Alex Jones

[tradeunionsupporter]

What does everyone here think of Alex Jones ?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alex_Jones_(radio_host)

[#FF0000]

Dude's pretty much crazy.

[MattShizzle]

Yes, he's both a lunatic and a reactionary. Not worth our time.

[ZombieRothbard]

Fake libertarian that makes the more rational among us look ridiculous.

[MattShizzle]

Being a rational Libertarian is kind of like being a skinny Sumo.

[agnixie]

Proto fascist, if not outright fascist. Also completely bonkers.

[TheCultofAbeLincoln]

I really really really don't get the conspiracy theories. Like some day the curtain is going to come off and reveal to the world that the planet is being run by a dozen men (or robots or aliens or reptilian overlords).

It's such a load of croc that distracts people from the fact that as long as they open up their eyes they'll see the big conspiracy that is right out there in the fucking open. That during a time of mass foreclosure we have record numbers of homeless people. That during a time of high unemployment the governmenyt is cutting thousands of jobs and unemployment benefits while the cost of living creeps ever higher. That during a time of record profits for a very select group of corporations we are spending more and more of our lives struggling just to get the fuck by. That during a time when the rich have never been wealthier, or controlled so much, most of our problems are being blamed on illegal immigrants by the very same disgusting class of people. That endless, perpetual, asinine warfare is being waged the world over in the name of peace....

The list goes on and on and on, my point is that jones and his 9/11 truthers and NWO types are a ridiculous bunch of fools that would rather search for aliens than real answers.

[Revolution starts with U]

I thought Alex was pretty cool in the film Waking Life, tho I wasn't half as politically aware as I am now. There are other things that I thought were cool about him; like when he went to a police checkpoint and sat on the sidelines taunting the police, calling them gestappo and stuff :laugh: I also liked when he broke into the Bilderberg compound :tt2:

But yeah, his politics other than that are pretty much attrocious. At the least reactionary, at most crypto fascist.

[agnixie]

I thought Alex was pretty cool in the film Waking Life, tho I wasn't half as politically aware as I am now. There are other things that I thought were cool about him; like when he went to a police checkpoint and sat on the sidelines taunting the police, calling them gestappo and stuff :laugh: I also liked when he broke into the Bilderberg compound :tt2:

But yeah, his politics other than that are pretty much attrocious. At the least reactionary, at most crypto fascist.

I heard there was a DJ here who played him for comic relief :p

[danyboy27]

a new word should be invented to explain how creazy this guy is.

and i shall create this word; inAlexjonespiracysane

[CleverTitle]

Alex Jones is hilarious.

[Ocean Seal]

No guise, he completely nailed us on the FEMA camps which were starting up pretty soon and the 80% of people that the liberal fascists are going to kill. They just want to defame him because without him the big brother owned media will be able to commence mind control experiments.

[Rooster]

He's a pain the ass. I can't search for documentaries on google without his crap cluttering up the place. Him and David Icke.

[Sperm-Doll Setsuna]

No guise, he completely nailed us on the FEMA camps which were starting up pretty soon and the 80% of people that the liberal fascists are going to kill. They just want to defame him because without him the big brother owned media will be able to commence mind control experiments.

He also got us and our good communist friend Gorbachev cornered about land-grabs by establishing natural parks and us being rich capitalists buying up port facilities and something. :laugh:

[Drosophila]

Batshit insane.

[reformnow88]

Alex jones is totally insane he claims the government lines juice boxes with estrogen to make kids gay or some crazy shit hes just another right wing nut job fascist

[lines]

He has some good information exposing the dangers of water fluoridation. He also has some good information on the bilderberg group. The soviet union was very concerned about the bilderberg group, the bilderberg group is basically a yearly gathering of capitalist politicians and corporate leaders to discuss certain agendas they want to focus on. Alex Jones also exposes police brutality.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bilderberg_Group
Alex Jones does have a significant amount of views I disagree with though.

[RedSunRising]

Fake libertarian that makes the more rational among us look ridiculous.

Why do you say he is a fake libertarian?

Anyway he got owned in an argument with some Maoist Third Worldists and proceeded to start shouting at them. A total scumbag who whips up the gullible into hysteria. Could possibly be quite dangerous in days to come.

http://raimd.wordpress.com/2008/08/28/alex-jones-a-ranting-white-populist-crackpot-with-a-fan-base/

http://raimd.wordpress.com/2008/09/02/alex-jones-nervous-breakdown/

[L.A.P.]

Anyway he got owned in an argument with some Maoist Third Worldists and proceeded to start shouting at them. A total scumbag who whips up the gullible into hysteria. Could possibly be quite dangerous in days to come.

http://raimd.wordpress.com/2008/08/28/alex-jones-a-ranting-white-populist-crackpot-with-a-fan-base/

http://raimd.wordpress.com/2008/09/02/alex-jones-nervous-breakdown/

It says a lot when you're so crazy and reactionary that you get completely owned by a completely crazy reactionary.

[Die Rote Fahne]

Alex Jones is the leader man, of the Free Mason Illuminati man...you don't even know man...he makes us look crazy, but in reality, he did 9/11 mannnnn....hired by bush to make the conspriacy sound nuts mannn, but we are on to him mannnnnn

[cop an Attitude]

One stone throw away from a tinfoil hat

[jake williams]

I'm not going to talk about Alex Jones in particular, but about the general crowd who shares his general beliefs. I think as an individual, he 'believes' whatever sells ads on his radio show and memberships to his website, both of which he sells enough to do pretty well for himself (if he isn't being funded by anyone with more explicit political goals, which isn't inconceivable).

A FB friend of mine once took a straw poll. Who has a more rational view of the world - 'conspiracy theorists', or anti-oppression-educated student activists? I answered, unequivocably, the former. 'Conspiracy theorists' typically believe that a small group of people control most of the world for their own personal profit at the expense of the majority of the public. In this, they're totally correct.

It's actually easier to list what they tend to get wrong:

1) Most importantly, class society isn't new - it didn't start in 1962, the 'Founding Fathers' weren't against it, etc.

2) Related to 1), class society isn't a product of individual sadism, Judaism etc., but is the consequence of the dynamics of production.

3) Related to 2), the actual practice of class rule isn't as personalized or institutionalized as they tend to believe. Coordinating the interests of the ruling class is difficult, and while not exactly done in public, it's not done very secretly - you can see it going on at public universities you can just walk into, you can see it being done in business newspapers you can find in convenience stores, and so on. Sometimes though, of course, it does go on in private.

4) Related to 3), the ruling class's power isn't as total or deep as they tend to brag about. You can have terrorist attacks that are actually initiated by individuals or non-state actors. I've seen conspiracy theory videos and websites citing leaders basically bragging as evidence - but it's often evidence more of hubris than of practice.


Those things are all important, but it's a fairly short list. You watch an average Alex Jones video, he's right about 60 or 80% of the time, and he's the only person saying it for a lot of his audience. The fact that we're not reaching his audience is our own problem.

To be really honest, the thing that strikes me the most about a lot of conspiracy theories is that they sound so surprised. But that (as well as the above list) is a product of lack of historical and political education, something we usually don't do much to fix, and which liberals actively undermine.

[Thug Lessons]

bHVTJtDZSe8

[Tomhet]

He's pretty absurd, but a decent entertainer I suppose..

[hatzel]

I don't even know who this guy is because I'm not American and I don't care about crazy weird American people who have no impact on my life but from what I've read in this thread he sounds kinda funny so I'm not surprised lines had a few good words to say about him...

[Hebrew Hammer]

What do I think of Jones? He's a fucking moron/nutter.

[ImStalinist]

Proto fascist, if not outright fascist. Also completely bonkers.
His policies and the policies of the Tea Party right libertarians mainstream Republicans also seem to be fascist. He isn't bonkers, he is trying make a buck off of you.

[~Spectre]

Why do you say he is a fake libertarian?

Anyway he got owned in an argument with some Maoist Third Worldists and proceeded to start shouting at them. A total scumbag who whips up the gullible into hysteria. Could possibly be quite dangerous in days to come.

http://raimd.wordpress.com/2008/08/28/alex-jones-a-ranting-white-populist-crackpot-with-a-fan-base/

http://raimd.wordpress.com/2008/09/02/alex-jones-nervous-breakdown/



He IS crazy, but he didn't get owned in that first video. It's a bunch of fail all around.

[Hebrew Hammer]

bHVTJtDZSe8

Psssssh, someone needs some xanies, I think the best part of that vid was the credits, lol.

[the Left™]

He's so fucking crazy I'm amazed he has an audience. Infowars.com and Alex Jones was cited in one of my friends papers-- i laughed, i cried, but mainly cried.

[seventeethdecember2016]

He gives tons of different conspiracy theories, whether true or not(they can't all be false and vice versa), while giving a lot of evidence to support his ideas. He later uses these to justify his own beliefs, and he lures people in one by one into his own ideology.

I wonder where he gets funding for his movies.:confused:

[Tychus]

He has the most annoying voice and southern accent imaginable, and that alone repels me from listening to anything he has to say, regardless of its validity. Not to mention his frequent infantile, childish tantrums. Alex Jones show blows cock.

[rylasasin]

He's even sadder than Ghost of True Crapitalist Radio.

[R_P_A_S]

I'm not going to talk about Alex Jones in particular, but about the general crowd who shares his general beliefs. I think as an individual, he 'believes' whatever sells ads on his radio show and memberships to his website, both of which he sells enough to do pretty well for himself (if he isn't being funded by anyone with more explicit political goals, which isn't inconceivable).

A FB friend of mine once took a straw poll. Who has a more rational view of the world - 'conspiracy theorists', or anti-oppression-educated student activists? I answered, unequivocably, the former. 'Conspiracy theorists' typically believe that a small group of people control most of the world for their own personal profit at the expense of the majority of the public. In this, they're totally correct.

It's actually easier to list what they tend to get wrong:

1) Most importantly, class society isn't new - it didn't start in 1962, the 'Founding Fathers' weren't against it, etc.

2) Related to 1), class society isn't a product of individual sadism, Judaism etc., but is the consequence of the dynamics of production.

3) Related to 2), the actual practice of class rule isn't as personalized or institutionalized as they tend to believe. Coordinating the interests of the ruling class is difficult, and while not exactly done in public, it's not done very secretly - you can see it going on at public universities you can just walk into, you can see it being done in business newspapers you can find in convenience stores, and so on. Sometimes though, of course, it does go on in private.

4) Related to 3), the ruling class's power isn't as total or deep as they tend to brag about. You can have terrorist attacks that are actually initiated by individuals or non-state actors. I've seen conspiracy theory videos and websites citing leaders basically bragging as evidence - but it's often evidence more of hubris than of practice.


Those things are all important, but it's a fairly short list. You watch an average Alex Jones video, he's right about 60 or 80% of the time, and he's the only person saying it for a lot of his audience. The fact that we're not reaching his audience is our own problem.

To be really honest, the thing that strikes me the most about a lot of conspiracy theories is that they sound so surprised. But that (as well as the above list) is a product of lack of historical and political education, something we usually don't do much to fix, and which liberals actively undermine.

thanks for this. This is the type of "breakdowns" I like to read.

Let me ask you this.. what do you mean by Liberals undermining the lack of historical and political educations? should we do more to encourage this?