Why Blame the Anarchists?

[B0LSHEVIK]

Ive done heard so many ML's and other various state-communists 'blame' the anarchists for one reason or another for any past failure. I've seen them placed 'under the banner of reaction....united against us.' Why? To be a 'Bolshevik' in many of their minds requires you to be a party man in lock-step with the hierarchy/bureaucracy. But isnt socialism about freeing the masses? Not simply about handing the keys over to somebody else, at least thats what I've always thought. Does it not require a bottom-up movement, instead of say, 'a revolution from above?' But then again, a bottom up movement in say the Ol' Confederacy (the American south) could resemble Apartheid as it existed and continues to exist today. Its just a rant, dont lam-blast me.

[28350]

Ive done heard so many ML's and other various state-communists 'blame' the anarchists for one reason or another for any past failure.

Really? Because I've never heard that.

[Spawn of Stalin]

I think they make us look pretty stupid on rallies and stuff but it's not like I blame them for the rise of revisionism or the division of Korea. Come on now.

[#FF0000]

Ive done heard so many ML's and other various state-communists 'blame' the anarchists for one reason or another for any past failure

I've never heard of this either. I've heard the opposite all the time, though.

[RedHal]

nah state communists never blamed anarchists for the failures of the socialist states, they looked at them as a minor annoyance:blushing:

[hatzel]

I agree with the others in this thread: I've never known anybody to pin the blame on the anarchists. However, the way you wrote "under the banner of reaction....united against us" in the little marks suggests to me that you're quoting somebody. Want to source that quote? Because if it's just some guy on a blog (or MaoistRebelNews) then I think it's something that can be pretty easily ignored. If it was somebody half-notable, and we knew the context, we might be able to consider it more seriously. I mean, Trotsky probably said something like that about Kronstadt or whatever...

[Phonic]

it's probably the other way around, the USSR was intrumental in ending the most major anarchist actions.

[tracher999]

the only people that blame me that im a anarchist are my parents nobody els

[Obs]

Well, anarchist insistence on crushing unity did cause a lot of problems for Soviet Russia during the civil war - the insurgencies in Kronstadt and the Ukraine, for instance.

trollin' trollin' trollin'

[Thirsty Crow]

Well, anarchist insistence on crushing unity did cause a lot of problems for Soviet Russia during the civil war - the insurgencies in Kronstadt and the Ukraine, for instance.

trollin' trollin' trollin'
To conflate Kronstadt with exclusively anarchist-led activity is beyond stupid :tt2:

[Imposter Marxist]

Them pesky anarchists always deforming my workers states....

[B0LSHEVIK]

I agree with the others in this thread: I've never known anybody to pin the blame on the anarchists. However, the way you wrote "under the banner of reaction....united against us" in the little marks suggests to me that you're quoting somebody. Want to source that quote? Because if it's just some guy on a blog (or MaoistRebelNews) then I think it's something that can be pretty easily ignored. If it was somebody half-notable, and we knew the context, we might be able to consider it more seriously. I mean, Trotsky probably said something like that about Kronstadt or whatever...

Geez funny you ask for a source because I think Engles wrote that. Need a link?

Oh so ML's never knock on the anarchists, or shoot them either huh? :rolleyes:

[hatzel]

Geez funny you ask for a source because I think Engles wrote that. Need a link?

Yes, please! I don't read Engels. He sucks :lol:

[Stranger Than Paradise]

Well, anarchist insistence on crushing unity did cause a lot of problems for Soviet Russia during the civil war - the insurgencies in Kronstadt and the Ukraine, for instance.

trollin' trollin' trollin'

Keep trollin, trollin, trollin

Kronstadt sailors weren't Anarchists.