Proletarian demographic minorities (Third World) and intra-class authoritarianism

[Die Neue Zeit]

Elsewhere (http://www.revleft.com/vb/mission-impossible-explaining-t153130/index.html) I wrote of the need for proletarian demographic minorities (like those in much or most of the Third World) to have their class-based independent political organization exist in a National/Pan-National Petit-Bourgeois framework of managed democracy that incorporates urban petit-bourgeois democratism of things like full communal power and also the peasant patrimonialism of military culture under, to paraphrase the German socialist Ferdinand Lassalle, a "social[ly radical] and [politically] revolutionary people's [elected, non-hereditary, de facto] monarchy."

However, this progressive authoritarianism is in relation to other classes. I did not write about historical episodes of vertical power charisma and broader historical authoritarianism within worker-class movements and how they relate to Third situations today or, to be more exact, the extent to which the proletarian demographic minorities are in need of them (certainly the former, uncertain on the latter).

So, to what extent are such needed, from the "future workers dictator" Ferdinand Lassalle himself and immediate successor Johann "Democratic Centralization" Von Schweitzer to the SPD's tragic one-man management schemes for its institutions of alternative culture (http://books.google.ca/books?id=5kkQyWIFCbIC&pg=PA50&dq=spd+discipline+choir&hl=en&ei=QMTaTZWKOs_PiAKWwsiCCA&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=1&ved=0CCoQ6AEwAA#v=onepage&q=spd%20discipline%20choir&f=false) (Lidtke) to working-class examples of Soviet disciplinarianism (http://www.revleft.com/vb/class-never-ruled-t154771/index.html) (Party secretaries Lazar Kaganovich, Frol Kozlov, Dmitri Ustinov, Andrei Kirilenko, and Yuri Andropov, Soviet ice hockey authoritarian Viktor Tikhonov (http://www.revleft.com/vb/coachism-alternative-vanguardism-t120638/index.html), etc.) to "King Arthur" Scargill?

[Jose Gracchus]

You really have contempt for working-class self-emancipation. Really? When is 'authoritarianism' within the class acceptable? Who is administering it? Surely not the working class itself.

[Die Neue Zeit]

You really have contempt for working-class self-emancipation. Really? When is 'authoritarianism' within the class acceptable? Who is administering it? Surely not the working class itself.

Is it acceptable yet tragic when said authoritarianism is compatible with independent working-class political organization, as Lassalle, however flawed, demonstrated (and German Social Democracy applied it to a proletarian demographic majority, too)? :(

[Cleansing Conspiratorial Revolutionary Flame]

Authoritarianism against members of the Working Class, from the Working Class is unacceptable if you're referring to an actual form of Authoritarian Rule. What must occur however is an abstract Authoritarianism, where there is no actual Authoritative Rule from a single individual, but instead there is a rule from a Socialist Constitution that is upheld by the Working Class in order to keep a newly founded Workers State together, the constitution IE: Serves as revolutionary glue when it is given authority and held as a document that is to be continually upheld with no being infallible compared to it. Which literally means-- That no being in a Constitutional Socialist Republic is to be above it and the converse is no being in a Socialist Republic is to be below it either at the same time.

Is it acceptable yet tragic when said authoritarianism is compatible with independent working-class political organization, as Lassalle, however flawed, demonstrated (and German Social Democracy applied it to a proletarian demographic majority, too)? :(
:lol: Authoritarianism is compatible with nearly anything, the question is-- Is the Authoritarianism necessary however. To which, as I previously said, in the sense that you're referring to it as being direct literal authoritarianism, I would say no. However the need for some document to serve in this manner, I would respond yes.