Fidel Castro: "Will NATO Bomb Spain???"

[Rakhmetov]

Before people begin calling Castro derange and senile, let us remember he foretold NATO's bombing of Lybia for the oil (for which he was labeled crazy and insane by many leftists).

http://www.counterpunch.com/castro05232011.html

http://www.marxist.com/spanish-elections-and-revolutionary-movement.htm

[Cleansing Conspiratorial Revolutionary Flame]

Spain however unlike Libya is a member of NATO and a member of the European Union that has continually been allowed by its European neighbors to engage in political repression as it represents the aspirations of the bourgeois.

Quite honestly though, how can NATO invade Spain when Spain is a member of NATO?

[LewisQ]

He's just highlighting, ironically, the natural reaction of the empire to anything which threatens its power. I don't think he's seriously suggesting that NATO will bomb Spain. Suspect it's clearer in the original Spanish.

[robbo203]

Before people begin calling Castro derange and senile, let us remember he foretold NATO's bombing of Lybia for the oil (for which he was labeled crazy and insane by many leftists).

http://www.counterpunch.com/castro05232011.html

http://www.marxist.com/spanish-elections-and-revolutionary-movement.htm



Oh Pleeeezzz. Give us a break. The man has evidently lost touch with reality completely if he seriously imagines for one moment that such a scenario is remotely possible. And with the PP poised to take power at the next election? Not that Zapatero capitalist government has done anything to seriously incur the wrath of NATO that i know of.

The link to the Movement for Real Demoacracy offers a rather poor analysis of the situation based more on wishful thinking than hard analysis. While in many ways it is a welcome development - like thousands of others in Spain I partipated in the marches on 15 May - but by no stretch of the imagination can it be called a revolutionary movement in the sense of wanting to overthrow capitalism

[Rakhmetov]

Oh Pleeeezzz. Give us a break. The man has evidently lost touch with reality completely if he seriously imagines for one moment that such a scenario is remotely possible. And with the PP poised to take power at the next election? Not that Zapatero capitalist government has done anything to seriously incur the wrath of NATO that i know of.

The link to the Movement for Real Demoacracy offers a rather poor analysis of the situation based more on wishful thinking than hard analysis. While in many ways it is a welcome development - like thousands of others in Spain I partipated in the marches on 15 May - but by no stretch of the imagination can it be called a revolutionary movement in the sense of wanting to overthrow capitalism

Beware. You know that Latin term from ancient times:

Littera scripta manet (The written word remains).

When it comes to pass and NATO does invades Spain, I'm going to necro this post and pester you with it.

[Nothing Human Is Alien]

The man has evidently lost touch with reality completely if he seriously imagines for one moment that such a scenario is remotely possible.

His point was that the attacks on Libya actually have nothing to do with the Gaddafi regime's treatment toward people there. That's just a pretense. If the U.S. was going to bomb every country where the government attacks protests, they'd have to hit Spain if the mass demos currently going on there progress any further.

It usually helps to actually read what's written before going off on it.

[MaximMK]

You can expect anything from NATO. They even sometimes bomb "by mistake"

[Spartacus.]

Oh Pleeeezzz. Give us a break. The man has evidently lost touch with reality completely if he seriously imagines for one moment that such a scenario is remotely possible.


Really? Could you then explain me what were the US aircraft carriers doing of the coast of Portugal in 1974, after the overthrow of the fascist regime? Making friendly exercises? :)

The possibility of US bombing Spain, its "ally", now seems as a distant dream, but we shouldn't forget that the Talibans, Saddam, Noriega and others were also once upon a time their friends, yet they were still bombed to pieces. How dare you question the ideas and thoughts of Fidel Castro, no matter how silly and unprobable they may sound? :D

[robbo203]

His point was that the attacks on Libya actually have nothing to do with the Gaddafi regime's treatment toward people there. That's just a pretense. If the U.S. was going to bomb every country where the government attacks protests, they'd have to hit Spain if the mass demos currently going on there progress any further.

It usually helps to actually read what's written before going off on it.

I did, though I dont recall it mentioning the Gaddafi regime's treatment of people there - are we talking about the same article? It ended instead

There is one question that has to be asked almost immediately: what is going to happen in Spain where crowds are protesting in the country’s main cities against the unemployment of 40% of the young people, just to quote one of the causes of the demonstrations of that fighting people? Could it be perhaps that they are going to start bombing that NATO country?
(Will NATO Start Bombing Spain?The Unsustainable Position of the Empire By FIDEL CASTRO)


Absolute bonkers if you ask me. Point is the US doesnt "bomb every country where the government attacks protests" Its highly selective. Crackdowns on pro-democratic supporters in Saudi Arabia or the Gulf states are conveniently ignored or played down. It depends on the country itself. So Castro's line of argument is just silly and inane

More so when it comes to Spain. There is a little thing called "realpolitick" that gets in the way, you know ...

like the fact that Spain is in NATO
like the fact that Spain is in the EU
like the fact that Spain is not some relatively small third world country
like the fact that the right wing PP is poised to take over from the PSOE as the next governement of Spain (though either would be acceptable from the point of view of NATO and the US)

So come on - get a grip FFS

As for the demonstrations sweeping Spain unlike some of the armchair strategists here, I have have actually participated in them. (I live in Spain afterall!) While the Movement for Real Democracy is a welcome development in many ways, it is not some kind of revolutionary movement intent upon overthowing capitalism. Anyone who thinks that it is is daydreaming

[Nothing Human Is Alien]

http://www.csus.edu/owl/images/gif_files/rhetoric.gif

[robbo203]

http://www.csus.edu/owl/images/gif_files/rhetoric.gif

Yes very droll...

But there's good rhetoric and there's some pretty dumb rhetoric and this example clearly falls under the latter

[pranabjyoti]

He actually want to mean AS PER ANNOUNCED POLICY OF NATO, THEY SHOULD BOMB SPAIN NOW. But the question is do they follow their own announced policy? We all know the answer well. Those announcements are nothing but a thin veil to cover their vested economic/business interest i.e. interest of the multinational companies.
This statement is nothing but to point out the cheating of NATO i.e. imperialism.

[Crux]

Beware. You know that Latin term from ancient times:

Littera scripta manet (The written word remains).

When it comes to pass and NATO does invades Spain, I'm going to necro this post and pester you with it.
Can't wait. :laugh:

[punisa]

If communists would make a revolution in Spain... yeah, they would bomb them.
Lucky for NATO, there is no sight of communism in this square squatting.