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Ctisphonics
30th September 2003, 23:31
Okay, please don't close this one, since people are allowed to make anti-american threads with substance to it, why not the reverse. I found this on the net.
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Posted by Dharmesh on January 12, 2000 at 08:17:09:

On Eye On Asia, the first mention on Eid Day was
Eid Mubarak from Arwinder Sahota, Darshan Sahota
and co. However, on Diwali I waited almost 40
minutes watching Eye On Asia before I even heard
the word Diwali on thier program. Following post
is written by P. Persuad of Toronto.


P. Persaud (Toronto, Canada)
Canada's First Multicultural Television (CFMT) - Why is it
run by Anti-Indian Christian Zealots?

After watching Toronto's multicultural television (CFMT) over the
fall of 1999, it has become exceedingly clear that both of the
station's "South Asian" programs, South Asian Newsweek and
Bollywood Boulevard, are run by anti-Hindu Christian zealots. On
South Asian Newsweek, not only are Hindus routinely insulted,
slighted, and demeaned with impunity, but also Hinduism is
deliberately distorted and flat out lied about. Whereas, the
Christian agenda-Christian views and stories favorable to
Christians, almost always get the lion's share of any CFMT news
broadcast. This problem is multiplied when one considers that
according to Statistic Canada, 500,000 South Asians inhabit the
Greater Toronto Area (GTA), and more than 60 percent (300,000
people) of this sum are Hindus while the Christian population pales
in comparison with the minuscule sum of less than 5 percent.

And considering that in Toronto's South Asian community, for
every Christian there are at least 12 Hindus, then it is, without
question, a deliberate insult to Hindus when South Asian
Newsweek (December 26 episode) allot a total of 19 minutes to
Christmas including the unusually long seven-minute lead story.
While, on the biggest day of the year for South Asians, Diwali
(November 7th show), Hindus had to endure a frustratingly long
wait of 45 minutes, or 16 stories into the show, before the word
Diwali was ever mentioned. And when finally aired, the Diwali
story lasted for less than 2 minutes even though it featured Diwali
messages from both the mayor of Toronto and the Prime Minister
of Canada. Keep in mind, that all other mainstream news outlet
that weekend covered Diwali within the first 10 minutes of their
programs.

Still, the humiliation of Hindus did not stop there. In what first
appeared to be a goodwill gesture to Hindus turned out to be a
nasty insult in disguise. CFMT began announcing weeks in
advance, the unusual event of the broadcasting of a movie for
Diwali. But come Diwali day, it was utterly unbelievable that from
the huge stock-pile of available Hindi films, CFMT could not find
one single Hindu movie to show; instead, it chose a Christian
Indian movie, Bobbie, where all the major actors wore prominent
over sized Christian crosses. This clearly indicates the station has
not a covert but an overt Christian agenda where even the most
fair-minded and forgiving person would have to agree that CFMT
anti-Hindu/pro- Christian bias is not by accident, but by careful
design. This bias is so blatant that it's even detectable by untrained
eyes.

Bear in mind that the station's slogan is "Canada's First
Multicultural Television" or CFMT. And, contrary to the 'apparent
desires' of the producers of the South Asian programs, CFMT (or
Channel 47) was formed in accordance with the guidelines set
forth in the Canadian Multicultural policy which stipulates, among
other things, the enhancing and preserving of one's culture. This
does not include being the right arm of the Catholic Church or any
other Christian missionary organization.

Recently, the South Asian story of the week, the Southern Baptist
fiasco (where Hindus were referred to as 'Satan worshippers" and
public prayers were made in efforts to convert all 900 Million of
them on Diwali day) that made headlines all over the world,
including in major news outlet like the Washington Post. Yet
South Asian Newsweek had no coverage of this story at all.
Instead, during the same week, in the October 23 broadcast,
CFMT reported as new news, the ten-month old incident about an
Australian missionary that was killed, in January of 1999,
"reportedly" by Hindu nationalists. If this is not bias reporting, I do
not know what is.

In Canada, Hindus, struggling to preserve their heritage, are
obsessively bent on educating their children. As a result, Hindus
occupy a disproportionately high percentage of the student
enrollment at Canadian Universities and in every field of study, so
the excuse "there aren't enough qualify candidates" does not hold.
And there are many educated Hindu women and men who are
more than qualified to host South Asian Newsweek and
Bollywood Boulevard. Yet, astonishingly, CFMT could not find
one single Hindu or with similar names to anchor its 'multicultural'
shows targeted at the Indian community. Instead, names like
'Naidoo-Harris' or 'Karen Johnson' (with cross swinging from
neck) are imperialistically forced upon us. Neither are any of the
show producers-Madeline Ziniak, Suzy Soares, Stan Papulka, or
Carol Baptista, of South Asian origin. And what can be
unequivocally stated, in terms of both absolute numbers and
percentage, is that Canada's South Asian (Hindu) community has
not only more people, but also more educated people than the
communities of anyone of the producers. So, why aren't Hindus
better represented in the staffing at CFMT? Or is CFMT above
the concept of equal opportunity.

More to the point about names and perception: imagine if
Bollywood Boulevard, the show about Hindi Films, was a radio
show instead, and the face of the hostess was invisible to the
audience. Then do you think for one moment that a hand picked
person with the name "Karen Johnson" would be perceived as a
suitable host? Puleez! The audience would rightfully wonder aloud
about her ethnicity, religion, and reasons for having her as host. In
fact, during the days of radio, Karen Johnson could never have
become the host of an Indian program. The audience would simply
not buy it. And since neither her religion nor her name is indigenous
to the culture of the target audience, then the only reason she was
chosen by CFMT to host Bollywood Boulevard was because of
her race-that is, she is Indian. And this one fact shows CFMT high
contempt for Hindus who are the majority of South Asians
because, selecting a cultural spokesperson based solely on race
while ignoring her name and religion is equivalent to having a
French Catholic host a German cultural show or an Irish Catholic
being the media representative for Irish Protestants. They are all of
the same race, aren't they, but that formula would not work in
European circles and neither should CFMT try to push it down the
throat of the South Asian community. In mass communication to
specialized ethnic groups, perception is very important because
one of the first thing audiences will ask, "does she represent me-my
culture, my race, and my religion?"

Also, as is common knowledge to Indian communities in the
Diaspora, Indian Christian converts with names like 'Karen
Johnson', rarely, if ever, go to Indian movies or listen to Hindi
songs. CFMT is either completely ignorant of this fact or they are
deviously resorting to the old colonial missionary tactic-that is, "you
want the job? Then accept Christ before we accept you"-which is
a shameless display of hegemonic power. In the Canadian
Multicultural sense, Christian converts represent the weakest
segment of Indian society-that is, those not willing to enhance or
preserve their heritage and religion. In fact, many Christians would
not only never identify themselves as being Indians, but also go to
great lengths to erase all links to the Indian subcontinent, preferring
instead European music, food, and names for their kids-not exactly
the Indian community's overwhelming choice for its poster boy or
girl.

More of CFMT blatant Christian bias is illustrated in the October
9, 1999 broadcast of South Asian Newsweek. The show, taped
sometime before, when the BJP was projected to win the Indian
election, put a decidedly negative spin on the results. It claimed
that the BJP, resorted to personal attacks at Sonia Gandhi for
being a foreigner, but, strangely and conveniently, CFMT
neglected to tell the audience that Sonia is a Roman Catholic
seeking election in a land of 80 percent Hindus, that after having
lived in India for more than 2 decades, she only recently decided
to become an Indian citizen and her Hindi is atrocious, and that her
'only' qualification for the post of Prime Minister is that she has the
coveted last name, 'Gandhi', invented by her mother-in-law, Indira,
to successfully fool Indians into electing her. CFMT always gives
Sonia Gandhi favorable coverage even though the Congress Party
suffered a massive loss with her at the helm. Still the anti-Hindu
tirade continued on the same program, CFMT put on a Congress
Party supporter (but no BJP supporter) who said that now that the
election is over, he hopes that the BJP abandons its election
platform and start working on real issues. Well, elections do not
function in that way-it is the winners who get to forward their
platform and it's the losers who complain. CFMT reporting clearly
showed their dissatisfaction with the election results, which is out of
step with the Indian community here and in India, and which raises
the question, "Whom does CFMT represent?"

In the same episode, a piece was shown on an award show hosted
by an organization, EIPROC, for gifted South Asian kids. And as
the camera panned across the head table, the 14 award recipients
remained seated with their names on large cards in front of them
(the majority was Hindus, just one student had a Christian name).
And, without rolling the tapes any further you had to know that the
only person CFMT was going to select for the close up interview
would be the one and only student with a Christian name. And, lo
and behold, as suspected, the only student chosen was indeed the
one with a Christian name, Anita Jacob. At this point in time,
CFMT is so biased that they have become predictable and, though
passing themselves off as a vehicle of multiculturalism, they are
more bent on precipitating cultural erosion or rather "conversion".

Still, two other stories that same day showed CFMT pro Christian
stance. Reeling with obvious disaffection at the BJP victory, and
choosing to ignore more meaningful election issues-that is, why
people voted for the BJP, the future course of India, what Indians
expect of the BJP, CFMT instead broadcast a pathetic piece
about the difficulty the blind had in voting, as if, for some outlandish
reason, it would have affected the outcome of the election. That
was definitely scraping the bottom of the Barrel. Moreover, of all
the stories on the election, not one was positive about the victors,
the BJP, the overwhelming democratic choice of the Indian people.
The only other feature that day, concerning Hindus, was also
negative; it showed a march in Toronto, which CFMT claimed was
raising funds for alcohol, drug, and women abuse. After watching
that episode, one would think that there is nothing positive about
being Hindu. (Demoralize them about their religion and then sell
them Christianity is another favorite of missionaries.)

In the coverage of the funeral of a recent Hindu immigrant who
committed suicide and murdered his son in the process by jumping
in front of a subway train, CFMT reported the man was given a
Christian funeral because "Hindu priests do not officiate at funerals
for suicide victims". Where in the world did CFMT ever get such
nonsense?! From Christian missionary doctrine? Is there no depth
to which CFMT will sink? Did it ever occur to them to contact an
informative Hindu before making broad sweeping statements. Then
again, the dissemination of accurate information in regard to
Hinduism is not the intention of CFMT (or those of the producers
anyway).

Nowadays, South Asian Newsweek is openly used as a staging
ground for the white women agenda. Week after week, women
that have been abused by their spouses are put in front of the
camera and given extended coverage up to ten minutes at a time.
And western feminists are given ample air time even though what
they say have nothing in relation to the South Asian community.
For example, in the October 11 episode of South Asian
Newsweek, CFMT had an aging white feminist, Skye 'something
or the other', Morrison I think, comically dressed in an absurd
gown with a loose fabric clumsily wrapped around her head,
projecting incompatible western feminist views onto Bihari women,
as if her attire would make her Indian? (Indian or Bihari women
would never choose such a clown to represent them; they are still
giggling at the sight.) The only thing South Asian about that
particular piece was the accompanying film footage, apparently
shot in somewhere in India (and from the quality of the film, it was
shot sometime in the sixties), but which in no way, shape, or form,
was related to what the woman was saying. (Also, why does Joe
Doucet of the Bank of Montreal keep popping up on the program
week after week; what is so South Asian about him?).

The reason CFMT is so bankrupt for material is that all content is
filtered through its Christian sieve. Lots of worthwhile TV material,
social issues, concerts, religious functions, etc., need coverage;
they are abundantly found in South Asian community newspapers.
Publicizing these events would far better serve the community than
having, Joe Doucet or Sky 'whatever her name is' on the show.
And while on the same subject, why is there only one male
reporter on the show. CFMT would be surprised to know that the
South Asian community has an even split of male and female.

Finally, after watching just a few episodes, it is clear, to even the
most unsophisticated of viewers, that hegemonic power play is at
work at CFMT (just look at the names at the rolling of the credits
at the end of the show), which directly contravenes Canada's
official multicultural policy. Techniques employed by old Christian
Missionaries are dusted off and reused-demoralize them and their
children, mock their heritage and religion, let them know that they
will only advance (get jobs) if they accept Christ. If one scrape
away the veneer, he will see the bigotry against South Asians that
was so openly visible in Canada in the seventies and the eighties,
but still very prevalent below the surface.

Below is a contact information on CFMT:

South Asian Newsweek
595 Lakeshore Blvd. West
Toronto, Canada
M5V - 1A3

Telephone (416) 260 3620 Extension 4675
Fax: (416) 260 3621

Staff: South Asian Newsweek

Executive Producer: Madeline Ziniak
Producer: Suzy Soares
Associate Producer: Arshad Khan
Supervising Producer: Stan Papulka
News Anchor: Indira Naidoo-Harris
Reporters: Caroline Jeba; Sheetal Metha-Karia; Khush Panthaky;
Subi Vaid.
Director: Carol Baptista.
Bollywood Boulevard Host: Karen Johnson.:

In Reply to: why CFMT run by anti-Indian Christian zealots? posted by Dharmesh on January 12, 2000 at
08:17:09:

Zombie
30th September 2003, 23:33
woa big. will lead rater

Urban Rubble
30th September 2003, 23:37
Sorry dude, didn't you hear ? Canada is a perfect utopian country that has never done anything wrong. They are Socialist angels. They were in Iraq to keep the U.S from killing all those nice Iraqi's. Those tanks and guns they built us ? Those were just for peacekeeping silly !

No but seriously, RAF, you don't have to close this thread. I will stay out of it from now on and everyone can have a nice debate. I won't come rain on the parade with those dreaded "facts".

Zombie
30th September 2003, 23:46
felicia, look away!

Pete
1st October 2003, 01:08
At it again... the article claims the source is from 1999. Four years ago!

By the way, provide a synopsis, that is too long for any one who cares for their vision to read!


Perhaps the problem, from the parts I saw, is more a Christian cultural imperialism, since that is the nature of that religion, instead of a Canadian cultural imperialism. It is true that Canada is a capitalist imperialist christian nation, but without a good summary, or a readable (shorter) arguement, you are just spouting shit in this case. Canada is more often the subject of American Cultural Imperialism in general, although my country has tried to force the assimilation of minorities countless times even in the last 100 years. Japanese Internment, Residential Schools, various antifrench Laws, various antienglish Laws ect ect ect

-Pete

Vinny Rafarino
1st October 2003, 01:11
No kidding. The article is from 2000. What relevance does it have to today?

Ctisphonics
1st October 2003, 01:33
It's not my shit, someone elses. I was just searching for an online version of the Hari Kishna book 'Dialectal Spiritualism' to read for a little side project for RAF and found this.

You want a Synopis: Canadians are evil/ just another manifestation of thier evilness by stomping upon the identities of minoritiy races while maintaining the air of progressiveness to the world. They've population is becoming more and more diverse, and thier trying to remold their new populations cultural identities to somethin more familia and acceptable to the Anglican/Catholic church. (add to CrazyPete's list Anti-American too)

redstar2000
1st October 2003, 05:03
Nowadays, South Asian Newsweek is openly used as a staging ground for the white women agenda. Week after week, women that have been abused by their spouses are put in front of the camera and given extended coverage up to ten minutes at a time. And western feminists are given ample air time even though what they say have nothing in relation to the South Asian community.

Sounds like an excellent idea to me.

If there are plenty of South Asian women who are being abused by their spouses, then the "white women agenda" is especially relevant...unless anyone wants to argue that South Asian women "enjoy" being beaten up.

Feminism has nothing to do with color or "culture"...it's about respect for the human dignity of women, period.

The bias of the plantiff (P. Persuad of Toronto)
is obvious...and reprehensible!

http://anarchist-action.org/forums/images/smiles/redstar.gif

The RedStar2000 Papers (http://www.anarchist-action.org/marxists/redstar2000/)
A site about communist ideas

(*
1st October 2003, 05:25
In the United States, how many channels/networks/stations have progamming in a variety of languages, catering to a diverse population?

In fact, this doesn't have much to do with Canada. It is not operated by the state.

Also, I really don't see how this can be considered "Imperialism"

RyeN
1st October 2003, 05:38
As per the original message posted by Ctisphonics:

CFMT isnt run by Canadian gouvernment. The station is Indepandant and has its own agenda's. There marketing angle was to create a Multicultral station that white peopl enjoy watching, not to bring diversity into Canadian television. Imperialism is alive and well in Canada, but we try to hide it with a socialist front so people turn a blind eye to the coruption. Also I think most countries dont see Canada as a threat. Especialy since our only 3 boats are already buisy. This land is a refuge to thousands of Ethnicities every day. Just last week they lowered the testing scores for Imigrant status from 75% to 60% More and more every day I see the diversity of this country, East Indian culture is becoming increasingly more present in the media.

I think Canada is probably americas back up plan eh!

Guest1
1st October 2003, 06:06
once again, the idea of you using the word "imperialism" baffles me.

look up the definition. this is called "ethnocentrism". not "imperialism". and not "cultural imperialism" either. that would be exporting your culture. That would be McDonald's popping up in the middle east and the indian subcontinent. that would be lebanon doing an arabic verison of american idol.

that's "cultural imperialism".

actual plain old imperialism is:

imperialism

Im*pe"ri*al*ism, n. The policy, practice, or advocacy of seeking, or acquiescing in, the extension of the control, dominion, or empire of a nation, as by the acquirement of new, esp. distant, territory or dependencies, or by the closer union of parts more or less independent of each other for operations of war, copyright, internal commerce, etc.

but yes, Canada has quite a few problems. but as was mentioned, that particular case has nothing to do with the government. if you wanna look up canada's problems, look at the current collapse of the "liberal" values of the Liberal party, the shift to the right of the entire left-of-centre canadian political landscape, the collapse of the once revolutionary socialist seperatist movement in quebec and the NDP, the racism against natives, etc...

I gotta go to sleep soon... oh god...

Loknar
1st October 2003, 06:57
Every single country on this planet runs this world the exact same way.

Pete
1st October 2003, 11:44
I would like to suggest that the territorial boundries of a nationstate has nothing to do with the imperialism of the dominant nation within the state. In Canada the idealized "normal" Canadian is the dominant nation which is trying to force its values on the cornicopia of other nations inhabiting the nationstate which bears the name "Canada."

We are not as bad as America, but still thats no excuse.

Felicia
1st October 2003, 16:13
Originally posted by [email protected] 30 2003, 08:46 PM
felicia, look away!
*covers eyes*

is it safe to look yet?

BTW, rubble, I've never said that canada was a utopia, and I've never said that canada was perfect. It is neither of the above. However, I've said that my town is beautiful, and utopianistic (if that's not a word, it should be) in my opinion.

Anyhow back to the title. Like the other fellow has said (RyaN?) it's not a Canadian owned station. They can play that they want. Go look at the CBC, I love the CBC :D

If you want to talk about "Canadian cultural imperialism" you should be talking about the white assimalation of the native poeples into western culture. That's cultural imperialism in my opinion. However, that wasn't really "canadians" doing the assimilation, it was settlers here and the foreign powers calling the shots.

However, we gained independence in 1867, and the "assimilation" of the natives haven't stopped. If they won't assimilate, we stick them on reserves and try to kill them off with poverty. A massive amount of Native youth in my country sniff gas to get high, and we're talking about little children here.

What's been done to the natives in my country is a disgrace, that's why we've fallen in ranks with the UN on best places to live.

I love Canada, but I love my personal culture more.

I am part native and more than proud of my heritage!!

Those fuckers screwed my people over! And stole from them and killed them off!

Otherwise, I have nothing else to say but..... I didn't read one bit of your article. I don't even know what it's about. If it has to do with the situation of the natives in Canada, good for you, have a cookie.

Pete
1st October 2003, 16:19
If you want to talk about "Canadian cultural imperialism" you should be talking about the white assimalation of the native poeples into western culture. That's cultural imperialism in my opinion. However, that wasn't really "canadians" doing the assimilation, it was settlers here and the foreign powers calling the shots

The residencial schools actually only ended in the 1980's :( They existed right on through Trudeau's days.

The article was on South Asian stuff.

Felicia
1st October 2003, 16:21
Originally posted by [email protected] 1 2003, 01:19 PM

If you want to talk about "Canadian cultural imperialism" you should be talking about the white assimalation of the native poeples into western culture. That's cultural imperialism in my opinion. However, that wasn't really "canadians" doing the assimilation, it was settlers here and the foreign powers calling the shots

The residencial schools actually only ended in the 1980's :( They existed right on through Trudeau's days.

The article was on South Asian stuff.
yeah :(

That pisses me off

south asian stuff eh?

Maybe I'll read the article sometime, but not now, I'm pressed for time, lol.

Ctisphonics
4th October 2003, 08:52
Ummm, Felicia's definition of cultural imperialism backs up mine. Just change the words Native American for Hindi and it's the same!

Pete
4th October 2003, 14:14
Originally posted by [email protected] 4 2003, 03:52 AM
Ummm, Felicia's definition of cultural imperialism backs up mine. Just change the words Native American for Hindi and it's the same!
South East Asian is not Hindi...unless you are using the Persian definition where Hindi is everything east of the Indus River....Hindi is more or less the people of India.