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Koba1917
24th April 2011, 06:37
I dislike these two words quite a lot. And as a Marxist I dislike it more. But It boggles my mind with so many different tendencies out there who to agree with. I agree with Marx on pretty much everything. But the role of the State I am still confused about. I would like some works of arguments if anyone has any from both stand points. Thank you.:)
Leftsolidarity
24th April 2011, 06:42
I think that there is a common ground to be found between the 2.
For the role of the state I have a short blog on it that might clear things up.
The Idler
24th April 2011, 20:44
Libertarian socialism - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Libertarian_socialism)
libcom.org (http://libcom.org/)
Socialism & the State (December 1910) (http://www.worldsocialism.org/spgb/20C/10lState.html)
Marxism (http://www.worldsocialism.org/spgb/dec01/marx.html)
Die Rote Fahne
25th April 2011, 16:24
Libertarian Marxism - Wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Libertarian_Marxism)
Broletariat
25th April 2011, 18:24
I too dislike both of those words and find them to be utterly meaningless for purposes of political conversations.
Kiev Communard
25th April 2011, 18:29
The "authoritarianism" label is often attached meaninglessly to the political movements/regimes that are found "bad" by the majority opinion, while "libertarian" label was as of late adopted by peculiar breed of far right that would make even mutualists indignant. In fact, the first term signifies merely a commitment to political State, while the latter one the rejection of it, so that these terms may be used in the variety of contexts.
Vladimir Innit Lenin
25th April 2011, 20:12
Authoritarianism is an often meaningless perjorative.
To dismiss Libertarianism, a massive philosophical school on both the right and the left, is folly, though.
Libertarianism =/= pacifism, non-violence, non-authoritarianism or liberalism. It is, in a leftist sense, where one gives power to the collective directly, without turning the collective into an inwardly oppressive force, as happened in the USSR, where the Dictatorship of the Proletariat quite inevitably turned into the Dictatorship of the Party and at some points the Dictatorship of the Party high-ups/bureaucracy.
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