Maoist leader Baidya prefers PLA be deployed along Nepal-India border

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“I am not against integration of Peoples’ Liberation Army (in the state security organs) but, after integration the command of the integrated unit should remain with the PLA”, vice chairman Mohan Baidya Kiran of Unified Maoists Party believes.

Baidya’s views are against Nepal Army’s informal proposal to create a separate unit through proportional merger of various state led security forces including the PLA—the command of which should remain with the Nepal Army.

The Nepal Army proposal was welcomed by majority of the Unified Maoists’ Party leaders.
Baidya also rebukes allegations made against him and propaganda fed to the people that he was against peace and constitution.
He knows that the misinformation is being propagated by leaders from Chairman Pushpa Kamal Dahal camp and vice Chairman Babu Ram Bhattarai panel from his own party.
So Baidya knows the maneuvering being made against him.

“It would be a mistaken affair if I blame the outsiders for the current misinformation made against me”, opines Baidya.
Reports have it that Baidya is highly displeased with the leaders belonging to the Dahal panel. For, Baidya thinks that it is this panel which have betrayed him time and again.
“I have always advocated in favor of making the existing National Security Policy compatible with the present changed country’s political scenario and that should be done ahead of the integration process”, Baidya says and adds, “This is why I am being portrayed as being against Peace and Constitution to which I am not.”

“No matter how the PLA integration takes place--a separate state unit or mixed with other state organs, what I primarily want is to deploy the PLA for guarding our frontiers…I will not accept any other propositions.”
“They need to be deployed as border security forces along the southern border with India”, opines Baidya.

Baidya according to Dev Gurung-senior Maoist leader, views that peace and constitutional processes should be solved in a package.
“There is no such thing as completing one after another”, Baidya is quoted as saying by Gurung. (Courtesy: Rajdhani Daily).

http://www.telegraphnepal.com/headline/2011-04-28/maoist-leader-baidya-prefers-pla-be-deployed-along-nepal-india-border.html

[RED DAVE]

I think this article requires some comment.


I am not against integration of Peoples’ Liberation Army (in the state security organs) but, after integration the command of the integrated unit should remain with the PLA”, vice chairman Mohan Baidya Kiran of Unified Maoists Party believes.Okay, he's saying that, at the same time, the PLA should be integrated into the Nepalese Armyy and also under its own (and presumably UCPN(M)) command. This seems contradictory on many levels. Why would a revolutionary organization seek to disband its own fighting force into a traditional, reactionary army?


Baidya’s views are against Nepal Army’s informal proposal to create a separate unit through proportional merger of various state led security forces including the PLA—the command of which should remain with the Nepal Army.I can certainly understand why they want separate units, and separate command, but why go through the sham of integration?


The Nepal Army proposal was welcomed by majority of the Unified Maoists’ Party leaders.Is this saying that the majority of the UCPN(M)'s leadership supports putting the PLA under army command?


Baidya also rebukes allegations made against him and propaganda fed to the people that he was against peace and constitution.So he's for ending the armed struggle and participation in the bourgeois state. So how does he differ from the other UCPN(M) leaders?


He knows that the misinformation is being propagated by leaders from Chairman Pushpa Kamal Dahal camp and vice Chairman Babu Ram Bhattarai panel from his own party.Blaming the Prime Minister, which his party supports and the leadership of his own party.


So Baidya knows the maneuvering being made against him.If all this weren't so fucking serious it would read like a parity of left politics.


“It would be a mistaken affair if I blame the outsiders for the current misinformation made against me”, opines Baidya.If he has criticism of his own party on this level, why is he publicly supporting the part's program?


Reports have it that Baidya is highly displeased with the leaders belonging to the Dahal panel. For, Baidya thinks that it is this panel which have betrayed him time and again.So he's saying he's being betrayed by the leadership of his own Maoist party.


“I have always advocated in favor of making the existing National Security Policy compatible with the present changed country’s political scenario and that should be done ahead of the integration process”, Baidya says and adds, “This is why I am being portrayed as being against Peace and Constitution to which I am not.”What does, "making the existing National Security Policy compatible with the present changed country’s political scenario" mean?


“No matter how the PLA integration takes place--a separate state unit or mixed with other state organs, what I primarily want is to deploy the PLA for guarding our frontiers…I will not accept any other propositions.”

“They need to be deployed as border security forces along the southern border with India”, opines Baidya.Why would he want to move the PLA away from the political center of the country to the Indian border?



Baidya according to Dev Gurung-senior Maoist leader, views that peace and constitutional processes should be solved in a package.

“There is no such thing as completing one after another”, Baidya is quoted as saying by Gurung.It is impossible to find out from this article whether or not there is a real difference between Baidya and the rest of the party or is it just party politics?

RED DAVE

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Definitely, Kiran should have said that they want the army on the proletariat's side and to smash the present state. What could be better for the revolution than an imperialist onslaught right now ?

[RED DAVE]

Definitely, Kiran should have said that they want the army on the proletariat's side and to smash the present state. What could be better for the revolution than an imperialist onslaught right now ?I would appreciate it if you answered my points as opposed to just ranting.

RED DAVE

[red cat]

I would appreciate it if you answered my points as opposed to just ranting.

RED DAVE

Your points have already been answered. UCPN(M) leaders will not make a single statement now that gives imperialists an excuse to attack Nepal.

[RedSunRising]

Your points have already been answered. UCPN(M) leaders will not make a single statement now that gives imperialists an excuse to attack Nepal.

This.

I have grave concerns about a lot of what has been said and has been happening in Nepal however given the situation in terms of the possibility of Imperialist attack its impossible to know exactly what is really going on and what is a protective smokes screen.

MSH/LLCO seem to have been advocating the road taken by the Communist Party of Kampuchea for Nepal, is that the road advocated by Red Dave? What line does Red Dave in all seriousness advocate given the situation in that country?

[RED DAVE]

Your points have already been answered. UCPN(M) leaders will not make a single statement now that gives imperialists an excuse to attack Nepal.Translation: The revolution is stalled, and they can't find a way to start it up. So, they are helping to build a bourgeois government.

What would I suggest? That they build up a real organization inside the working class, instead of calling for the liquidation of their own fighting force and sending it to the border with India.

RED DAVE

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Translation: The revolution is stalled, and they can't find a way to start it up. So, they are helping to build a bourgeois government.

Translation: You have run out of even remotely rational criticisms of the UCPN(M).


What would I suggest? That they build up a real organization inside the working class, instead of calling for the liquidation of their own fighting force and sending it to the border with India.

Very valuable suggestions. Have you mailed them to the UCPN(M) leadership yet ?



[COLOR=RED]RED DAVE[/'COLOR] LOL

[RED DAVE]

Translation: You have run out of even remotely rational criticisms of the UCPN(M).

Very valuable suggestions. Have you mailed them to the UCPN(M) leadership yet ?

LOLFabulous. A completely content-free post. There should be some kind of award for this. Something like this:

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RED DAVE

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Now, can we cut the crap and address the content of the OP?

RED DAVE

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Fabulous. A completely content-free post. There should be some kind of award for this. Something like this:

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RED DAVE

It was a reply to one of your many content free posts.


Now, can we cut the crap and address the content of the OP?

RED DAVE

Your posts are the crap. Continue your anti-Maoist rants till I lose my patience and reply again.

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[RedSunRising]

Red Dave hasnt answered my question???? :confused:

[Ret]

This is how I see it; there is a free-for-all jockeying for power in the Party now between 3 factions. Alliances on specific points regularly shift, position statements change to their opposite rapidly. Baidya is a militarist whose power base and constituency is primarily the PLA, while Prachanda & Bhattarai are now primarily Party politicians. As always, India continues to lay down the law diplomatically to a large degree in Nepali politics; Prachanda, has exhausted all attempts in and out of power to circumvent India's wishes, while Bhattarai has always been a more skilled pragmatist acknowledging that India must accommodated - so they have allied to secure their comfortable parliamentary careers and a role for the Party in Nepali governmental politics. This avoids, for the moment at least, a split in the Party and isolates Baidya. He is seen as yesterday's man; former PLA combatants, wanting to get on with their lives, have drifted away or are bored of poverty and restrictions in the cantons while waiting years for a promised integration solution. (Meanwhile internal Party complaints grow about luxurious lifestyles of the Party leaders.)

The military war is not winnable against the might of a well armed NA and Indian forces - the more realistic realise this, and that there is little popular enthusiasm for the 'revolt' some factions repeatedly pretend to promise so as to rally their troops - or threaten rival parties with as a bargaining chip - but never deliver. The 2010 May protest was a fiasco for the Maoists that revealed the limits of their support and options. Any political mandate they have is far more for reform than revolution; numbers of voters won't translate into anywhere near sufficient number of soldiers, so the military option is unpopular, unlikely and unwinnable. Bhattariai long realised this, Prachanda belatedly and Baidya is now reluctantly considering he may have to accept it. Baidya has probably missed the boat on establishing a credible political career and the NA may not want to offer him a military role. The present Party crisis and the factional splits over strategy are indicative of the historical impasse they've reached.

Whatever rhetoric they occasionally still spout to please the Party left, Prachanda & Bhattarai have accepted that the military war is over, so are trading (an already very declined) military capacity for political goals. That's the deal and they're taking it. But apparent tactics and goals change fast in Nepali politics, with many political factions with competing demands to be negotiated along the way; so it won't be smooth sailing by a direct route. But that is the only realistic option for the Maoists - like most other Nepali parliamentary parties, including the NC, they've had their period of armed struggle and are now, with difficulty, being accommodated into mainstream politics. The guerrilla activity has turned out to be simply the Party leaders' way of demanding entry. (A small armed splinter group could conceivably begin operations, but with even less chance of success than PLA's past efforts.) Those who continue to fantasise about a UCPN(M) led Maoist guerrilla 'revolution' are well past their sell-by date.

[Os Cangaceiros]

I love Red Dave vs. Maoists threads.