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RBG Soldier
27th September 2003, 21:07
I see alot of people in here are just coffee shop Revolutionarys. Who want to talk about Revolution like it's some fucking movie that came out yesterday. If thats what you want a televised revolution then go rent the Matrix and don't forget the sequel to that *****. If you are a true Revolutionary then you should be talking about ways to destroy the fuck up system not about why and how it's corrupt. The masses know shit is fucked up. They just ain't been educated or showed how to change it or make it better. Thats why the Panthers were productive as well as Malcolm,Che,etc..... They educated the people about there RIGHTS. Then showed them how to use those RIGHTS. Code for every Revolutionary should be Practice-Theory-Practice. Not Theory-Philosophy-MY OPINION. Too many people want to be Revolutionary Stars(CHE,MALCOLM,HUEY NEWTON,ZAPATA,ECT.....) But don't no nobody want to takes those bullets like they did. Stop the bull shit. Let's Organize,So we can get Free, cause if you ain't about UNITY. Then you about yourself. Then your an enemy of the People and I'M THE PEOPLE.
Your Comrade in Struggle FOREVER,
RBG Soldeir the Urban Street Guerrilla

Hampton
27th September 2003, 21:13
Sounds good. What have you been doing for the cause brother?

UnionofSovietSocialistRepublics
27th September 2003, 22:05
fuck fuck fuck shit shit shit, kill the fuckers, shit to it i say...make that bull shit! ever onward my fuckers!

Nobody
27th September 2003, 23:11
Wow, it's been, like 2 weeks since someone posted something like this. New record.

praxis1966
27th September 2003, 23:44
Seems like every 2nd newbie around here makes this post within a week of joining...

Vinny Rafarino
28th September 2003, 02:00
Originally posted by RBG [email protected] 27 2003, 09:07 PM
I see alot of people in here are just coffee shop Revolutionarys. Who want to talk about Revolution like it's some fucking movie that came out yesterday. If thats what you want a televised revolution then go rent the Matrix and don't forget the sequel to that *****. If you are a true Revolutionary then you should be talking about ways to destroy the fuck up system not about why and how it's corrupt. The masses know shit is fucked up. They just ain't been educated or showed how to change it or make it better. Thats why the Panthers were productive as well as Malcolm,Che,etc..... They educated the people about there RIGHTS. Then showed them how to use those RIGHTS. Code for every Revolutionary should be Practice-Theory-Practice. Not Theory-Philosophy-MY OPINION. Too many people want to be Revolutionary Stars(CHE,MALCOLM,HUEY NEWTON,ZAPATA,ECT.....) But don't no nobody want to takes those bullets like they did. Stop the bull shit. Let's Organize,So we can get Free, cause if you ain't about UNITY. Then you about yourself. Then your an enemy of the People and I'M THE PEOPLE.
Your Comrade in Struggle FOREVER,
RBG Soldeir the Urban Street Guerrilla
Let's all talk about our plans to bring down the government on a public message board. That's the best idea I've heard in 10 years. Which one of you is going to be my ***** when we all go to prison?

Ian
28th September 2003, 02:53
RBG has already volunteered Raffy... and if s/he claims s/he hasn't I nominate him/her...

Dr. Rosenpenis
28th September 2003, 03:31
It sounds to me like a damn fed trying to get us to say something threatening against the US government. :angry:
go away

Blackberry
28th September 2003, 04:47
Originally posted by [email protected] 28 2003, 01:31 PM
It sounds to me like a damn fed trying to get us to say something threatening against the US government. :angry:
go away
Look around you. They needn't bother. :lol:

Sovietski Soyuz
28th September 2003, 04:51
No urban guerrilla would post that they were an urban guerrilla on a message board.

Quit the act, buddy.

bluerev002
28th September 2003, 05:58
Seriosly mr. RBG soldier, you dont know anyone from this site, how the hell would you know if we take actions or not?!

Go away o neai shimasu! baka baka

Invader Zim
28th September 2003, 13:10
This guy is a child prodogy, only thirteen and already a great military and socialist Philosopher.

Come on enlighten us with your infinate wisdom.

Non-Sectarian Bastard!
28th September 2003, 13:59
Malcom a revolutionary? More of a black KKK, he was nothing more then a nationalistic, religious, but a very good speaking bastard.

Hate Is Art
28th September 2003, 14:17
i think someoe has some anger issues that or they have just learnt some naughty words, hopefully the novelty will wear off soon.

commieboy
28th September 2003, 14:55
Originally posted by [email protected] 28 2003, 01:59 PM
Malcom a revolutionary? More of a black KKK, he was nothing more then a nationalistic, religious, but a very good speaking bastard.
i dont believe that Malcom was a black KKK, in the begining of his preachings he was though...but towards the end of his life he changed his mind....read his auto...or atleast rent the movie.

Hampton
28th September 2003, 16:42
Originally posted by [email protected] 28 2003, 08:59 AM
Malcom a revolutionary? More of a black KKK, he was nothing more then a nationalistic, religious, but a very good speaking bastard.

Hey now.... http://www.venueonhold.com/images/phone.jpg

I might agree that the NOI was the black KKK to a certain extent, they certainly weren't going around lynching white people around Harlem. As far as his religion, if it wasn't there you would have never has Malcolm and he kept his religion rather personal, his speeches aren't laced with Allah this and Koran that and he did that for a reason so people wouldn't be turned off at the message. The message wasn't religious it was social. And his nationalism I don't think was necessarily a bad thing what he advocated with it socially, politically and economically are things that should still be done today, but, nevertheless he did lose much of it later in his life.

Zombie
28th September 2003, 20:34
been listening to a lot of RATM lately RGB?

i understand some of your points and you have every right to be angry, but just be careful when posting stuff like that out in the open, it might backfire on you somehow.

anyhow, how old are you? just asking mate :)

Alejandro C
28th September 2003, 22:40
fucking christ! all of you were pretty fucking quick to jump on this guy. give him a fucking chance. all of you agree with him. except maybe whoever that stupid ***** was that was bad talking malcolm.

you know who i picture as this guy. not a fed and not some kid listening to rage too much.

m-1 or sticman.

yeah someone like that, and you people were real quick to gangbang his ass into going away.

the fuck is wrong with you people?

the fuck happened to unity?

the fuck happened to revolutionary love?

give someone a chance to fuck up before you 'purge' them, or go making crazy fucking acusations.



R.evolutionary
B.ut
G.angsta



fuck all that 'fed' talk too. you kids ever heard of cointelpro? divide and conquer. shit you're doing it for them, they don't even have to try.


peace and love to all revolutionaries

Dr. Rosenpenis
28th September 2003, 23:38
Oh
I'm sorry if I was rude to the guy that called us *****es.

IHP
29th September 2003, 00:20
At least one person took him seriously.

Alejandro, I love that these two lines were put one after the other.

the fuck is wrong with you people?

the fuck happened to unity?

Can't you see your own words in your mouth right now?

Alejandro C
29th September 2003, 02:25
i didn't read him calling anyone a *****, i thought he was calling the movie a *****.


and my criticism was an attempt to try and bring someone together.

i wasn't just tearing someone down.

i mean't "what the fuck is wrong with you people" in the nicest possible way.


so now at least your attacking me, i've been here awhile, i can take it.

so while you're at it heap it on. what else you got against me.

i'll start-

hey A C - yo dick smells

- you have quadratic herpes asteroids

- you got syphalitic eyebrows

-yo momma found you in a whore filled baby necropolis

- yo daddy calls you pathetic pedro the polesmoker

-you have a atheist frisbee circumcision that looks like a balistic brazilian briss

-your girls a crosseyed castrating concubine

-your favorite song is donkey punch and david duke

-your favorite book is 'this little piggy gave me anal fellatio'

-i'm having butt-sex wit yo mom monday

-you drink menstral moonshine




ok, that's all i can think of now.

praxis1966
29th September 2003, 03:45
WTF? What is going on here? If you wanna trade third grade insults, go to chit chat. Don't do it here.

I don't know how Malcom entered this discussion, but I will say this. Malcom in the last two years of his life stressed that working class unity was a necessity. However, he acknowledged that there could be no unity among poor blacks and poor whites until blacks established some semblance of unity amongst themselves.

Anyone who believes that Malcom was of the "black KKK" is only looking at the first part of his political life. Towards the end of his life he spoke a great deal about working class unity and racism as an offshoot of classism. This is why Hoover's boys killed him. Anyone who believes differently is either a victim of their own non-researched ignorance or a victim of what they have been taught in Amerikkkan public schools.

BTW, I'm white and I still idolize Brother Minister Malcom X.

Marxist in Nebraska
29th September 2003, 16:56
I agree with Comrade praxis1966's quick bio of Malcolm X.

"I believe there will ultimately be a clash between the oppressed and those who do the oppressing. I believe that there will be clash between those who want freedom, justice and equality for everyone and those who want to continue the system of exploitation. I believe that there will be that kind of clash, but I don't think it will be based on the color of the skin." --Malcolm X (emphasis is mine)

UnionofSovietSocialistRepublics
29th September 2003, 17:48
hey A C - yo dick smells

- you have quadratic herpes asteroids

- you got syphalitic eyebrows

-yo momma found you in a whore filled baby necropolis

- yo daddy calls you pathetic pedro the polesmoker

-you have a atheist frisbee circumcision that looks like a balistic brazilian briss

-your girls a crosseyed castrating concubine

-your favorite song is donkey punch and david duke

-your favorite book is 'this little piggy gave me anal fellatio'

-i'm having butt-sex wit yo mom monday

-you drink menstral moonshine




ok, that's all i can think of now.
Dont rush yourself thinkin of more, i dont think anyones impressed by your post

El jefecito
30th September 2003, 00:51
I totally agree with RBG Soldier. The brother/sister has my respect and support. He/she shows a great ability to move people even though some of you comrades disrespected his point of view.

Iepilei
30th September 2003, 01:18
pick a target, we'll paint the town red tonight.

IHP
30th September 2003, 01:24
Alejandro,

I didn't attack you, boy. The two lines you wrote contradicted each other. I pointed that out.

That list was a little juvenile, think you not? You scream unity while, inviting us to abuse you? Grow up.

RBG Soldier
30th September 2003, 01:39
I see alot of people were a little upset about my initial post. Well I guess if it made you mad then I guess this forum has found it's coffee shop revolutionarys. Brother NO ONE said lets discuss ways to over throw the government on the net, but what we could do is stop fighting amongst eachother. And discuss ways to help the people in your community. Or have discussion like what are the BASIC EDUCATIONAL ISSUES that the people should know and be educated about. The Masses are taught how to do things by action not books. Thats what I was addressing first and foremost. Last my post was directed to people who come on these boards trying to be the next CHE,MALCOLM,FIDEL,ECT.......
"Settle your quarrels,come together,Understand the reality of our situation, Understand that FACISM is already here, that people are already dying who could be saved, that generations more will die or live poor butchered half-lives if you fail to act. DO WHAT MUST BE DONE, DISCOVER YOUR HUMANITY AND YOUR LOVE IN REVOLUTION. Pass on the torch. join us give your life for the PEOPLE.-Field Marshall George Jackson.
I can't do nothing alone, but together we can change EVERYTHING for the better of the people. Your Comrade,RBG SOLDIER
THE BANNER SHOULD READ UNITY,LOVE,PEACE AND HAPPINESS-FREEDOM

IHP
30th September 2003, 02:06
I agree we need unity etc. But you can't scream unity and label others as 'coffee shop revolutionaries.' It is hardly a uniting chant.

RBG Soldier
30th September 2003, 02:22
TRUE. Let me explain the term it comes from People who just talk,talk and talk, but never want to educate people about revolution. They think that there better than someone because the read some book. They think that Revolution revolves around them. But like I said if the make statement made you upset then you must be a Coffee Shop Revolutionary.I see Brother Hampton wasn't offended. So obvisously he knew it didn't pertain to him personally. SIMPLE AND PLAIN. I wasn't talking to no one in general, but Unity can't come about with people always trying to down talk someone because they don't think as they do. IHP I didn't scream someone was this or that. I just stated what I seen alot of on this message board. For everyone's info I'M A HE. LAST I SAID THE URBAN "STREET" GUERRILLA.- THE STREET MEANS THAT WHAT I REPRESENT IS THE BROTHERS IN THE STREET. THE EVERYDAY SOLDIERS. SIMPLY IN SHORT TERMS IS RBG-REVOLUTIONARY BUT GANGSTA .PEACE-PROPER EDUCATION ALWAYS CAUSE ELEVATION

CompadreGuerrillera
30th September 2003, 02:27
Originally posted by Alejandro [email protected] 28 2003, 10:40 PM
fucking christ! all of you were pretty fucking quick to jump on this guy. give him a fucking chance. all of you agree with him. except maybe whoever that stupid ***** was that was bad talking malcolm.

you know who i picture as this guy. not a fed and not some kid listening to rage too much.

m-1 or sticman.

yeah someone like that, and you people were real quick to gangbang his ass into going away.

the fuck is wrong with you people?

the fuck happened to unity?

the fuck happened to revolutionary love?

give someone a chance to fuck up before you 'purge' them, or go making crazy fucking acusations.



R.evolutionary
B.ut
G.angsta



fuck all that 'fed' talk too. you kids ever heard of cointelpro? divide and conquer. shit you're doing it for them, they don't even have to try.


peace and love to all revolutionaries
DAMN RIGHT! you get the fuck off the left socialism's back! just because we(typically)want the revolution right now, doesnt mean we have to be subjected by this anti-unity bullshit!

I already had an argument with Elijah about unity! anyone else against it?? HE AINT THE FED, IF YOU ASK ME, SOME OF YOU SOUND LIKE FEDS, JUST LISTEN TO YOURSELVES, YOURE CREATING DISUNITY AMONGST THE REVOLUTIONARIES THATS THE FBI'S TACTIC, THEYVE DONE IT TO OTHER ORGS, INCLUDING THE BPP!

just lay off, we can all say what we want, we dont need to pounce on someone's idea cause its more radical than yours!

Good posts RBG Soldier, i heartilly agree!

I like your tastes in music too, RBG
revolutionary but its still G!
personally i love DP, The Coup, Paris, and others, they are awesome brother!
"WRBG-- TURN OFF THAT RADIO, TURN OFF THAT BULLSHIT"

hey! are you familiar with RCP, are you a mem. or affiliated with the BPP? where you at?
keep it up man!

Eternal Solidarity--your comrade, CG

Sovietski Soyuz
30th September 2003, 16:24
RGB Soldier, many of the people on this site done alot for the movement by simply "reading some book" as you put it. Most of the members here are actively involved in educating people, when they get the chance. You seem to be saying that we are all "coffee shop revolutionaries" if we don't grab a gun right now, and start clipping capitalists. The time is not right for that.

"Revolutionary But Gangsta?" Do you mean the MTV gangsta? I have always viewed that lifestyle as being opposed to socialism, with all the glorification of material wealth, and flashing around your bling-bling.

RBG Soldier
30th September 2003, 16:48
Sovietski Soyuz never did I say that people weren't doing anything for the people, but like I said before if YOU OR ANYONE ELSE was upset about what I said then to a degree I must have been talking about you without knowing it. I notice you said when they get the chance they educate the people. If che,malcolm,ect educated the people when they got the chance then we wouldn't know who these people are. Educating the people has to be something you do everyday. And no you dont no need book to educate the people. Pancho Villa couldn't read and he educated the people. The Masses learn through ACTION not books. The average working class american doesn't have time to hear about no dam chairman moa and his philosophy for freedom, nor do the masses care about what malcolm said 30 years ago. they want to know how they are going to feed, their 3 children at the end of the week and still pay the rent,car and have a little saving money. You have to show the people how to survive. Like the Panthers did with the SURVIVAL PROGRAMS. No ones talking about no dam gun FUCK A GUN. Education through Action such as SURVIVAL PROGRAMS IS THE KEY. With survival programs it will show the people that the government isn't working that the Vanguard Party is the key. The system will not like someone giving shit out for free such as Self-Defense classes,Health Education (i.e. Food Combination, Vegetarian Cooking Classes,ect...)Free clothing program. These are the basic needs in the community of the working class not Guns. The Hood is filled with guns but no education. We need education not more guns. Brother I'm no fool. Revolutionary But Gangsta is what Minister of Defense Huey P. Newton called the Lumpen Proletarian(i.e. the everyday brother on your block just chilling,taking care of his kids,trying to earn money for his family by any means necessary). Thats What RBG is not bling,bling. And for future references FUCK MTV,BET. It's all brainwashing Bullshit. Peace and Love in Revolution,
RBG

Non-Sectarian Bastard!
30th September 2003, 19:43
Originally posted by commieboy+Sep 28 2003, 02:55 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (commieboy @ Sep 28 2003, 02:55 PM)
[email protected] 28 2003, 01:59 PM
Malcom a revolutionary? More of a black KKK, he was nothing more then a nationalistic, religious, but a very good speaking bastard.
i dont believe that Malcom was a black KKK, in the begining of his preachings he was though...but towards the end of his life he changed his mind....read his auto...or atleast rent the movie.[/b]
Malcom was only populair because of his black, nationalistic propaganda. That was the Malcom that the public loved, hated and knew. Not the sort of Malcom that he was at the end of his life. The public knew him as the person who reffered every to every "negro" working with "whites" as an "Uncle Tom".

What I am really pointing at is that before he could really make his points of view clear to the public and convince them, he was shot. So that&#39;s not the Malcom that the public got to know.

I read a small biography about him, just 250 pages. At the moment I don&#39;t have the need to study on a religious nationalist. Maybe later.

RBG Soldier
30th September 2003, 20:23
There is alot of things that have to be address with talking about brother Malcolm x. See Malcolm didn&#39;t realize intell the last couple of weeks before he died that it wasn&#39;t the Nation of Islam that was trying to kill him but the U.S. Government. Malcolm also came to realize that Hoover set Honorable Elijah Muhammad and Malcolm X against eachother. Simply because Hoover know that Elijah was to die malcolm would take over the NOI. To Hoover that spelled TROUBLE. Be-the-cause Malcolm X had a great influence on the black youth. And for further reference&#39;s The Nation of Islam had white people in it&#39;s temple when Malcolm was preaching. The Media has done a good job of just focussing the publics attentions about the Nation and what they preach far is the White is the devil. Elijah Muhammad said if a White person excepts Islam then he is not a devil. Something to think about since when Malcolm came back from his SECOND trip from the Middle East he stress that is Whites were to except ISLAM in general that would solve alot of problems in the west far as racism. Yes even before Malcolm died he was a BLACK NATIONALIST, LIKE he said when your in Russia and they talk to you about themselve they are only talking to you about Russian Nationalism. And CCCP your correct Malcolm&#39;s speeches about White People made him appealing to the white media. And it&#39;s sad that the world know him for that and not for him giving his life for the love of his people. Peace to all soldiers

Alejandro C
30th September 2003, 21:57
people back then might have known malcolm only as a racist, but that&#39;s because they were told that. people now? malcolm is a hero to every black person i&#39;ve met and many white ones too. malcolm is seen for his role in inspiring blacks to demand equality through force. remeber that malcolm was revered by the Panthers for the things he said at the end of his life. things about uniting all people who work for the cause. being opposed to the government that is racist and facist. without those insights which huey and bobby got from malcolms last years who knows what the Panthers might have been. maybe they would have just been another black nationalist group that never got known for anything but being racist.

what does the public know him as now? A man. a black man who was strong and fought to the death for his people&#39;s freedom. a true revolutionary.

EZLN88
30th September 2003, 22:07
RGB, I like your ideas about the Survival Programs. You say they are the key to teaching and helping people. What I say is this, outline a plan for these programs, research the costs it would take to create them, and get back to everyone here about that. You yourself said that we need to take action in some way. Well, figure this out for us and I, for one, will definitely contribute to that. But, I won&#39;t contribute to simple talk about things. I&#39;d like to see a well thought out plan that involves research into the situation. If you can do that for me I know that I&#39;ll support you. If you can do that, I&#39;m guaranteeing that several people here will support you as well. So, I&#39;m not trying to knock on you, I think you have some good ideas but you need to create a well thought out plan for them. Get back to me about that if you can.

RBG Soldier
1st October 2003, 03:54
The Survival Programs is what will teach the people how to be independent without the system sending some dick head to the ghetto to tells us shit will get better. Brother The Programs will work but We Need COMMUNTIY INVOLVEMENT. Thats what I&#39;m doing trying to get the Gangsta from around my way. To Think Politically. To be truthfull the BLOODS AND CRIPS. Are soldiers ready to fight, They&#39;ve been training for years on eachother, but first we need to educate them on all levels. To get a better understanding at what I&#39;m referring to you should read "Monster" By Monster Kody A.K.A. Sanyika Shakur. "I won&#39;t contribute to simple talk about things"-EZLN88
I&#39;ve done to much of that already. So I&#39;ll get back on the info. Let me know if you got me e-mail. Peace

GodIsINTheTV_69
3rd October 2003, 18:47
I think your right about people being all huffed up about stuff...but then not doing anything about it. But uhh....what should we do? cuz uhh....you didnt really help things there.....you just...uh.....got pissed. I think its clear most people DONT know whats really going on cuz if they did then they would revolt.....and if they do know whats going on....but they arent doing anything about it....then what good are they? Who are you trying to save? Look at this smiley aint it neat? >>>>>>> :unsure: