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UltraWright
27th April 2011, 22:49
Hi there.

I am starting to develop an understanding for what is going on in Egypt right now and I would like to hear your opinion.

A true popular revolution was starting on the 25th of January, and the Egyptian army stood passively watching how the situation was unfolding. After a couple of weeks, the army was sensing a proletarian revolution in the making as the workers were starting to go on strikes and courageously uniting in the face of the regime. The Egyptian army started to fear for its investments (as it controls around 40% of the Egyptian economy), so they forced Mubarak to resign and convinced the Egyptian people through the mass media that they had come out of their battle victorious and they should then go back to their ordinary lives and start rebuilding the country.

The workers, being wise and street intelligent, understood that their demands were not going to be met and resumed striking and protesting. The Egyptian army then secretly issued laws criminalising strikes and protests to face the workers uprising and convinced the masses that that was for the benefit of the country's economy, as those protests hindered production!


My questions are as follows.
1.How realistic do you think my analysis is?
2.What do you think is going to happen next?
3.If think like me that the army is succeeding in achieving its goals, what do you think can be done about the situation?

agnixie
27th April 2011, 22:56
My questions are as follows.
1.How realistic do you think my analysis is?
2.What do you think is going to happen next?
3.If think like me that the army is succeeding in achieving its goals, what do you think can be done about the situation?

I think the answer to 1 will depend on what 2 becomes.

UltraWright
27th April 2011, 22:56
The army is even removing the revolutionary graffiti the artists drew all over Egypt :(.

http://ganzeer.tumblr.com/post/4892153360/mural-for-martyr-islam-raafat-in-falaky-square

Os Cangaceiros
27th April 2011, 23:44
Class struggle will have to continue and intensify. My understanding though is that the trade union movement is actually growing, though, and protests continuing despite the bans. So those may be positive developments. Also the fact that members of the old regime have started to be prosecuted & their holding seized shows that the military has been conceeding to popular pressure a little bit.

But I think the main value of what happened in Egypt and elsewhere is the fact that people realized that they had agency, and could accomplish goals, even if that goal was something as structurally minimal as the removal of a few people in government. The moment that the announcement came through that Mubarak had resigned, and the crowd in Tahrir roared in approval...I would guess that the collective memory of that moment would be pretty hard, if not impossible, to remove from the collective memory of people in Egypt.

Rakhmetov
27th April 2011, 23:58
The gutfuckers in Washington are the prime movers of this soft coup d'etat. The Obama administration is trying to channel the revolution in the Middle-East. The people there should not be duped!!!! They should take to the streets and riot!!!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n5g9-G94DTM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UM7GuLI2ng4&feature=related

UltraWright
28th April 2011, 00:12
The gutfuckers in Washington are the prime movers of this soft coup d'etat. The Obama administration is trying to channel the revolution in the Middle-East. The people there should not be duped!!!! They should take to the streets and riot!!!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n5g9-G94DTM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UM7GuLI2ng4&feature=related

I agree with you that Washington is moving the coup d'etat, many high officials from the USA met with the Egyptian supreme military council directly after the resignation of Mubarak. They met to cook things up :cursing:.

Tommy4ever
28th April 2011, 08:16
UltraWright, were you not the guy who recently signed up from Egypt?

Could you tell us if you know how strong socilalist ideas are on the ground in Egypt?

As for your analysis - this is what I thought was happening too. I hope that the Egyptian workers continue their struggle, however international coverage seems to have dried up - even as the military represses the Egyptian people. I assume this means that the West is throwing everything behind the military government. I'm not even sure if there will be the promised 'fair' election. :/

UltraWright
28th April 2011, 16:58
UltraWright, were you not the guy who recently signed up from Egypt?
That's me, alright!


Could you tell us if you know how strong socilalist ideas are on the ground in Egypt?
It depends on where you look. There are places in Egypt, like Al Mahala, where the socialist ideas are very popular and the workers are very well self-educated about their rights. There are other places in Egypt where the population is either very rich and corrupt or very under-educated, and thus are easily fed through the media what the bourgeoisie want.

However, socialism and anarchism is somewhat more popular among students and professors the closer they are to basic sciences, i.e. Mathematics, Physics, etc. but not Medical students for example.


As for your analysis - this is what I thought was happening too. I hope that the Egyptian workers continue their struggle, however international coverage seems to have dried up - even as the military represses the Egyptian people. I assume this means that the West is throwing everything behind the military government. I'm not even sure if there will be the promised 'fair' election. :/
That's unfortunately true. The more I think about it the more I realise that the army stepped in only to protect their investments after they saw that the Egyptians were capable of protecting themselves on their own. They feared that the masses were going to realise that they didn't need the military to protect them lest they start cleansing the army of its filth.

Hope us luck the next revolution :(.