Dating a conservative?

[A Revolutionary Tool]

So basically here's what's going on. I've known this girl in my P.E. class for like 5 months now. At first I thought she was hella annoying because she talks a lot about crap I don't care about but now I actually enjoy talking about nonsensical shit with her, like when she gossips about people I don't even know but pretend like I do (:laugh:).

We've met each other at some parties before, I've gone to some BBQ's she's hosted, etc. And basically she's starting to grow on me, in fact it's way more than that, I can't get her out of my freaking head :tt1:. And it's not even one of those things where I just want to get laid either, to tell you the truth she's not even that attractive, but I just love her personality.

But the horrible horrible horrible (Can't stress that enough) thing about her is she's rabidly conservative. And I mean like she watches Beck and Hannity a lot type of conservative. For example we were talking about senior research papers and I told her I did mine on immigration. She started ranting about 60 million Mexicans in this country. She asked my friend if he believed in evolution and then was like "OMG you believe in evolution" and looked over at me with this very cute awestruck face as if to say "Can you believe this guy believes in that". It's simple things like that that just really annoy me about her.

So what do you guys/girls do when you really like a girl/guy that is like ultra-conservative. Because most of me is telling me to ask her out while a very small portion of me is telling me that it will not end well at all because I'm a god damned communist. Like I can just imagine the fight we're going to get in when I tell her I'm going to go out and raid the police station for the revolution you know what I mean?

Doesn't it just suck when you can't really choose what you fall in love with?

[khad]

I would suggest listening to that very small portion. It has never ended well. It won't end well for you.


Doesn't it just suck when you can't really choose what you fall in love with?
The question is whether you have the discipline to avoid that certain trainwreck. I have a feeling that you're posting this because you desire validation for what you are feeling at this moment; you won't find any from me.

[Koba1917]

Well of course you're gonna disagree with the girl you don't on some things. I mean I know very few Socialists/Marxists or Anarchists. Personally my last girlfriend gave a rats ass about politics. But if you get along but disagree on a few things I find no problem :P. And you should also ask her what's her view on gay marriage. Just for kicks :laugh:

[black magick hustla]

if its highschool it doesnt really matter

[Sperm-Doll Setsuna]

I know I wouldn't stay in the same room as one of those nuts.

[Dumb]

I dated a conservative once. Now I'm a communist.

[Tenka]

I'd suggest confronting her political beliefs before even considering committing to a long-term relationship. Maybe when she finds out you're a commie, the side of herself she presents to you will change to something completely unattractive. Or she'll try to convert you.

[Manic Impressive]

oh Freddy you're such a romantic :D

what happened with the Mexican girl you went all mushy about?

Anyway the love/hate arguing thing can be cool and passionate but won't last. Be upfront with her tell her you're a communist, that you believe in evolution and science and in destroying national borders. Then ask her out best to be upfront about it she might even get off on the "sleeping with the enemy" thing too.

[Princess Luna]

I have never had a conservative girl (or boy) friend, but i have one normal friend who is a conservative and we just don't talk about politics except the few things we agree on such as guns and drugs.

[Dumb]

I dated a conservative once. Now I'm a communist.

Whoa, cool, I got a "Thanks!" for that post!

*Feels like being productive now*

As somebody pointed out earlier, it's probably not going to matter in high school. Generally, though, relationships are only going to work if the two of you share similar values. Otherwise, that whole "respect" thing isn't going to be there, and contempt will inevitably take its place. Been there, done that... :(

[smashcapital]

Well on a plus note, you should be able to bury her in any political arguement that you might get into. :)

[NoOneIsIllegal]

if its highschool it doesnt really matter
You gotta get practice somewhere. Who are you, the 40 year old virgin by choice?
No, that wasn't a sexist comment. I meant dating in general, but still...

On topic, I would keep politics aside the first few months. However, if social-issues, economics, and politics in general comes up often, well... never hurts to school someone ;)

[thesadmafioso]

Date her and use the leverage of a personal relationship to replace her philistine politics with your own. There is no better a source for political capital than raw emotion, something which plays a notable role in the formative stages of any such relationship. And if that fails your body is lying to you anyway, you don't need to engage in relations with the opposite sex, the Earth's population is robust enough in its current state.

[Octavian]

I personally wouldn't last much long with her due to my innate nature to argue with most people on social or political issues. You could always try and bring her to the dark side.

[Agent Ducky]

Not even the smart kind of conservative O_O. If you ask here more questions and figure out that she's (maybe) really horrible and bigoted you might be able to get over her easier? Lol, idk. Or you could jut ask her out and see how it plays out... idk.

Although if you're the argumentative type, this might be just your thing. I have this capitalist friend, and every time we're near each other it's like the freaking Cold War. It's fun as hell. And the person that I'm kind of "with"... we randomly argue about stuff all the time too, and it's all fun, just because we're both fighters. Idk though, that's just me ^_^

[black magick hustla]

You gotta get practice somewhere. Who are you, the 40 year old virgin by choice?
No, that wasn't a sexist comment. I meant dating in general, but still...


im saying that being a conservative in hs is as serious as being the president of the student government in hs

[black magick hustla]

Date her and use the leverage of a personal relationship to replace her philistine politics with your own. There is no better a source for political capital than raw emotion, something which plays a notable role in the formative stages of any such relationship. And if that fails your body is lying to you anyway, you don't need to engage in relations with the opposite sex, the Earth's population is robust enough in its current state.
this is called horizontal recruitment btw

[Coyote]

DON'T DO IT. I've been in the same situation before and all I can say is you're entering a world of pain...a world of pain :P

[black magick hustla]

i dont think its that terrible of an idea. do you seriously raise politics every moment

[Le Socialiste]

I dated a conservate girl for about three years before we ended up parting ways. The sad thing is, it had much to do with our politics. I was moving further and further left and she, well, went the exact opposite. Needless to say, people will try to explain that when it comes to relationships, love, and building bonds, one's politics means little. And that may well be - for them. If you're the type of person who can't even tolerate the idea of dating (much less entering into a relationship with!) a person with different politics than you, I would suggest you steer clear. Things don't end well when that's the case.

[Lorax]

Never dated a conservative as far as I know- the dreadlocks tend to be a non-starter with them. I had a right-wing "libertarian" friend in college that actually told me I made him rethink his ideology. I would suggest that people should try to be civil, maybe even friendly, with our ideological opponents, at least in certain circumstances. Converting a rightist is a very hard thing to do, but insulting them only makes it harder.

[Proukunin]

I went through this when I was a Liberal 4 years ago. It's not bad as long as you don't talk about politics..I could imagine how your arguments would take place lol... Communism and Conservatism are just not meant to be..unless you can keep away from political talk. which will probably be very very hard.

[GPDP]

Christ, I had a crush on this girl not too long ago, and though she was fairly uninterested in politics, the few opinions she did express were remarkably ignorant, and it bothered the fuck out of me.

The last straw was when she said illegals have it better than regular citizens do. Even though she knew I was undocumented myself.

Well, more than anything, we just didn't have good chemistry. But I can't stand ignorance. I can only imagine how far away from her I would've gotten if she was a devout conservative.

[El Chuncho]

It won't work, trust me on this, I know from experience. Your time with her might have nice points, but a lot of it would be frustrating...especially if she is a conservative Christian too. In fact, she'd probably force you to visit her church and then you would have to listen to the pastor rant on about gays everyday you are there. *vomits*

[RHIZOMES]

I have a similar attitude to associating with right-wingers as these people have with racists:

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I can handle liberals, anarchists, greenies, pretentious hipsters. Just no right-wingers and conservatives, not just for their politics but the fact their politics suggest a certain repugnant and/or mundane personality I find uncompelling.

[Spartacus.]

Ignore her. And find yourself a nice Communist girl with which you could share the hardships of capitalist society. :)

Perhaps we could even make some kind of Communist "find a date" site for lonely Communist souls looking for romance spiced with a little Marxism and class struggle. :cool:

Oh, if you do go on a date with her, you should definitely wear a Che T-shirt. That will knock her down to the floor. :D

[RHIZOMES]

Don't even need a communist girl. There are heaps of girls out there who would be sympathetic to your ideas, far more than you'd expect. One just needs to be in the right social circles.

[gorillafuck]

Date her and use the leverage of a personal relationship to replace her philistine politics with your own.Bad relationship strategy.

[TC]

I have a similar attitude to associating with right-wingers as these people have with racists:


Can we not post off-topic youtube clips please - thanks - the hope is to keep discussions in this forum on-topic within each given thread. Not a big deal at all but I just wanted to point it out so that we can set a distinctly non-chit-chat vibe and local culture here from the beginning.

[gorillafuck]

That wasn't off topic.

[StoneFrog]

Think of the children, a left-winger and a right-winger come together and makes a ... a ... LIBERAL *big dramatic music*

[RHIZOMES]

Can we not post off-topic youtube clips please - thanks - the hope is to keep discussions in this forum on-topic within each given thread. Not a big deal at all but I just wanted to point it out so that we can set a distinctly non-chit-chat vibe and local culture here from the beginning.

I just have a similar attitude to that song. Sorry though, I've only just come back and am not entirely familiar with the rules. Next time I'll just make a pop cultural reference or link to it if that is acceptable.

[SJBarley]

oh Freddy you're such a romantic :D


Anyway the love/hate arguing thing can be cool and passionate but won't last. Be upfront with her tell her you're a communist, that you believe in evolution and science and in destroying national borders. Then ask her out best to be upfront about it she might even get off on the "sleeping with the enemy" thing too.

I think this is the best advice I've seen...just remember that when the revolution comes you'll be leaving Casablanca style :laugh:

[Kamos]

Just screw her. (However you interpret that is your business...) It isn't worth starting a serious relationship with someone who is ideologically incompatible. My parents are ideologically the same and they can hardly live together. What would be the case with you?

[kitsune]

I can't imagine remaining attracted to someone like that for more than two minutes. I don't care if he's hotter than a bowl of Bhut Jolokia chili peppers, once he opened his mouth it would go downhill real fast.

[hatzel]

I'm not really in for all this 'oh, get yourself a commie girl, it's the only possible option!' thing. If you can't handle having relationships (in the broadest possible sense of the term) with those who disagree with you, then you might need to ask yourself why. Personally, I don't need my friends and partners to just confirm I'm right in all my opinions or whatever. As long as they have an opinion, and can express with any sense of depth, that's all that matters; I don't feel that agreeing with their opinions is a prerequisite for conversation. Just sayin'.

[PhoenixAsh]

I take it from your OP that you have not yet told her your political ideas? If you didn't then I suggest you do. Honesty is very important.

this will probably not end well

(unless you both have an exceptional ability to understanding and accepting each others diametrically opposed ideologies and life views and not get into fights about them)

[PhoenixAsh]

I'm not really in for all this 'oh, get yourself a commie girl, it's the only possible option!' thing. If you can't handle having relationships (in the broadest possible sense of the term) with those who disagree with you, then you might need to ask yourself why. Personally, I don't need my friends and partners to just confirm I'm right in all my opinions or whatever. As long as they have an opinion, and can express with any sense of depth, that's all that matters; I don't feel that agreeing with their opinions is a prerequisite for conversation. Just sayin'.

I agree with this. But...one side note...its not simply a question about disagreeing on issues here. These are basically diametrically opposed life views (communism atheism vs conservative republicanist theology). Now...even this could be no problem but it usually is and will be.

[Sword and Shield]

Well on a plus note, you should be able to bury her in any political arguement that you might get into. :)

No way. The liberals always have inconsistent views and are easy to bury in a political argument. Conservatives, on the other hand, have a simple and self-consistent view that's impossible to refute: "I'm right because I say so."

[kitsune]

These are basically diametrically opposed life views

This is exactly what I was thinking. I don't think someone needs to be in complete agreement, politically or philosophically or in any other way. Different views and ideas and opinions are good. But if there's a fundamental difference in the way a person looks at the world, and the way they relate to and treat other people, that's a problem. If a person's character is selfish, or inconsiderate, or cruel, or narrow-minded, or bigoted, I'm not likely to find them very attractive.

[Tablo]

I dated a conservative christian girl once. She just kind of nodded her head and went along with my politics just because she doesn't understand that kind of stuff. The relationship didn't last long at all. I also had an ex that became some kind of pagan proto-fascist that hated Mexicans(she was Mexican). It was unusual to say the least. Dating someone that is fiscally conservative that doesn't have any views with real depth should be okay, especially if it is just high school. Just look out for the people prone to some kind of weird ultra-individualism like my ex. xP

[Fawkes]

I'd much rather associate myself with a conservative whose views and ideals are well thought out and articulated than with a self-proclaimed communist who doesn't actually know anything and just uses buzz words. It's how people approach things that matters to me, because if they analyze things in a logical, level-headed manner, that shows that they are not only a smart person, but one who you can have constructive debates with. If you think this girl is like that, then by all means go for it. Obviously, you should first make her aware of your political inclinations, and from the argument/debate that will likely ensue you can get a better grasp of where she's coming from and whether she actively challenges her own beliefs regularly and shows a desire for development or if she is just lapping up whatever bullshit is shoveled out to her. That also has the added benefit of allowing you to do some analysis of yourself: do you engage whatever points she makes in an intelligent, argumentative manner or do you just close yourself out and dogmatically dismiss them as stupid and unworthy of even noting?


Edit: Oddly enough, in high school, the two teachers that I by far got along with the best were both hardcore conservatives. The reason why I as a genderfucking anarchist punk weirdo got along so well with them was because we would constantly have respectful, constructive, and intelligent debates. These debates were respectful because we all recognized that -- in spite of disagreements -- the other's arguments were well articulated and obviously well thought out. It wasn't buzz word slinging or "commie-fags-and-immigrants-ruining-our-country" vs. "I-masturbate-to-Stalin", I've got no time for that shit regardless of where you may be coming from. Those debates were great because we all developed and learned as a result of them, and I grew to like both of those teachers as people with unique world views that they cultivated from their own efforts to better themselves intellectually. I'm not some libertarian and they (as far as I know) aren't preaching class solidarity, but we all learned from each other and developed how we think about things. That's what you should be looking for: someone with a desire to grow and challenge their own belief systems regardless of what they may presently be.

[9]

if you have to 'politically approve' of your casual high school dates in order to date them, there is a very good chance that you are going to be a lonely, miserable person.

there are all sorts of ways to relate to other human beings...

then again, maybe you were looking for someone to 'settle down' with. in that case, i can see that political considerations might be more important. but personally, when i was in high school, i was most definitely not looking for a lifelong partner, and i don't think that most kids are at that age.

[danyboy27]

this should be in chit chat!

[Bardo]

I dated a conservative girl once. She was an Ayn Rand fan and was committed to the missionary position.

It didn't last long.....

[Tablo]

this should be in chit chat!
Hopefully we can keep this thread decent enough for that not to happen.

[Red_Devotchka]

lol, i think its a personal thing :/ if you can stand it then thts ok i guess :/ maybe you'll make her change her mind? anyway, i couldnt fall in love with someone who thinks completely differently :p but as i said its personal, you'll know best how much you can put up with :p

[JerryBiscoTrey]

I've dated a Liberal Democrat for the past 3 years and our relationship is fine; we just bump heads when it comes to politics

[Kotze]

Dating someone that is fiscally conservative that doesn't have any views with real depth should be okay, especially if it is just high school.Fiscal conservatism is not less insane than creationism, and giving room to that idea actually carries worse consequences for society.

I just wonder whether people here who say it's okay to date total shitbags have a bit of a different concept of the meaning of that word, like in I'm dating mah hand, I'm in LOVE derpderp. :closedeyes:

[gorillafuck]

Just look out for the people prone to some kind of weird ultra-individualism like my ex. xPIt depends if they're actually objectivists or if they just have an individualistic attitude. I like the second one, tbh.


but personally, when i was in high school, i was most definitely not looking for a lifelong partner, and i don't think that most kids are at that age.I feel like lifelong partner isn't the right word but to be honest a fair amount of high schoolers actually are looking for committed relationships.

[Wanted Man]

I would generally find it annoying to be with someone who constantly gets in my face about their politics, whether they agree with me or not. I don't think we have a lot of "objectivists" or people who've heard of Glenn Beck here anyway, so the really dumb end of the spectrum is already ruled out.

[A Revolutionary Tool]

if its highschool it doesnt really matter
Holy shit there's a lot of comments I should respond too!
I really wouldn't say that, my sister is going to marry a guy she's been with since her freshmen year of high school(She's now a couple years into college) and it's not like I have much time left in high school either, I graduate at the end of the month. I heard life gets more serious after high school.

[Pretty Flaco]

If a relationship isn't for you two, there's always room for sex.

[Tablo]

Fiscal conservatism is not less insane than creationism, and giving room to that idea actually carries worse consequences for society.

I just wonder whether people here who say it's okay to date total shitbags have a bit of a different concept of the meaning of that word, like in I'm dating mah hand, I'm in LOVE derpderp. :closedeyes:
I know it isn't any less insane. It is easier to date someone who is cool with transgendered and gay people that still supports republicans and really has no real political understanding than some liberal or conservative that wants all my friends(and I guess myself) shot for being demon spawn.


It depends if they're actually objectivists or if they just have an individualistic attitude. I like the second one, tbh.
I'm not sure how to describe it. I certainly agree with individualism as any socialist would, but this wasn't that kind of individualism. Her views were more Randist and "I'm only out for me and I will fight tooth and nail to take advantage of others". It ended shortly after she took up that attitude.

[A Revolutionary Tool]

oh Freddy you're such a romantic :DYou know me, hopelessly romantic.


what happened with the Mexican girl you went all mushy about?She got boring. Like literally every time I was with her I was just bored as hell. If I've learned anything it's that you can't judge a person based on one really good night. This is basically the exact opposite situation though. Instead of liking a girl I meet one night and kicking it off with her and then find out I really don't like her much I started out thinking she was the most annoying person I'll come into contact with and then slowly started to like her. Maybe that's the difference you know, I've gotten to know her a lot more than I did those other two girls.


Anyway the love/hate arguing thing can be cool and passionate but won't last. Be upfront with her tell her you're a communist, that you believe in evolution and science and in destroying national borders. Then ask her out best to be upfront about it she might even get off on the "sleeping with the enemy" thing too.Lolz that would be some awesome roleplay wouldn't it. She could interrogate me about "unamerican" activity and then we could switch roles and she could be my little slave working in a gulag :D. But I don't know I don't think she'd leave me for that. I mean I've already told her that I believe in evolution and that I support the immigrants that come over here and we're still cool.

[gorillafuck]

I'm not sure how to describe it. I certainly agree with individualism as any socialist would, but this wasn't that kind of individualism. Her views were more Randist and "I'm only out for me and I will fight tooth and nail to take advantage of others". It ended shortly after she took up that attitude.I don't think "any socialist would" but regardless, it's impossible to get along with someone who lives to take advantage of people.

[A Revolutionary Tool]

If a relationship isn't for you two, there's always room for sex.
It's not really the sex I'm interested in. Although yeah that would be a plus, I would much rather have a girlfriend who is going to be there for me during tough times and they are tough now. You know someone to talk to and all that kind of mushy stuff.

[Tablo]

I don't think "any socialist would" but regardless, it's impossible to get along with someone who lives to take advantage of people.
Well, most socialists understand the idea that an individual should have full authority over their own body and stuff like that. I guess we have certainly seen some other kinds here from time to time.

[gorillafuck]

Well, most socialists understand the idea that an individual should have full authority over their own body and stuff like that. I guess we have certainly seen some other kinds here from time to time.When I say individualistic attitude I mean like "fuck you I'm gonna do what makes me happy" not bodily autonomy stuff.

That's getting off topic though

[∞]

Conservatism is a major turn-off for me.

[A Revolutionary Tool]

i dont think its that terrible of an idea. do you seriously raise politics every moment
Yeah I don't think it is either, it's not like every day we sit there and debate. Once in a while politics gets brought up and we usually disagree. Although one time we were talking about schools with a foreign student and he brought up that there colleges are mostly free and she thought it was a great idea. So maybe some horizontal recruitment should be applied...

[gorillafuck]

Nobody try to recruit anyone to to communism through dating.

Just don't talk about politics with her. So she has shitty opinions, I mean is she a legit racist or does she think gays should get beat up?

I doubt it, I think dating her will be fine.

[A Revolutionary Tool]

I'd much rather associate myself with a conservative whose views and ideals are well thought out and articulated than with a self-proclaimed communist who doesn't actually know anything and just uses buzz words. It's how people approach things that matters to me, because if they analyze things in a logical, level-headed manner, that shows that they are not only a smart person, but one who you can have constructive debates with. If you think this girl is like that, then by all means go for it. Obviously, you should first make her aware of your political inclinations, and from the argument/debate that will likely ensue you can get a better grasp of where she's coming from and whether she actively challenges her own beliefs regularly and shows a desire for development or if she is just lapping up whatever bullshit is shoveled out to her. That also has the added benefit of allowing you to do some analysis of yourself: do you engage whatever points she makes in an intelligent, argumentative manner or do you just close yourself out and dogmatically dismiss them as stupid and unworthy of even noting?


Edit: Oddly enough, in high school, the two teachers that I by far got along with the best were both hardcore conservatives. The reason why I as a genderfucking anarchist punk weirdo got along so well with them was because we would constantly have respectful, constructive, and intelligent debates. These debates were respectful because we all recognized that -- in spite of disagreements -- the other's arguments were well articulated and obviously well thought out. It wasn't buzz word slinging or "commie-fags-and-immigrants-ruining-our-country" vs. "I-masturbate-to-Stalin", I've got not time for that shit regardless of where you may be coming from. Those debates were great because we all developed and learned as a result of them, and I grew to like both of those teachers as people with unique world views that they cultivated from their own efforts to better themselves intellectually. I'm not some libertarian and they (as far as I know) aren't preaching class solidarity, but we all learned from each other and developed how we think about things. That's what you should be looking for: someone with a desire to grow and challenge their own belief systems regardless of what they may presently be.
This is the best advice so far :thumbup:

[∞]

I don't know about dating but once used to fap to this very attractive model.
I found out she was a fervent conservative and so now I fap to other things.

[A Revolutionary Tool]

Just a little curious after seeing a lot of these answers, do any of you have friends that have even somewhat conservative views or are most of your friends communists? Because most of my friends are more conservative and the people that are liberal that I know I can't stand at all. I probably know 6 or 7 people that are even open to the idea of gay marriage being legal, that I can stand. God damn I hate it when people think California is just full with a bunch of liberal hippies :sneaky:

[Catmatic Leftist]

Personally, if they're racist, sexist, or homophobic, it's an immediate turn-off for me.

[Tim Finnegan]

I tried that for a bit. The politics weren't that big a deal, in part because neither of us were very political- I was still in a sort of half-assed market socialist place (boy, did I love cooperatives!) and she was more blinkered by class than ideologically committed- but it did make it harder to see a life with her in the long run, and probably played a part in the eventual break-up. As has been said, political differences aren't impassable, but if you have fundamentally different world views, it's quite likely to get pretty hard to deal with each other in the long run, and this is certainly going to be more true of a revolutionary communist and a reactionary fundamentalist than of a market socialist and a liberal conservative. (Or was she a conservative liberal? I never could figure out.)

[p0is0n]

Convert him or her. My current girlfriend was a liberal at the time we met - she is now a socialist.

[black magick hustla]

trying to convince people about politics through sex is so fucking stupid. its as stupid as becoming christian because you had a crush on some girl that is church goody to shoes. ideas like that never last.

[gorillafuck]

I'm friends with a girl who became a sort of communist because her boyfriend was a communist (he's an active PSLer now btw). She became a wicked pacifisty and left wing of the democrats type again after they broke up.

yeah don't try to ideologically mold girlfriends/boyfriends.

[Agent Ducky]

Just a little curious after seeing a lot of these answers, do any of you have friends that have even somewhat conservative views or are most of your friends communists? Because most of my friends are more conservative and the people that are liberal that I know I can't stand at all. I probably know 6 or 7 people that are even open to the idea of gay marriage being legal, that I can stand. God damn I hate it when people think California is just full with a bunch of liberal hippies :sneaky:

Most of my friends are liberals, some are socialist, because even though I live in orange county, I go to an art school :D. I do have one really well-educated capitalist/objectivist friend. Our arguments are very entertaining. I have some communist converts who picked up communism from me, but some of them are annoyingly clueless.

[p0is0n]

trying to convince people about politics through sex is so fucking stupid. its as stupid as becoming christian because you had a crush on some girl that is church goody to shoes. ideas like that never last.
Why would you mix politics with sex?


I'm friends with a girl who became a sort of communist because her boyfriend was a communist (he's an active PSLer now btw). She became a wicked pacifisty and left wing of the democrats type again after they broke up.

yeah don't try to ideologically mold girlfriends/boyfriends.
Why would one attempt to mold their partner to align to ones beliefs? Am I the only one who actually had intellectual conversation with mine and managed to convince her? I very much doubt she is a socialist for me.

[black magick hustla]

Why would you mix politics with sex?


Why would one attempt to mold their partner to align to ones beliefs? Am I the only one who actually had intellectual conversation with mine and managed to convince her? I very much doubt she is a socialist for me.

i dont think its bad to discuss politics with your gf i think its bad that you make your gf/bf a sort of political guinea pig. some kids here were talkin about how you date her but try to convert her.

[Luisrah]

If the differences are too deep, it can be hard, but if not then what's the problem?

I'm completely mad about this girl who approves dictatorships. But I know her personality, she is just mislead. She isn't evil or authoritarian, she just has some wrong ideas, and I talk to het about it. We disagree on a lot of things, but you know what? That is actually good.

Love isn't (atleast for me) a perfect fit. Better a couple that fights a lot but love each other than those that agree on exactly everything.
Plus, if she is capable of a constructive argument, you just have to talk to her about it. If you are a good talker and well informed, she will naturally convert. After all, we are right :D

Other than that, good luck with it, hope you're happy :)

PS: For all those saying that since it's highschool it doesn't matter, why wouldn't it? Just because we're young doesn't mean we don't want a relationship that lasts more than 6 months.

[MBJC]

Dating a conservative? Go for it, maybe you could change her views on somethings, if not; meh, you tried and at least got the experience.
Could be fun! I would do it just for the sake of doing it!
And if you don't, you'll just wonder what it would have been like to do it.

[praxis1966]

To the OP - I'm speaking from experience when I say it's never gonna work. Sooner or later one of you is going to decide that your politics mean too much to you to exclude them from such an important asoect of your life and figure out that you aren't happy. You seem hell bent on following through no matter how many of us tell you the same thing, though, so whatevs... Some people just have to learn the hard way. I know I did, lol.


Why would one attempt to mold their partner to align to ones beliefs? Am I the only one who actually had intellectual conversation with mine and managed to convince her? I very much doubt she is a socialist for me.

Maybe so, maybe not. Most of the time, people mold themselves into something their partner will approve of in one way or another whether they realize they're doing it or not. I have, although that had more to do with some perceived deficiency in my wardrobe than it did my politics. Something tells me that if you guys break up, though, that all her socialist tendencies are going straight out the window right along with that teddy bear you bought her last Valentine's Day.

[RED DAVE]

Just because we're young doesn't mean we don't want a relationship that lasts more than 6 months.:D

To quote Comrade Dumbledore: "Oh to be young again and feel love's bitter sting."

RED DAVE

[Luisrah]

:D

To quote Comrade Dumbledore: "Oh to be young again and feel love's bitter sting."

RED DAVE

What's that supposed to mean? Lol, I'm portuguese, maybe there's something I'm missing

[PhoenixAsh]

Just a little curious after seeing a lot of these answers, do any of you have friends that have even somewhat conservative views or are most of your friends communists? Because most of my friends are more conservative and the people that are liberal that I know I can't stand at all. I probably know 6 or 7 people that are even open to the idea of gay marriage being legal, that I can stand. God damn I hate it when people think California is just full with a bunch of liberal hippies :sneaky:

My non-political life friends range from semi-radical to liberal to very conservative...I do not believe in restriction...but anything racist and fascist gets banned.

[El Rojo]

if this is in CA then she is basically fash. why are you even asking the question?

[PhoenixAsh]

Only in revleft could a debat wether or not your gf/bf should be communist drag on for 4 pages.

OP should follow his heart. If he truely has feelings for this girl...but should also keep in mind this could go horribly wrong and break his heart (or hers).

Best advise: don't rush, communicate, be honest, don't worry too much about the future.

[∞]

Dump her...I'll call the NKVD for you.

[Red Future]

Yeah this seems to be a problem for me too ..I always seem to have an attraction to the young ladies who turn out to be particularly Christian and often quite devout in that respect.

Being a relativley working class male in a largely middle class area doesnt help either though :(

[gorillafuck]

I'd date a christian girl as long as she doesn't mind that I don't believe in religion. I don't see what the issue people have with that is unless she actually mentions Jesus when you talk to her (that would be wicked annoying).

Though I'd probably end up sometimes making jokes about it so there'd be the potential to make her mad there...

[bailey_187]

After the revolution, this sort of questionable association could put u in seriosu jepordy my friend

[A Revolutionary Tool]

if this is in CA then she is basically fash. why are you even asking the question?
Why do you think she's fash just because she's conservative in CA?

[Aspiring Humanist]

Having different politics is one thing but when someone deliberately ignores hard facts that have been proven time and time again(evolution) in order to fit their narrow world view you know there is something wrong with them so I would never touch a creationist with a 10 foot pole