Rick Santorum: Nutcase

[MattShizzle]

http://www.alan.com/2009/08/13/rick-santorum-took-dead-baby-home-to-meet-family/

This guy is one of the far-right's candidates for president:


For example, Santorum has six children. In 1996, he had son born prematurely who lived for only two hours. He and wife brought the child home and introduced the dead infant to the rest of their children as ‘your brother Gabriel’ and slept with the body overnight.”

Indeed, the Washington Post reported this (http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A61804-2005Apr17.html) in 2005.

Upon their son’s death, Rick and Karen Santorum opted not to bring his body to a funeral home. Instead, they bundled him in a blanket and drove him to Karen’s parents’ home in Pittsburgh. There, they spent several hours kissing and cuddling Gabriel with his three siblings, ages 6, 4 and 1 1/2. They took photos, sang lullabies in his ear and held a private Mass.

This guy belongs in a mental hospital, not public office.

[GPDP]

I have no words to describe how this makes me feel.

[Property Is Robbery]

Santorum: "frothy mixture of lube (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Personal_lubricant) and fecal matter (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Feces) that is sometimes the byproduct (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Byproduct) of anal sex (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anal_sex),"


eww

[PhoenixAsh]

This is extreme....

BUT...

...if you have ever had a child die...you would not dismiss this behaviour so rapidly as crazy. I had several friends whose child died shortly after birth or a month or so before birth...the trauma that leaves in incedible. And the ones who did something like this (take the child home for a day)...actually were less affected by the trauma and lived through it more easy. They actually had less of a problem to overcome the grieve.

So...yes...this is extreme...but I would not dismiss a person over this. His political opinions are a far more legitimate target for that.

[MattShizzle]

His political opinions are pretty horrible.

[Property Is Robbery]

...if you have ever had a child die...you would not dismiss this behaviour so rapidly as crazy. I had several friends whose child died shortly after birth or a month or so before birth...the trauma that leaves in incedible.
I get that. I have a very close friend who this happened too. However, I feel like the horrible part of this is that he went home and "introduced" the fetus to his children. That had to be fucking traumatic for them.

[RadioRaheem84]

Introducing the fetus to the kids is mental, not the expression of mourning the kids loss.

What we are dealing with is the typical proto-type of the far right religious zealot in your average American home.

They're weird!

[Rakhmetov]

http://www.alan.com/2009/08/13/rick-santorum-took-dead-baby-home-to-meet-family/

This guy is one of the far-right's candidates for president:



This guy belongs in a mental hospital, not public office.

Santorum's actions seem to me to be right-wing street theater so he can flash his "pro-life" credentials to the Evangelical, anti-abortion constituency. And also is actions are so hypocritical!!!!! Would he spend several hours kissing and cuddling Iraqi civilians with his three siblings that have been killed by the U.S. military???? I think not. He is a repugnant figure.

[PhoenixAsh]

I get that. I have a very close friend who this happened too. However, I feel like the horrible part of this is that he went home and "introduced" the fetus to his children. That had to be fucking traumatic for them.

I don't know.

Kids have to learn to deal with death sometime. It all depends how involved they were in the pregnancy and how this was handled. The eldest son of one of my friends refers to his still born sister as his sister. Meeting her was not traumatic to him at all...he was five at the time....and he understands perfectly.

[PhoenixAsh]

Everybody deals with grieve differently. You can not judge on that. Also there is no proof this traumatised or should traumatise children at all. I do not think its insane perse (though this case is extreme) and I would not dismiss it. The baby was wanted, they wanted the baby and to them it was real, a real person. Which is a legitimate position and choice...

Also...its born. So its not a fetus anymore...its by its definition a baby.

[Sasha]

you heard how he just dismissed john mccains critique on torture with "john mccain doesnt understand how torture works" :crying:
me think that torture is one of the few subjects mccain is an undisputed expert on.
this guy is an trainwreck.

also, rick santorum (http://www.spreadingsantorum.com/)

[Johnny Kerosene]

According to Wikipedia his Father and his Grandmother were immigrants from Italy, and he's opposed to amnesty for illegal immigrants.

[agnixie]

According to Wikipedia his Father and his Grandmother were immigrants from Italy, and he's opposed to amnesty for illegal immigrants.

I don't see how that should necessarily tie. Scalia's parents were italian immigrants and virulent fascists.

[Chambered Word]

Introducing the fetus to the kids is mental, not the expression of mourning the kids loss.

What we are dealing with is the typical proto-type of the far right religious zealot in your average American home.

They're weird!

This is pretty fucking judgemental, what is wrong with you?

Anyway apparently Santorum is an asshole, and this was definately a weird thread, but I don't see the political relevance. People do really strange shit when they're grieving, I'm going to leave it at that.