Victoria 2

[The Man]

Is it any good? It looks pretty interesting to me..

[thesadmafioso]

It's superb if you don't plan on engaging in any of the common activities which make up life for a while, such as eating, sleeping, going outside, ect.

Seriously though, it is probably one of the most detailed and realistic games of the genre. I would certainly recommend it you are a fan of historical strategy type games, as it provides for nearly endless replayability and amusement.

[Tommy4ever]

Its really good. :D

[Lord Testicles]

You have to patch it or anarcho-liberals will swallow the world in revolution.

[Per Levy]

Its really good. :D

your aar for V2 it was really amazing^^


Is it any good? It looks pretty interesting to me..

its really good, yeah you need to patch the game but when this is done its a great expierence and a lot of fun.

[Tommy4ever]

your aar for V2 it was really amazing^^
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You'll make me miss it. :crying:

:p

[Lord Testicles]

You'll make me miss it. :crying:

:p

Can we have a link?

[Apoi_Viitor]

Yes! (Although the UK is incredibly overpowered and it kind of ruins the game)

[Lord Testicles]

Yes! (Although the UK is incredibly overpowered and it kind of ruins the game)

With the latest patch, France usually becomes the stronger power later in the game.

[Red Commissar]

Can we have a link?

http://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/showthread.php?525911-Building-a-Nation-an-Interactive-British-AAR

There's also another nice one regarding a revolutionary Germany but unfortunately certain issues came up...

http://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/showthread.php?504464-Let-the-ruling-classes-tremble-%96-an-Interactive-Revolutionary-AAR

[Tommy4ever]

You know, with LtRCT I probably taught quite a few people about communism. :D

I know one or two people actually thanked me for doing so. :cool:

*gloat over* :p

Shame it had to end after I got banned. :/

[Per Levy]

why did you got banned?

[Red Commissar]

why did you got banned?

The forum is rather stringent on the behavior of members and infarctions issued by mods and admins can stack up quickly- and they hand them out like candy. The way the forum works is that even after a ban has ended, the user enters into a period of "probation", which effectively barred him from posting in his thread.

As such another user had to start the second AAR he wrote.

[Tommy4ever]

why did you got banned?

I managed to find the list I posted in semi-protest to the head mod guy during the post-ban period when I tried to beg to get back. :/

''2 for spam - one was very real spam and the other was me quoting someone and saying his post was funny.

1 a long time ago for correcting someone. He said that the Gulags were sent to the Kulaks and I corrected him by saying that the Kulaks were sent to the Gulags. Infraction for banned topics.

5 in a oner for saying that I didn't think Austen was trolling when King (King was the head developer on V2 and this was near the release date - he seemed really very stressed at this point and was just blanket banning people who did anything to question his plans on the V2 project) banned him.

1 for calling CulturalCarnage ignorant when he went on a rant in which he accused the likes of Bismark of being socialists.

1 for mentioning that the Israeli foriegn ministry had been evacuated in a thread about the Egyptian revolution.

1 for mentioning that the Abbas regime on the West Bank looked unstable and saying that the whole situation might be firghtening for Israel.

11 infractions and a ban. :(''

So yeah, not for very good reasons. :thumbdown:

[Octavian]

The only problem I find with Victoria 2 is that the game is minimally fun and really unfair/unrealistic if you're not a powerful country form the start. Right out of the gate Britain, France, and Russia rule everything. If your a small country and try to expand you get infamy which quickly causes powers to declare of war on containment on you which basically fucks your military and economy. Other wise if you patch and modify the game it is a really addicting simulator and allows for a communist government which gives you cool flags.

[agnixie]

My main disappointment from the first is that I can't spam factories anymore, instead I have to be very careful about which production lines I'll run (my favorite countries are almost always minors; I've done amazing games as countries like Haiti or Denmark, usually I'll even happily pawn off the bits everyone else wants, then I'll laugh as I worm my way to the congress tables as the tiny economic powerhouse people's republic of X :p - so this kind of late game economic management is a new thing; usually by the end of Vic 1 I'd just end up spamming factories all over my one or two state minor instead, now it's more massive restructurings before the 20th century starts)

And yes, patch, because otherwise 19th century proto-propertarians will make your soul weep.

[The pizza crazed Anarchist]

I just got the game and every time I tried to run the game it well say " Failed to create a graphics". I wanna play :crying:

[Manic Impressive]

I just got the game and every time I tried to run the game it well say " Failed to create a graphics". I wanna play :crying:
Go on the paradox forum and ask for tech help I can't imagine many pc's in the last 10 years that couldn't support the minimal graphics.

I hate the patches and I'm seriously thinking about going back to vanilla. Which was certainly easier to learn with imo. I never had a problem with rebels in fact I hadn't ever got a communist revolution on vanilla, although anarcho-liberals were and are still way too common for an ideology that seems to have come along much later.

Biggest problem is with the economy I thought the vanilla capitalism was quite representative word markets were unstable your factories went bankrupt and you got mass unemployment pretty realistic if you ask me. But like all cappies they decided to try to "fix" it :lol:
Planned economy has some problems too as your resources go straight onto the world market instead of going into your national stockpile.

There's also still a lot of issues with the way war works as WW1 barely ever happens.

[Per Levy]

Planned economy has some problems too

indeed, i like playing as commies in v2, but the planned economy is a problem when you play as a large nation like the uk, russia, china and so on. why? you might ask. because you'll spend so much time on the factory screen, i had a play with china were my craftsmen grow in such high numbers that i couldnt build factorys/extend exsiting ones that fast and i was just clicking on extend factory 90% of the time, not to mention building railroads is a pain as well as a planned economy party, yeah try to build railroads all over russia it will take you a while. thats why i play as communists only in small countries, like siebenbürgen ireland or so.


There's also still a lot of issues with the way war works as WW1 barely ever happens.

it doesnt happen to ofton but sometimes it does, in version 1.1 i had a battle as france with asutria that took almost 2 years, and on each side there were over 1 million soldiers. it was epic and close, but yeah hadnt had a big ww1 style war in quite some time.

[Rusty Shackleford]

im playing as venezuela right now and ive managed to basically annext almost all of north western south america. Peru, Ecuado, Colombia, all venezuelan. i even have a fleet that can kick the ass of Britain and the US. also, in land combat, i can hold up pretty well against them too.
also, Venezuela is now a great power, rank 5 or 6 i think. industrially a mammoth for a former colony. Militarily? Gargantuan technologically. rather small though in size. but, i can move forces pretty quick to counter french british and american stacks.

no prestige though and infamy out the ass. basically every five years i was declaring war for state acquisition.

[VirgJans12]

Yeah, Victoria 2 can be a lot of fun as long as you're willing to put in the time to learn and play. I got to 11th place playing as Liberia (super small in Africa). It was difficult though as it was a puppet of the USA so I couldn't declare war on the colonizing French and UK :(. Nor colonize myself.

Also, check out Hearts of Iron 3. It's made by the same guys. It's a lot like Victoria 2 but takes place from 1936 - 1945.

[Red Commissar]

Yeah, Victoria 2 can be a lot of fun as long as you're willing to put in the time to learn and play. I got to 11th place playing as Liberia (super small in Africa). It was difficult though as it was a puppet of the USA so I couldn't declare war on the colonizing French and UK :(. Nor colonize myself.

Also, check out Hearts of Iron 3. It's made by the same guys. It's a lot like Victoria 2 but takes place from 1936 - 1945.

There are similarities but you got to keep in mind that the HoI series are more focused on war, while the Vicky series requires a lot more input on the economic and political end. They are catered to different gaming styles.

[thesadmafioso]

Yeah, you really have to be careful in comparing HoI with Victoria. I find HoI to be a bit to demanding for my liking, as its near constant and in-depth focus on war can be more than draining. It is far more player intensive than Victoria, which I suppose can be a bonus if you don't much care for the generally slower pace of Vicky. I prefer to focus more on grand, long term socio-economic strategy, which isn't exactly something you have a chance to do when you are micromanaging a world war.

So yeah, different games which appeal to different tastes.

[VirgJans12]

I was hoping the time frame (1936 -1945) would make it clear it's about war ;)

It's true though. There is little politics and economics to manage. And from what you can, it's all war-based.

[Nolan]

I've never played either, but I know people who do.

A mix of them in a modern setting sounds like the most badass game possible.

[☭The Revolution☭]

I've never played either, but I know people who do.

A mix of them in a modern setting sounds like the most badass game possible.

http://www.superpower2game.com/

[Rusty Shackleford]

http://www.superpower2game.com/
looks interesting.