Feeling Exploited

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I hate waking up everyday and coming home knowing there is more toil on the way. I make $12,000 a year, and im working full time, @ $4 ABOVE national minimum wage.. there has to be a better way..

Not to sound like I'm whining, but I'm feeling destraut. Should I Just go on working ? making less than enough to survive and feed my children? and just continue to doing this? I have no capital, nothing to sell but my labor.. I feel empty..

anyone in a similar position or feeling, and if anyone has overcome this position I'd love to hear about it..

[UnionofSovietSocialistRepublics]

I reckon half the people on ere are in a similar position, i think its what makes people wake up and realise that things r'nt so gr8 the way they are.

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so what are we going to do?
just keep working?

"Words that do not match deeds are unimportant"

[-JakeH-]

Originally posted by Red [email protected] 2 2003, 09:46 PM
so what are we going to do?
just keep working?

"Words that do not match deeds are unimportant"
I feel your pain. Not only am I a corporate tool, but I work with technology to help put Americans out of work and to exploit third world labor, how do ya think I feel? I actually contribute to the system to an extreme extent. Damn, it sucks to be a tool.

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so what should we do? are we just gonna waste away like this?

[-JakeH-]

Originally posted by Red [email protected] 2 2003, 09:59 PM
so what should we do? are we just gonna waste away like this?
I don't know about you, but I'm not. I don't know what you will do, though you do have many options before you. I am going to school, and I am being educated simply so that I can become a teacher. Corrupted and fucked up educational practices in America is what makes these people so irreversable ignorant, this is what I seek to change.

Other than that the only thing I can think of is a revolutionary, unfortunately that would bring almost immediate death in this society, as most people are opposed to such ideas.

Edit: Also, get communism involved in your community. I frequent many community chat boards and bust out the communist lecture, it works well sometimes, horribly other times.

[X JoeyNormal X]

You have a fucking computer. You are not poor, nor exploited. Be glad you don't work on an EPZ in the sweatshop belt...

...that's desperation. You're not revolutionary, just whining. :P

[UnionofSovietSocialistRepublics]

I am going to school, and I am being educated simply so that I can become a teacher. Corrupted and fucked up educational practices in America is what makes these people so irreversable ignorant, this is what I seek to change.
Ah your saying you can enlighten people and hopefully give them a good shot in life even though they are in public education? Thats very honourable.

[RevolucioN NoW]

As a means of avoiding the exploitation of the corporate system i was going to study journalism and go freelance, travel the world and shit, mabye a far fetched dream but even so.

As I see it you have two options, either you keep working, even if it is a shitty job or you starve. you could try unemployment benifits depending on your country.

We are all in the same boat, as a casual i have no 'base hours' every week and wait in anguish for next weeks roster, this week i got 4 hours. At least i still live at home, if not i would be up shit creek.


You have a fucking computer. You are not poor, nor exploited. Be glad you don't work on an EPZ in the sweatshop belt...

...that's desperation. You're not revolutionary, just whining.

Very true, however that depends on circumstance. id say that 12,000 a year in a developed country would count as bellow the poverty line, just as 20c an hour would be the same in China.

[Crypticchronoclasm]

I work as a care assistant which is just above min-wage, I am able to make peoples lives slightly better but at least i am not stacking shelves in a supermarket

That gets me through the day.

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[truthaddict11]

but at least i am not stacking shelves in a supermarket

what the hell is that supposed to mean!?

[Invader Zim]

Originally posted by [email protected] 3 2003, 02:56 PM

but at least i am not stacking shelves in a supermarket

what the hell is that supposed to mean!?
It seams self explainitory to me?, it means he doesnt want to work in Tesco's or Safeways... I agree with him, my cousin worked for tesco's and he hated it, it even gave him back problems.

[truthaddict11]

i think it is offensive because I work in a grocery store and his attidude towards it makes it seem that its a demeaning job to him

[RED FIRE]

Join the "club" that has millions in "Membership",comrade
-the Exploited-

[Lefty]

My family is rich. My dad makes something like $80,000 a year, and we have a BMW and an Audi. I don't know what to do to keep from feeling like a hypocrite when I talk about the exploited masses and such, because it's people like the people I love that exploit them. By the way, my dad works in the medical field and worked as a paramedic for almost 20 years, and climbed the management chain until he got to his current position. Capitalism at work, I guess...

[Rastafari]

Lefty, no time, no see.

Anyway, I am in a somewhat similar position (Middle Class) but I think it is important to remember that quite a few revolutionaries come from well-to-do families, even those who aren't the RATM ROCKS wannabees.
I think it was very brave of you to come out and say this here, my friend.

Which reminds me of point #2. How can you be a proletariot and be a Republican? Thats where they claim a large percentage of their votes, btw, and it has always mystified me (I guess its the whole "Christ" thing that draws them in...)

[UnionofSovietSocialistRepublics]

Lefty Posted on Oct 8 2003, 02:56 AM
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My family is rich. My dad makes something like $80,000 a year, and we have a BMW and an Audi. I don't know what to do to keep from feeling like a hypocrite when I talk about the exploited masses and such, because it's people like the people I love that exploit them. By the way, my dad works in the medical field and worked as a paramedic for almost 20 years, and climbed the management chain until he got to his current position. Capitalism at work, I guess...
lefty, youre not hypocritical, youre unusual though in the sense that most people raised like you are very much pro cappie. Its very good to see someone like yourself, as you clearly favour helping others over getting more luxuries for yourself, and you have aknowledged that people are being exploited.
Fidel Castro was came from a very wealthy upbringing, and trained to be a lawyer!

[RedAnarchist]

Even though my dad is a postman and only gets about £20, 000 per annum (about $16, 500) and he has to provide for a family of seven, we are not poor in my opinion.
You let the cappies win when you whine. You defeat them by doing something, not just talking about it.

[UnionofSovietSocialistRepublics]

XPhile2868 £20,000 is about $35,000, not $16500

[suffianr]

XPhile2868 £20,000 is about $35,000, not $16500

35,000.00 USD = 133,015.77 MYR (Malaysian Ringgit)

You'd be upper middle-class if you were in Kuala Lumpur!

[CompadreGuerrillera]

my family is also middle class, as well, in fact half of the middle class(lower middle) will join our side in the revolution, as the situation increases, besides the middle class will be necessary for a revoluiton in the US

[Urban Rubble]

I guess my family is middle class. But my dad didn't earn his money from exploitation of anyone. He worked as an elctrician from the time he was 20 to now (46). He busted his ass for years for a company and then was fired. He got a small business loan and started his own electrical business. He only employed 1 guy for like 5 years, then he quit. Now my older friend works with him, he's been doing it for 4 years, and I work with them.

I only make $9 and hour, but I don't know how to do it all. I don't know what I am going to do with my life because I don't really have the opporunity to go to college. The thought of doing this bullshit 50 hours a week for the rest of my life horrifies me. I worry about it everyday.

[RedAnarchist]

In the UK £20, 000 per annum is not much.

I must have mixed up the exchange rate when i looked it up.

In the UK, i would be considered working class, and that is a fact i'm proud of.

[provocateur]

I'm unemployed and if I get any job that is available I'll be underemployed----that's how things stand.