People who say there is in a bad way thrse

[bailey_187]

either you dont listen to hip hop or have stupid standards

curren$y
Big KRIT
Mac Miller
Yelawolf
Wale
J. Cole
Big Sean
Odd Future
Devin the Dude
Kid Cudi
Kendrick Lamar
Meek Mill
Tyga
TI
Donnis
Fabolous
French Montana
Rick Ross
Jay Electronica
Elzhi
GLC
Lupe
Chip The Ripper
Big Boi
Lil Wayne (fuck the haters)
Wiz Khalifa

And More


This diverse list of rappers are releasing some form of hip hop which is good. Are they as good as Nas? Jay Z? BIG? 2Pac? No. But thats 4 rappers that due to both their skill and the era in which they came of age, will always probably be considerd the "GOAT" or whatever

You may not like the "type" of hip hop these guys do, but they are good at what they do. If you want to hear about weed smoking and partying - Wiz Khalifa and Curren$y are your people. If you want to hear some good deep heartfelt lyrics - put on some J. Cole or Kendrick Lamar. If yu want to hear about selling drugs - Rick Ross and French Montana. And if you feel for some funny punchlines - go for Fabolous.

[Pirate Utopian]

Earl Sweatshirt > Nas
IMO.

I'd like to add Flocka and the rest of 1017, Kanye and Lil B.

[Spawn of Stalin]

Earl Sweatshirt > Nas

.........wow

[a rebel]

yo fo shizzle this thread be da bomb my nizzle. Modern hip hop I think is kind of stupid. When you rap about something I could connect to, get rid of the ridiculous auto-tune, and can go more then 10 seconds without throwing cash at "ho's". Maybe I'll listen

[Pirate Utopian]

In my opinion of course...

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[bailey_187]

yo fo shizzle this thread be da bomb my nizzle. Modern hip hop I think is kind of stupid. When you rap about something I could connect to, get rid of the ridiculous auto-tune, and can go more then 10 seconds without throwing cash at "ho's". Maybe I'll listen

Maybe you should try listening first, and you will realise that your characterisation of hip hop isnt true for many of the artists listed above.

Kendrick Lamar and J. Cole dont use autotune or make it rain. But how could you know that, because you dont listen to "modern hip hop". Your not really in a position to judge "modern hip hop", until you listen to "modern hip hop".

And of course you can connect to alot of the content by some of the above artists.

[bailey_187]

I'd like to add Flocka and the rest of 1017, Kanye and Lil B.

ill welcome them to the list except the rest of 1017, not heard anything worth talking about

[Spawn of Stalin]

In my opinion of course...

Yeah he's good, maybe even amazing. Better than Pac and Jay-Z? Possibly, Nas and Biggie? Not there yet in my opinion, maybe one day.

If there's anyone out of OF I'll be watching out for it's him because to be honest he just pisses on the rest of them.

[Spawn of Stalin]

YELAWOLF is my shit right now. Only just really started buying into the Rick Ross hype, used to think he was awful but I'm really starting to believe. Blowin Money Fast is one of the hardest tunes I've heard in my life.

[Property Is Robbery]

Rick Ross? :laugh:

[Spawn of Stalin]

Yeah that's exactly what I was like at first but I love that shit now. Rick Ross is possibly one of the 5 best rappers to come out of the last 10 years in my opinion.

[Spawn of Stalin]

His verse on Raekwon's new album is cool too

[bailey_187]

Rick Ross? :laugh:

u got Teflon Don? Ashes to Ashes? Albert Anastasia EP? Nah didnt think so so how u going ot comment

Rick Ross was kind of shit before, but he's turned amazing in the last year or 2 IMO

When it comes to hearing about moving keys of that archie bunker and lving like Tony Soprano, Rick Ross does it best (even if hes an ex CO)

[Pirate Utopian]

ill welcome them to the list except the rest of 1017, not heard anything worth talking about

Gucci Mane? OJ da Juiceman?

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[a rebel]

Maybe you should try listening first, and you will realise that your characterisation of hip hop isnt true for many of the artists listed above.

Kendrick Lamar and J. Cole dont use autotune or make it rain. But how could you know that, because you dont listen to "modern hip hop". Your not really in a position to judge "modern hip hop", until you listen to "modern hip hop".

And of course you can connect to alot of the content by some of the above artists.

I've listened to plenty of rap, and I don't like it. I also think that your two examples out of all those rappers is pathetic. I thought rap came from the streets, a man trying to do the only thing he knows how to make a life for himself. When you get away from that whole message, as most rappers do, it's absolute crap

[bailey_187]

Gucci Mane? OJ da Juiceman?

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nah man i dont like Gucci Mane

i can tolerate one verse in a song, and he does have some funny lines occasionaly (e.g. his verse on Drake's In My Business)

[Spawn of Stalin]

I've listened to plenty of rap, and I don't like it. I also think that your two examples out of all those rappers is pathetic. I thought rap came from the streets, a man trying to do the only thing he knows how to make a life for himself. When you get away from that whole message, as most rappers do, it's absolute crap
From the first post you made it's been pretty obvious you don't listen to any "modern" Hip Hop, or that you havent bothered to even give it a chance. If you had you would be able to make some valid criticism instead of just saying auto tune sounds shit (how many people even use autotune anyway? not many at all) or it's all about throwing money at *****es.

Seriously I used to be a huge hater of new stuff but that's because I started listening to Hip Hop like 12 13 years ago when Cypress Hill IV sounded state of the art and Wu-Tang Forever was the standard everyone was trying to reach with their LPs. Needless to say, when people started releasing music with huge keyboard and synth based beats, I thought it was shit. But last year or so I've been listening to a bunch of new stuff and I can tell that in 10 or 20 years I'm going to look back at some of the albums that are coming out now and call them just as much classics as 36 Chambers, Return of the Boom Bap or Paid In Full. Hip Hop is really healthy right now believe it or not, it's a good time to start opening your mind and embracing some of the amazing music that is coming out

[Crux]

Big Lurch is true.
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[bailey_187]

I will now post some videos from the artists mentioned:

Kendrick Lamar
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Curren$y
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Yelawolf
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Mac Miller
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[Manic Impressive]

either you dont listen to hip hop or have stupid standards
Firstly go fuck yourself I was listening to hip hop when you was just an itch in your daddys nutsack.
Secondly I'd not heard of Kendrick Lamar and I'll definitely be checking out some of his other stuff so thanks for that. I liked Mac Miller as well, the other two I have heard of not really my cup of tea but not saying they're bad just not what I would listen to.

[Pirate Utopian]

Mac Miller has such a weird face. It's really weird to me for some reason.

Also, no mention yet of the Cool Kids?
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[bailey_187]

Firstly go fuck yourself I was listening to hip hop when you was just an itch in your daddys nutsack.
Secondly I'd not heard of Kendrick Lamar and I'll definitely be checking out some of his other stuff so thanks for that. I liked Mac Miller as well, the other two I have heard of not really my cup of tea but not saying they're bad just not what I would listen to.

and i could hear hip hop then too :cool:

glad you like them

what i meant tho was, if u think all rappers are shit today, u probably arent following hip hop very much anymore. not saying you have to follow hip hop, just that you shouldnt make sweeping judgements like "A rebel" did if u dont.

[Ele'ill]

Yeah sorry but Aesop Rock would be my favorite- again absent from your list.

[Fawkes]

Um, what the hell is the title of this thread?

[Pirate Utopian]

Flocka sums it up:
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[Vanguard1917]

Suprisingly, it was Nelly who, in his own way, hit the nail on the head regarding the issue about the "wackness" of people like Soulja Boy in the eyes of rappers from previous generations: Hip hop was made by youth for youth, and "How can you say a 17-year-old is killing hip hop? ... What are you doing listening to a 17-year-old boy anyway?"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kQqBhkSXOVI&feature=fvwrel

[Chimurenga.]

Fuck Nelly.

[Stranger Than Paradise]

Devin the Dude, Mac Miller, Big Boi, Yelawolf agree completely, gonna see Yelawolf next week with Wu.

I agree with Spawn of Stalin, Earl Sweatshirt is the best member of OF.

Just starting to listen to Curren$y so can't say much about him, I thought Pilot Talk was average apart from the Devin the Dude track. You're spot on though, hip hop is alive and well and it's dumb to moan about 'modern hip hop'.

How bout Reks?
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[Sam_b]

I have maybe only heard about half a dozen of these artists. But then again I seem to regard people like Big L as being relatively 'recent'.

[Pirate Utopian]

He's been dead for like 13 years or so.

[Sam_b]

Aye, that was the point.

[Spawn of Stalin]

gonna see Yelawolf next week with Wu.
Seriously? I have a ticket one of the London shows....is Yelawolf going to be in London? Damn that would be sweet.

[Spawn of Stalin]

I have maybe only heard about half a dozen of these artists. But then again I seem to regard people like Big L as being relatively 'recent'.

Wouldn't you have been like 10 years old when he died?

[manic expression]

Nice list. Jay Electronica, J Cole, TI, Yelawolf, Wale, Lupe, Mac Miller are all sick. I haven't heard much of Curren$y...he's dope. As always I have to add Slaughterhouse. Also CyHi da Prince is worth checking out.

I can't blame people for being suspicious of anything near the mainstream though. 2005-2010 were some really rough years. But the clouds have parted and hip hop is back.

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[Stranger Than Paradise]

Seriously? I have a ticket one of the London shows....is Yelawolf going to be in London? Damn that would be sweet.

Yeah if you got a ticket for the Saturday London show Yelawolf is gonna be there.

[Sam_b]

Wouldn't you have been like 10 years old when he died?

The point being that I don't keep up-to-date with hip-hop.

[bailey_187]

yeah shouldnt of missed out cyhi, his tape Royal Flush was good

[bailey_187]

havnt heard much Reks so didnt feel comfortable with putting him on the list

only heard this Reks song, which i thought was good, but may just be the subject matter (p.s. if anyone has a mp3 of this, i will thank u forever if u direct me in its direction):
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[Spawn of Stalin]

hi...
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[L.A.P.]

u got Teflon Don? Ashes to Ashes? Albert Anastasia EP? Nah didnt think so so how u going ot comment

Rick Ross was kind of shit before, but he's turned amazing in the last year or 2 IMO

When it comes to hearing about moving keys of that archie bunker and lving like Tony Soprano, Rick Ross does it best (even if hes an ex CO)

I used to be into Rick Ross the most when he released Trilla, there were a lot of cool songs on that album. Deeper Than Rap was kind of lame but Teflon Don seemed to be his rebirth but I have yet to here some of the album except Aston Martin Music.


If there's anyone out of OF I'll be watching out for it's him because to be honest he just pisses on the rest of them.

I have to disagree, Tyler the Creator is much better. Sure, Earl Sweatshirt can probably rap and freestyle a lot better but that's about it. Maybe it's because he's young but Earl was just a compilation of good rap songs with hot lines while Tyler the Creator truly made an overall good piece of music with his albums. Bastard and Goblin have this intricate story of a schizophrenic kid role playing from Finn to Dracula and then lapses back to reality with his therapist whom also turns out to be a figment of his imagination, brilliant stuff. Bottom line, Tyler will always be the best member because he's by far the most creative.

[REVLEFT'S BIEGGST MATSER TROL]

I don't understand why people rate Nas, he's actually really quite shit.

[Stranger Than Paradise]

I don't understand why people rate Nas, he's actually really quite shit.

What? Nas had two albums, both technically and lyrically brilliant in Illmatic and It Was Written.

Even this track he just brought out the other day Nasty is sick even if the beat is a bit average.

That Elzhi mixtape that came out this year, Elmatic is dope as well. Production is amazing, live as well.

Also, Kendrick Lamar's new song, gonna be on Section 80:
http://topdawgmusic.com/main/2011/06/17/kendrick-lamar-ronald-reagan-era-prod-tae-beast-off-section80-7211/

[Spawn of Stalin]

I first heard Illmatic when I was about ten years old, around 97 so it had only been out four years then, still fairly new (though today an album released in 2007 would be considered old news). My sister's boyfriend was really into Hip Hop, I kind of looked up to him so I was trying to get into it too. Listened to his Nas tape, hated it. I just couldn't understand it, it was way too intelligent. It Ain't Hard to Tell and The World is Yours blew my mind, I knew what I was listening to could probably be considered technically brilliant, but it was just too much, and looking back, that's actually what made it so damn good.

Took me probably about another two or three years to properly get into Hip Hop, I think the first albums I bought that I really loved were 36 Chambers and Return of the Boom Bap. I couldn't get into either of these albums or Illmatic until I learned to appreciate lyricism.

[REVLEFT'S BIEGGST MATSER TROL]

What? Nas had two albums, both technically and lyrically brilliant in Illmatic and It Was Written.

Even this track he just brought out the other day Nasty is sick even if the beat is a bit average.

That Elzhi mixtape that came out this year, Elmatic is dope as well. Production is amazing, live as well.

Also, Kendrick Lamar's new song, gonna be on Section 80:
http://topdawgmusic.com/main/2011/06/17/kendrick-lamar-ronald-reagan-era-prod-tae-beast-off-section80-7211/

So basically, your defense is that Nas released one really good album and one pretty good album fifteen years ago, did nothing worth mentioning for the next decade and a half, but recently released one good track and a few mixtapes.

Definately one of the best rappers ever then. :cool:

[Comrade_Oscar]

What about Immortal Technique guys he is the bomb!

[Spawn of Stalin]

Yawn

[Pirate Utopian]

Latest MellowHype video!

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[Spawn of Stalin]

Caught that on another forum the other day. Pretty sick track.

[L.A.P.]

So basically, your defense is that Nas released one really good album and one pretty good album fifteen years ago, did nothing worth mentioning for the next decade and a half, but recently released one good track and a few mixtapes.

Definately one of the best rappers ever then. :cool:

Illmatic was not just pretty good but probably the greatest hip-hop album of all time. It Was Written was also a great album. Stillmatic is also a classic and God's Son is very good as well. Even his recent stuff like Hip-Hop Is Dead and Untitled were great.

[REVLEFT'S BIEGGST MATSER TROL]

Illmatic was not just pretty good but probably the greatest hip-hop album of all time. It Was Written was also a great album. Stillmatic is also a classic and God's Son is very good as well. Even his recent stuff like Hip-Hop Is Dead and Untitled were great.

How in any shape or form can stillmatic be considered "a classic?!?"

[Stranger Than Paradise]

So basically, your defense is that Nas released one really good album and one pretty good album fifteen years ago, did nothing worth mentioning for the next decade and a half, but recently released one good track and a few mixtapes.

Definately one of the best rappers ever then. :cool:

Who said really good and pretty good? These are classics. The whole rest of his catalogue isn't bad either, just those are the two best. Illmatic is widely thought of as a top ten all time album. Lyrically Nas was ridiculous, those multi-syllable internal rhymes, and his flow as well.

[L.A.P.]

How in any shape or form can stillmatic be considered "a classic?!?"

Are you serious? Do you live under a rock or is it just not a classic in your personal opinion?

[REVLEFT'S BIEGGST MATSER TROL]

Are you serious? Do you live under a rock or is it just not a classic in your personal opinion?

Yuhuh i'm serious! I've heard someone on MTV or some music channel refer to it as a "classic" but I've never ever heard someone else who likes rap, like, above the age of 15 think too much of it.



Who said really good and pretty good? These are classics. The whole rest of his catalogue isn't bad either, just those are the two best. Illmatic is widely thought of as a top ten all time album. Lyrically Nas was ridiculous, those multi-syllable internal rhymes, and his flow as well.

I do think illmatic is really great, "a classic." I was trying to be as clear as possible so I just said it was really good :P. Obviously this is just my opinion but I think you've got to acknowledged that it was written was worse than illmatic, if it was still a really listenable album. But yeah, the rest of his catalogue "isn't bad" - i'd say it was pretty damn awful in its incessant medicoreness, but okay, not seeing how a guy with two good albums can be considered one of the greatest rappers of all time, or seen as anything other than a guy who had tonnes of promise and then kinda failed.

[Spawn of Stalin]

God I just noticed Mac Miller is on the list. wtf bailey

[L.A.P.]

Yuhuh i'm serious! I've heard someone on MTV or some music channel refer to it as a "classic" but I've never ever heard someone else who likes rap, like, above the age of 15 think too much of it.

I've never met a 15 year old who's even heard of Stillmatic. I've heard several hip-hop heads and critics say Stillmatic was a classic, that album rebooted the man's whole career.

[Spawn of Stalin]

Got Urself A Gun is probably my favourite Nas song outside of Illmatic. Stillmatic was great and definitely a return to form in my opinion. And I don't really think age should play a part in how valid someone's opinion is, when I was 15 I listened to exactly the same MCs I do today. Unless we're talking about the 15 years olds who think they know everything about Hip Hop just because they got on Google and downloaded some CDs, in which case I don't think they would care about Stillmatic considering the album is what 11 or so years old now?

[L.A.P.]

Got Urself A Gun is probably my favourite Nas song outside of Illmatic. Stillmatic was great and definitely a return to form in my opinion. And I don't really think age should play a part in how valid someone's opinion is, when I was 15 I listened to exactly the same MCs I do today. Unless we're talking about the 15 years olds who think they know everything about Hip Hop just because they got on Google and downloaded some CDs, in which case I don't think they would care about Stillmatic considering the album is what 11 or so years old now?

Let;s not forget about this....

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[Spawn of Stalin]

Exactly! Best diss track this side of Y2K

[L.A.P.]

I'd say it's the best diss track in hip-hop period.

[Stranger Than Paradise]

What about It was Written tho? That was one of them albums along with Only Built 4 Cuban Linx and Reasonable Doubt that pioneered mafioso rap. Lots of people don't like it cos it was a bit of a departure from Illmatic but it is still sick.

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[Spawn of Stalin]

It Was Written is a sick album, although not as good in my opinion it was definitely a worthy follow up to Illmatic. I Am and Nastradamus were decent enough too but they didn't exactly make par, for me, Stillmatic made up for that.

I never really got into Reasonable Doubt or any Jay-Z but the purple tape is one of the best Hip Hop albums of all time

[bailey_187]

God I just noticed Mac Miller is on the list. wtf bailey

whats rong with mac bro?

[Pirate Utopian]

Apart from his goofy face, I like Mac Miller.

[Spawn of Stalin]

I just don't like what I've heard at all. It's punchline rap.......without the punchlines.

And yeah he has one of the goofiest faces I've ever seen in my life. Watch the video to that Knock Knock song and press pause at random intervals. Hilarious! It will keep you entertained for literally minutes

[Stranger Than Paradise]

It Was Written is a sick album, although not as good in my opinion it was definitely a worthy follow up to Illmatic. I Am and Nastradamus were decent enough too but they didn't exactly make par, for me, Stillmatic made up for that.

I never really got into Reasonable Doubt or any Jay-Z but the purple tape is one of the best Hip Hop albums of all time

Yeah I agree, I don't like it as much as It Was Written or OB4CL.

On Mac Miller, download Kids and Best Day Ever, some good tracks on them.

Also, Saigon hasn't been mentioned in this thread yet. Elzhi as well. Greatest Story Never Told and Elmatic are for me are two of the best things that dropped so far this year

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[Pirate Utopian]

How do people like Casey Veggies?

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