/f_victorian_funnel_web4.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.dirjournal.com/info/some-of-the-worlds-most-venomous-and-dangerous-spiders/&h=1422&w=1600&sz=744&tbnid=878vrMWe-Gbg6M:&tbnh=133&tbnw=150&prev=/search%3Fq%3Daustralian%2Bfunnel%2Bweb%26tbm%3Disc h%26tbo%3Du&zoom=1&q=australian+funnel+web&hl=en&usg=__XlnyYnEWsqasH46LZ1Xe2RRjyuA=&sa=X&ei=4D7gTaqNJMu6hAfD9a30Ag&sqi=2&ved=0CEcQ9QEwBA)
Modestly large black spider with shiny body and legs. Indigenous to Australian outback. Generally not found outside Australia. Too large to climb its own webs. The name comes from the webs it uses to conceal its burrow from prey.


3-Black widow spider (http://www.google.co.uk/imgres?imgurl=http://www.spyderwood.com/images/Spiders/JSC%2525209911%252520Black%252520Widow%252520belly %2525202.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.spyderwood.com/Spiders,%2520Spiders%2520everywhere.html&h=300&w=400&sz=13&tbnid=GG5QPzkghg32fM:&tbnh=93&tbnw=124&prev=/search%3Fq%3Dblack%2Bwidow%26tbm%3Disch%26tbo%3Du&zoom=1&q=black+widow&hl=en&usg=__CzPRLMsQvtlLez8amy2K7ImYaX0=&sa=X&ei=KD_gTc2-EpGIhQfh0cHDCg&sqi=2&ved=0CFUQ9QEwBA)
Needs no introduction. Fatalities almost eradicated.

These are the only spiders which have any recorded deaths as a result of someone being bitten.

nice try spider

[gorillafuck]

it's likely not poisonous. Just google search all the poisonous spiders you can find out and see if it matches, if you're worried.

[Hebrew Hammer]

I would just stick to killing all spiders on spot just to be safe, that's what I do. After I got bit by a black widow, nah, that species can rot in hell, yeah, it may not kill you but the pain even with pain killers sucks ass. Ung-dly.

[Vendetta]

Buy a bb gun.

[Rusty Shackleford]

ive got an AK-74 looking bb gun :D

[Salyut]

if you kill it it'll come back as a ghost and lay ghost spider eggs in your skin

then you'll have baby ghost spiders eating you and shit

burn the house down

[Chambered Word]

if you kill it it'll come back as a ghost and lay ghost spider eggs in your skin

then you'll have baby ghost spiders eating you and shit

burn the house down

it's pretty much the only way.

[Rusty Shackleford]

just destroyed the shit out of a black widow.

[Angry Young Man]

No way are there only 3 species of spider with fatal bites. I want a link to a zoologist saying this.

Still, if it is true, it's a real motivator to get over my crippling arachnophobia. Post a picture of Shelob and you're dead.

[Die Rote Fahne]

No way are there only 3 species of spider with fatal bites. I want a link to a zoologist saying this.

Still, if it is true, it's a real motivator to get over my crippling arachnophobia. Post a picture of Shelob and you're dead.

There are no venomous spiders where I live, and I am STILL terrified.

[Angry Young Man]

Think really hard about them being harmless.

[Die Rote Fahne]

Think really hard about them being harmless.

I'm terrified of most bugs and insects.. Excluding small flies, bees, Mosquitos and small ants.

[Sasha]

Post a picture of Shelob and you're dead.


i would not do that then, but how about an dutyfull mother with cutesy baby spiders? everobody loves moms with baby's

http://share.triangle.com/sites/share-uda.triangle.com/files/images/large%20spider.preview.jpg

[Angry Young Man]

Spiders don't look after their offspring. Isn't that a trait exclusive to mammals?

[Sasha]

some do, as posted above ^
lots of non-mammals do.
birds do, several fish do, with sea-horses and sea-dragons its even the dad who does it and the mom who abandons them

[Die Rote Fahne]

i would not do that then, but how about an dutyfull mother with cutesy baby spiders? everobody loves moms with baby's

http://share.triangle.com/sites/share-uda.triangle.com/files/images/large%20spider.preview.jpg

Kill with fire.

[Johnny Kerosene]

i would not do that then, but how about an dutyfull mother with cutesy baby spiders? everobody loves moms with baby's

http://share.triangle.com/sites/share-uda.triangle.com/files/images/large%20spider.preview.jpg

+1
That's pretty \m/

[Rusty Shackleford]

i would not do that then, but how about an dutyfull mother with cutesy baby spiders? everobody loves moms with baby's

http://share.triangle.com/sites/share-uda.triangle.com/files/images/large%20spider.preview.jpg
Kill one and you might kill em all.

[Johnny Kerosene]

Kill one and you might kill em all.

Or they might all kill you.

[Angry Young Man]

Way to find a spider with an evil look in her eyes.

[Knight of Cydonia]

:laugh::laugh::laugh: i bet Jazzratt would hate this thread....soooo much. cause he hate spider

[Nothing Human Is Alien]

Theres only 3 species of spider in the world that can potentially harm you.

Clicky the links for an image

1- Brazillian wandering spider (http://thexodirectory.com/2011/05/brazilian-wandering-spider-the-most-poisonous-spider-in-the-world/) aka. the Banana Spider
Large Brown spider with hairy legs and prominent poison glands, indigenous to rainforests. Generally not found outside Brazil. Too large to construct webs. Very nasty and you should keep well away. Fun fact- Even if you survive the bite, the neurotoxins in the bite can cause the blood vessels in your penis to explode rendering you impotent.

2- Australian funnelweb (http://www.google.co.uk/imgres?imgurl=http://www.dirjournal.com/info/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/f_victorian_funnel_web4.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.dirjournal.com/info/some-of-the-worlds-most-venomous-and-dangerous-spiders/&h=1422&w=1600&sz=744&tbnid=878vrMWe-Gbg6M:&tbnh=133&tbnw=150&prev=/search%3Fq%3Daustralian%2Bfunnel%2Bweb%26tbm%3Disc h%26tbo%3Du&zoom=1&q=australian+funnel+web&hl=en&usg=__XlnyYnEWsqasH46LZ1Xe2RRjyuA=&sa=X&ei=4D7gTaqNJMu6hAfD9a30Ag&sqi=2&ved=0CEcQ9QEwBA)
Modestly large black spider with shiny body and legs. Indigenous to Australian outback. Generally not found outside Australia. Too large to climb its own webs. The name comes from the webs it uses to conceal its burrow from prey.


3-Black widow spider (http://www.google.co.uk/imgres?imgurl=http://www.spyderwood.com/images/Spiders/JSC%2525209911%252520Black%252520Widow%252520belly %2525202.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.spyderwood.com/Spiders,%2520Spiders%2520everywhere.html&h=300&w=400&sz=13&tbnid=GG5QPzkghg32fM:&tbnh=93&tbnw=124&prev=/search%3Fq%3Dblack%2Bwidow%26tbm%3Disch%26tbo%3Du&zoom=1&q=black+widow&hl=en&usg=__CzPRLMsQvtlLez8amy2K7ImYaX0=&sa=X&ei=KD_gTc2-EpGIhQfh0cHDCg&sqi=2&ved=0CFUQ9QEwBA)
Needs no introduction. Fatalities almost eradicated.

These are the only spiders which have any recorded deaths as a result of someone being bitten.

Of course death is not the only form of harm. A number of spiders can inflict harm on humans, from itchiness all the way up to necrosis... especially if you have an allergic reaction.