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Alaz
25th May 2011, 02:21
Hey!

I'm from Istanbul, the cradle of the revolutionary struggle in Turkey which vitalized with the blood gushing out of tens of thousands of nameless men and women from all ages and all nationalities.

I salute you, with the glowing memories of martyrs!

This is all for now.

Sasha
25th May 2011, 02:40
welcome! did you see that there is an turkish sub-forum?



In the cities, the one of the Marxist-Leninist groups is still sustaining the urban guerilla warfare. For the record, this group has the widest mass potential after Communist Party of Turkey.

i assume you are refering here to DHKC/P (former DevSol)?

considering the illegality of devsol i wont inquest whether you are an member but can you say vaguely where are you yourself in the tukish radical left political spectrum? the maoist? Kurdish/PKK. anarchist or more towards devsol as your name seems to imply?

red cat
25th May 2011, 02:43
Welcome to RevLeft comrade. From your analysis it seems that you are ideologically a Marxist-Leninist yourself ?

Alaz
25th May 2011, 02:59
welcome! did you see that there is an turkish sub-forum?




i assume you are refering here to DHKC/P (former DevSol)?

considering the illegality of devsol i wont inquest whether you are an member but can you say vaguely where are you yourself in the tukish radical left political spectrum? the maoist? Kurdish/PKK. anarchist or more towards devsol as your name seems to imply?

Thanks. I did, but i guess it is not an active group.

I guess you're familiar to the movement from Holland. Yes, I was referring to that group.

And I'm not a Maoist or a Kurdish Patriot; if that answers your question.

It's interesting that you know the former name of the movement. How come?

Alaz
25th May 2011, 03:00
Welcome to RevLeft comrade. From your analysis it seems that you are ideologically a Marxist-Leninist yourself ?

Thank you.

With my modest wishes, yes I call myself a Marxist-Leninist.

Nolan
25th May 2011, 03:28
Welcome!

Sasha
25th May 2011, 11:54
Thanks. I did, but i guess it is not an active group.

I guess you're familiar to the movement from Holland. Yes, I was referring to that group.

And I'm not a Maoist or a Kurdish Patriot; if that answers your question.

It's interesting that you know the former name of the movement. How come?

i knew some peope involved with the Özgürlük press agency, while now an almost exclusive anarchist movement when i came into the dutch squatters movement 15 years ago there was still quite some support for- and contact with prisoner support groups from devsol, pflp and eta.
the hungerstrikes in 2001 where a big thing here, also because they tied in with our campaing against the spanish FIES isolation prison system. With AFA we also researched and campaigned a lot around the infiltration of greywolves in dutch politics so when an solidarity hungerstrike in front of the dutch parliament got attacked by greywolves and an turkish comrade got killed, together with other AFA militants i was one of the few white people on the remembrance demonstration.

Alaz
26th May 2011, 04:42
Interesting. Özgürlük Press Agency is still connected to the movement.

Cafer Dereli was the name of the comrade killed by the fascists. He will be remembered together with the 122 death fast martyrs in Great Resistance(2000-2007).

I'm glad that you were there for us. Thanks.

gypsylinda
29th May 2011, 01:33
Merhaba! Nasilsiniz?

(I speak a little Turkish; I lived in Istanbul for a while).

Greetings to you! I know the poverty and oppression in your country and the corrupt capitalist regimes that prop it up.

Memnum oldum! (Means "pleased to meet you" in English; merhaba is hello and nasilsiniz means how are you?)

MarxSchmarx
29th May 2011, 06:18
Approximately there are 150 groups in the broad left. The number may seem ridiculously too much; but many of these group still exist in few. Most of these groups call themselves Marxist-Leninist.


Is this just in Istanbul or in all of TUrkey? How are you and your comrades struggling against such sectarianism.

Tesukkur!

Alaz
30th May 2011, 05:00
Merhaba! Nasilsiniz?

(I speak a little Turkish; I lived in Istanbul for a while).

Greetings to you! I know the poverty and oppression in your country and the corrupt capitalist regimes that prop it up.

Memnum oldum! (Means "pleased to meet you" in English; merhaba is hello and nasilsiniz means how are you?)

İyiyim, siz nasilsiniz? (Fine, how are you?)

Ben de memnun oldum. (I'm nice to meet you too.) Why were you in Turkey anyway?

You're right about the poverty and the oppression. In my humble opinion, on the 12th of June, the dominant clique (AKP) will declare its victory and then with the decline of the density of the struggle between the two sides of the oligarchy, more oppressive and violent measures will be launched.

Alaz
30th May 2011, 05:10
Not all have branchs or state of organizations across the country.

I belive there are no subjective conditions for these groups to get together when some choose to fight against fascism with weapons and some with slogans, but the connective core of the armed struggle quite helps avoiding sectarianism time to time.

And for some of the groups who had chosen to support fascism such as DSIP, (Socialist Workers Movement's branch) I personally tend to get much secterian to end their existence.

Rica Ederim. ( You're welcome!)

gypsylinda
30th May 2011, 15:58
I was teaching English to foreign students.

Let's hope the Turkish people can be one of the first to throw off their chains!

t.shonku
30th May 2011, 19:32
Hey!

I'm from Istanbul, the cradle of the revolutionary struggle in Turkey which vitalized with the blood gushing out of tens of thousands of nameless men and women from all ages and all nationalities.

I salute you, with the glowing memories of martyrs!

Some of you may not be familiar to the objective conditions of a Middle Eastern country or the struggle methods which are in use. Or maybe, some arrogantly say that this is a 'victim literature'. I respect the both. Still, my only concern is to reflect the facts, but only the facts because the facts are revolutionary. Nothing else.

Basically, I'm going to start with the substructure of the country without detailing it. Here in Turkey, both the feudalism and the capitalism can be witnessed across the country. Especially, feudalism in North Kurdistan and pervasive capitalist economic relations in the west side of the country. At the final analysis, the feudalism itself is a microeconomic fact which in real has no independency from the general economic status. The main conflict is in capitalist basis.

On the other hand, superstructurally as an Islamic society, both Turkish and Kurdish people are in dilemma between 'the new' and 'the old'

Approximately there are 150 groups in the broad left. The number may seem ridiculously too much; but many of these group still exist in few. Most of these groups call themselves Marxist-Leninist.

Currently, there are 3 parties sustaining the war in mountains with guerilla warfare methods. One of these parties is PKK (Kurdistan Worker's Party) as known as the Kurdish National Movement. The other two groups are the Maoist parties who look much like the same from outside. Over 20 years these two Maoist parties shared the same praxis, but in 1994 they permanently got separated. Both of them have guerillas in symbolic numbers. Kurdish National Movement has approximately 5,000 guerillas all over the territory.

In the cities, the one of the Marxist-Leninist groups is still sustaining the urban guerilla warfare. For the record, this group has the widest mass potential after Communist Party of Turkey.

Rest of the groups drifted through reformism, revisionism, parlimenterism and liquidation.

This is all for now.


Welcome Comrade ! :)


It's nice to know that our Marxist-Leninist comrades are doing good in cities and they have mass support, can you post some pictures or give us some article about the guerrilla activities there?