What To Do With Bin Laden ?

[Zippy]

Judging by the state of the attacks on Afghanistan and the fact that they are doing fuck all except killing innocent people, and possibly knocking down a few walls along the way, i have come up with a solution.

Firstly, the man is classed as an hero throughout the arab world. They all love him, and if we kill him he will just become a martyr for thousands. My view is, we have to degrade him to the point were nobody can take him seriously anymore. I think if we really want people to stop listening to Bin Laden we need to encourage him to make some dodgy career moves.

Firstly, get him to do a 2 hour chat show with Oprah Winfrey. He can talk about his childhood, growing up with a wealthy billionaire of a father who never paid him any attention because he had 54 brothers and sisters, and how thats affected him.
Then he can release an album of Frank Sinatra cover versions. New York, New York would be fantastic, and 'My Way' would be a fantastic finale to his album. He can do a tour of US and European venues and have articles written about his cocaine and alcohol problems.

He can then release a book entitled : 'Osama Bin Laden: My Drug Hell,' and in it he can tell us about the time he woke up in a ditch and suddenly converted to Buddism to ease his mortal soul.

At this point in his career its possible he could appear in Friends, as a friendly Uncle to Phoebe who wants to donate his life earnings to her, as he has no need for Taliban millions when he has a guest slot on Jerry Springer.

Zippy.

[idea stolen off a good friend of mine and edited to suit American/International Audience]

[Chief Rebel Angel]

LOL
nice post...

(btw most arabs DONT like him)

[Zippy]

Quote: from Chief Rebel Angel on 6:21 pm on Oct. 14, 2001
(btw most arabs DONT like him)
They will do ..... or they shall die.

:evil laugh:

Zippy.

[kevolution]

what should we do with Bin Laden?
Give him a sex change and send him back to Afghanistan to live the rest of his life as a woman!!
:D

[reagan lives]

Yeah, the "Osama bin Laden: Behind the Music" would be the last straw. He could also do a buddy action picture with Arnold Schwazanegger or Jean Claude Van Damm.

But seriously, as far as potential martyrdom goes, it's true that most Arabs are not bin Laden fans. And it's also true that it's hard to become a martyr if things get better after your death, which is more than likely here.

[Nickademus]

Quote: from kevolution on 7:18 pm on Oct. 14, 2001
what should we do with Bin Laden?
Give him a sex change and send him back to Afghanistan to live the rest of his life as a woman!!
:D


in my international law class we recently discussed the feminist approach to international law and naturally one of the big discussions was how this war is affecting women in afghanistan. the prof put up a cartoon and unfortunately i don't have but in essence it was a bunch of taliban leaders reading a note from the us say "give us bin laden or we are sending your women to university"

it was amusing. just thought i'd share that

[M cin]

Obviously there are several ways to punish the nomad dervish. But the NSA have serious difficulties finding him. If they cant produce their "prime suspect" the world should loudly insist that USA BAGGER OFF AFGHANISTAN, UK LIKEWISE!

[very]

I like the Osama Bin Laden: Behind The Music idea best... Finally, people who joke about this. So many people are so touchy feely to making jokes about this and anthrax and what not.

I had what I thought would be a hilarious joke, but a lot seemed to think otherwise... There's a crappy rock band called "anthrax." you go buy their cd, toss it in an envelope, type up a letter which says "warning this envelope contains anthrax" and throw in some soapy white material and mail it off. Apparantly I could go to jail for up to 10 years for that one.

[CPK]

basically it's up to the US government.
there the ones who are controlling this thing.
so really not much we can do nor say.
i think he should be in an international trial sort of thing.
not under us laws.
so he gets a fair trial.
but obviously he will be guilty.

[Chief Rebel Angel]

Quote: from very on 6:29 am on Oct. 19, 2001
I had what I thought would be a hilarious joke, but a lot seemed to think otherwise... There's a crappy rock band called "anthrax." you go buy their cd, toss it in an envelope, type up a letter which says "warning this envelope contains anthrax" and throw in some soapy white material and mail it off. Apparantly I could go to jail for up to 10 years for that one.


WATCH UR MOUTH, BOY/GIRL! "There's a crappy rock band called 'anthrax' "??? u will be PUNISHED if u speak such blasphemy once again!!



take it easy :cool:

[kevolution]

maybe bin laden should be tried under islamic law (which he loves so much!) in a neutral muslim country? Islamic law forbids the killing of innocents, as far as i'm aware...

[Chief Rebel Angel]

i suppose it would be capitol punishment, but i'll make sure and get back to ya

[Guest]

kevolution,
this if they r INNOCENT! the innocent people u r talking about r the ones who work to destroy the economy of the developing countries everyday and help the US expand its dominance over the world!!
the US killed millions of INNOCENT CIVILIANS before, so why don't the american try for JUST ONCE the meaning of INJUSTICE, FEAR, AND PAIN???? please don't forget that the american MEAN foreign policy killes INNOCENT CIVILIANS everyday .
((AN EYE FOR AN EYE))

[kevolution]

well guest,
i'm against capitalism as much as you seem to be. but you forget some main points about WTC. 1) Workers lost their lives, firemen, builders, janitors, cafe staff etc, not just accountants. 2)can we hold the rank of file of these expliotative companies DIRECTLY responsible for capitalism's inhumanity? Most of these people probably aren't aware of what is carried out by their government and bosses in the less developed world. These are people trying to get by in life. The bosses and government of the US global regime are to blame, as is the ultra-isolationist 'world' coverage by CNN and their ilk.
3)You say 'an eye for an eye'. WTF? I take it you are Leninist - Lenin who totally disapproved of 'individual terrorism'! Violence begats violence, I know. I live in Ireland where our island has been torn apart by recipricol violence, and what has it achieved? Not a fucking thing, the capitalists just sit and watch the pounds (or should that be Euros now?) roll in. Individaul terrorism serves only to divide working class solidarity. The workers movement has been set back so much in the US after these attacks. The economy is in a down turn (recession in Ireland) with jobs going left right and centre. What do we say to the workers? "Well, the attacks exposed the fragile nature of the 'free' market, but you lost your jobs." Thats a bit too dialectical for me. The attacks also gave companies already planning cutbacks the excuse to shed their 'unprofitable' workforces. Individual terrorism, i realise serves a purpose in highlighting an issue - and maybe there are times when it could be called 'acceptable' but not in this case. Both the acts of terror and the war on afghanistan should be universally condemned by socialists. An eye for an eye is bullshit!

[jose lopez]

hola compañeros long time since I write something, well I guess youve heard allready the latest news....the us boms the norther army by mistake , and a hospital....well there you go boys and girls so much war study and money and shit and crap and ñalkdjlñfakjdñlakjdñ.............for what??? * *to kill thats it ....just to kill not to find justice ....just kill.....fuck off bush you hipocrit fuck all off you that whant this war to go on............

[fruity psycho gurl]

WATCH UR MOUTH, BOY/GIRL! "There's a crappy rock band called 'anthrax' "??? u will be PUNISHED if u speak such blasphemy once again!!

SORRY gotta agree with compenero or whatever his/her name is....anthrax is a pretty crappy band! *LOL*

[Guest]

kevolution,
u r assuming that the americans r not responsible for their government's policy, but i don't think that this is wrong. u r assumption can be right if they r in a third world country where the people have no power and the public opinion means nothing. the americans r in a democratic country where they have the power and the ability to change.
let's be clear. i'm responsible for the policies of my government as long as i accept it with no objection or attempts for change.
the afghanis pay for taliban's policy and the iraqis r paying for their government's policy, so why don't the americans pay for their government's policy??????
is their blood more expensive than the blood of the populations of the third world countries!!!!!!!!!!?????????
AN EYE FOR AN EYE is not a bullshit as u said. it's JUSTICE.

[kevolution]

Guest, you are twisting my words here. I made a point about how the U$ Media has great influence over mass public opinion, which there is no doubt it does. The 'coverage' by CNN, ABC et al is ridiculous when compared even to Irish standards. The U$ media trivialised events over Clinton/Lewinsky while all the time bombs were reigning down on Iraq, not a word being said. You think the media is the U$ is free? Think again. And while some worthwhile progams. such as FrontLine do get an airing, they are the equivilent to Panaorama or Newsnight over here, when only those with an interest will tune in. Most people, whatever class, maybe watch the news, news specials in crises, but thats as far as their interest in the world outside Amerikkka goes.
You totally disregarded my point about Northern Ireland. I dont know where you live, so it is possible that you live in a warzone, urban of otherwise. But I doubt it, given your attitude towards casualties. If you knew the suffering that goes on in such places, you would definatley think twice about your actions. And the IRA have announced today that they are to decommission their weapons... if even hardened 'freedom fighters' accept it, then what does that say about individual terrorism? Fundamentalism is as big as threat to the world as capitalism. Both are reactionary and repressive regimes, both must be opposed. But a war between the leaders of the regimes is only going to harm innocent people. It is rarely a nation's leadership that suffers in a war, and some capitalist or other always manages to make a buck or millions on the backs of the working class. Also, for a left-winger, which i assume you are, your attitudes to workers seems somewhat confusing. Do you feel that it is acceptable for workers, of whatever nation, to be slaughter in the pursuit of some reactionary goal of revenge? I know the US is the Big Brother of the world and I know the crimes they have commited in the name of 'freedom, democracy, etc" over the years. But to hold a countries working class responsible for the actions of the bourgeoise elite is undefendable. Especially in a country such as the US where the unions are in the pockets of the capitalists.
An eye for an eye remains bullshit, not justice. Jesus thats the kind of rethoric you would expect from Bu$h!!! Are you by any chance a BlacBlok anarchist, or not a lefty at all and just stirring things up? And also, you are entitled to your views, this is democracy afterall...

[FARABUNDO]

PEOPLE,

BIN LADEN DID WHAT A LOT OF PEOPLE WOULD LIKE TO DO TO THE IMPERIALISTS,,,,,,,

A STRIKE IN THE HEART OF THE AGRESSOR OF THE WORLD,,,,,,,,

THE USA GOT WHAT IT DESERVED.........

[Chief Rebel Angel]

by doing "WHAT A LOT OF PEOPLE WOULD LIKE TO DO TO THE IMPERIALISTS", he (if he did it) descended to their level... killing civilians is irresponsible and inhumane, and will only turn the world against the causes of the person who did it... if u support what happened on Sept 11th, then u might as well support the US terrorist attacks on Afghanistan... civilians were killed on both occasions no?

[kevolution]

in 100% agreement cheif. there is no room for double standards on either side. this does nothing for the class struggle. it is a 'war' between capitalists. remember that bin laden is a multi-millionaire, not a 'man of the people' as he would like to be seen. don't forget that!