View Full Version : If Women Were In Power, Would They Make Better & Moral Leaders???
Rakhmetov
10th May 2011, 17:07
I seriously doubt they would make better or more moral leaders. That is not to say that they would make worse ones than their male counterparts either. When I think of the Hillary Clintons and Madeline Albrights of this world I shudder when I hear people saying, "If only women were in charge there'll be no more wars and injustice etc...."
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FbIX1CP9qr4
RedSonRising
10th May 2011, 17:23
I think it's safe to say one's sex doesn't determine their ability to think and act ethically. To have that assumption in the first place would demonstrate a need for a rethinking of the world and one's perspective. I agree with you-female bourgeois leaders are just as capable of reinforcing the classist status quo.
RedAnarchist
10th May 2011, 17:26
Margaret Thatcher proved that being a woman made no difference.
Sinister Cultural Marxist
10th May 2011, 17:31
Margaret Thatcher proved that being a woman made no difference.
I was about to post a picture of her :D
Well, Ill do it anyways.
http://www.topnews.in/files/Margaret-Thatcher3.jpg
Sorry, I'm sure there are some communists who will have nightmares after posting that.
jake williams
10th May 2011, 17:32
A society where women were in power on a par with men would be on where sexism really had been basically done away with. Since we don't have any examples of class society without sexism, that much might imply that such a society would not be a class society. However, it may well be that a class society can still exist without the sort of structural sexism that bars women, by and large, from positions of state and business leadership, and in such a case, there's no reason to believe that a class society led in whole or in part by women would be any less vicious.
RadioRaheem84
10th May 2011, 20:31
As Michael Parenti said, "It's not about what's between your legs but what's between your ears (mind)".
Gender makes no difference.
Class analysis wins again.
MattShizzle
10th May 2011, 21:01
As soon as I saw the thread title I was going to say not necessarily and mention MT but already too late. Well, there's also Golda Meier and Indira Ghandi.
Stranger Than Paradise
10th May 2011, 21:08
As Michael Parenti said, "It's not about what's between your legs but what's between your ears (mind)".
Gender makes no difference.
Class analysis wins again.
It's not necessarily about what's in your mind, parliamentary democracy has to ensure the future of capitalism, it doesn't matter what you believe, if you dissent companies will just invest elsewhere.
#FF0000
10th May 2011, 21:09
Margaret Thatcher. Indira Gandhi.
Nope.
Delenda Carthago
10th May 2011, 21:13
I start to think OP is fed.
PhoenixAsh
10th May 2011, 21:20
I think it doesn't make a damned bit of difference. This is not an argument however to perpetuate the current system of inequality and I for one like to see more women in meaningful power positions to break this inequality...
Admiral Swagmeister G-Funk
10th May 2011, 21:25
class, class, class. put any person in a position of power in capitalism and you will have capitalism. class is the political force, not gender.
eyedrop
10th May 2011, 22:01
A society where women were in power on a par with men would be on where sexism really had been basically done away with. Since we don't have any examples of class society without sexism, that much might imply that such a society would not be a class society. However, it may well be that a class society can still exist without the sort of structural sexism that bars women, by and large, from positions of state and business leadership, and in such a case, there's no reason to believe that a class society led in whole or in part by women would be any less vicious.
I think we could easily manage to have a capitalism with differing divisions of the working class. It's not important for capitalism that women and blacks are repressed. It's important for it that there are repressed groups, not which.
Spartacus.
10th May 2011, 22:57
I seriously doubt they would make better or more moral leaders. That is not to say that they would make worse ones than their male counterparts either. When I think of the Hillary Clintons and Madeline Albrights of this world I shudder when I hear people saying, "If only women were in charge there'll be no more wars and injustice etc...."
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FbIX1CP9qr4
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_nqTy00l5pco/TT1Wuhan3KI/AAAAAAAAAJ4/hetGy-cbi1k/s1600/irma-grese_1.jpg
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irma_Grese
Definitely NO!!!!! :)
RadioRaheem84
10th May 2011, 23:02
It's not necessarily about what's in your mind, parliamentary democracy has to ensure the future of capitalism, it doesn't matter what you believe, if you dissent companies will just invest elsewhere.
He was talking specifically about women leaders and what class power their beliefs served.
Ocean Seal
10th May 2011, 23:22
No, if we had matriarchy instead of patriarchy we'd be in the same situation. Its like saying what would the world be like if Africa had all the imperialist countries and Europe were imperialized. Would we be in a better place? No, we'd be in the same place.
A capitalist of any race, of any gender, of any nation, of any orientation is still a capitalist.
Kamos
11th May 2011, 19:26
Saying women are superior to men is just as sexist as saying men are superior to women. Not trying to threaten anyone here or something like that, it's just that there is no reason women could do the job better.
(Then again, it seems like nobody said yes to the original question, so why are we debating? =/)
We will rise again
11th May 2011, 22:24
Saying women are superior to men is just as sexist as saying men are superior to women. Not trying to threaten anyone here or something like that, it's just that there is no reason women could do the job better.
True.
Any rule demanding a min. % of women in a party or in the seats, is simply sexist. Women are no better than men, and men no better than women.
How about educating people about sexual equality instead of passing laws?
If most members of political parties are men it just means that they have more inclination to this type of job/career than women, it has nothing to do with discrimination.
gorillafuck
11th May 2011, 22:28
No. Condoleezza Rice, Thatcher, etc.
Nobody so far has disagreed so it's pretty pointless to put forward arguments though.
We will rise again
11th May 2011, 22:31
Holy crap Zeekloid thanks for f*cking up my internets :laugh:
human strike
12th May 2011, 14:24
It isn't a question of gender, it is a question of power.
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