Communists In Space

[RyeN]

Do you think the International space station is an example of communisum in action?

[redstar2000]

No.

What do you think is "communist" about it?

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[UnionofSovietSocialistRepublics]

Ryen i see you smoked before starting this topic, it makes no sense. Excuse me while i go to socialist space, i hear mars is red for a reason.

[RyeN]

Well I know its kind of out in space a bit as far as a topic, however That space station is a state. The people there work together and share the fruits of their labour to surrvive. Theres no question about doing your job, You do it so your world doesnt colapse and everyone dies. These are people from differing cultures living and working together for the common good. I just thought that it sets a good example is all.

[RebeldePorLaPAZ]

but the space station is not a civilization. it does not breed people or produce goods. it does not trade with countrys and it does not have a government. you cant consider it communist because people all work. its ran by capitalist therefore making it a capitalist owned property. not at all communist.

[RyeN]

The space station is an isolated community sooner or later they will breed. Every day there is produce in means of scientific research. Thats good. The International space station is a shing example of trade between countrys. It has a united gouverment regualted by international law. The Space station isnt ran by Capitolists, but instead some of the worlds leading Astronaughts. Thats like saying the library is ran by capitolists.

[Vinny Rafarino]

You do realise that a person is placed in orbit for a finite amount of time yes? Under zero gravity, the bodies natural internal pressure that is designed to withstand the pressure of the Earth's atmosphere slowly pushes outwards stretching joints and tissue causing severe pain. Complete acclimation to this environment would take many years.



I think you watched to many star trek episodes mate.

[UnionofSovietSocialistRepublics]

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[ÑóẊîöʼn]

Actually Comrade RAF that happens only when you are out in space without a spacesuit.
If you spend a long period of time weightless, your muscles decrease in strength because they are no longer resisting Earth's gravity. muscle wastage and bone weakening occur if you stay too long ina weightless environment.

[ComradeRobertRiley]

didnt think commnism had a government

[Vinny Rafarino]

Originally posted by [email protected] 27 2003, 03:13 PM
Actually Comrade RAF that happens only when you are out in space without a spacesuit.
If you spend a long period of time weightless, your muscles decrease in strength because they are no longer resisting Earth's gravity. muscle wastage and bone weakening occur if you stay too long ina weightless environment.
The only time a space suit is necessary is during a space walk. during the times people are inside a closed area like a shuttle or space station.


It's not only about muscle atrophy although that is yet another complication on the human body. Every gravity sensitive organ will be affected by prolonged exposure to zero gravity do to there no longer being any atmpospheric pressure. As far as bones are concerned, within zero gravity, the upper stream will produce a much lower level of bone mass than normal while the lower stream (that which regulates bone destuction) continues to escalate. Bone tolerance will also decrease, causing much lower level of calcium. these lower levels of calcium within the body will also begin to affect the health of the person eventually.

[ÑóẊîöʼn]

Originally posted by COMRADE [email protected] 27 2003, 10:18 PM

It's not only about muscle atrophy although that is yet another complication on the human body. Every gravity sensitive organ will be affected by prolonged exposure to zero gravity do to there no longer being any atmpospheric pressure. As far as bones are concerned, within zero gravity, the upper stream will produce a much lower level of bone mass than normal while the lower stream (that which regulates bone destuction) continues to escalate. Bone tolerance will also decrease, causing much lower level of calcium. these lower levels of calcium within the body will also begin to affect the health of the person eventually.
Emphasis added.

You are confusing gravity, the force that pulls us down to the Earth, and atmospheric pressure, which is constantly pushing a ton (Tonne?) of weight onto our body at any one time (This pressure decreases as you gain altitude.)
Think about it. as your body is constantly pushing against the atmosphere, as is liquids and gas.
Liquids and gas, when exposed to a vacuum, will spread as far as possible, wich is why water boils at lower tempuratures at higher altitudes.
When your body is put in a vacuum, it's devastating: your blood and other fluids (Lymph, saliva, digestive juices etc.) boil, your body swells (bones and teeth to a much lesser degree) as your cell are in effect bags of fluid, and your eyes may pop. blood vessels and internal organs may also burst, especially if you have recently eaten a sizable meal.
Any air left in your lungs that wasn't sucked out on the first few seconds of exposure will damage them as it expands. The same is true for intestinal wind. (Yuk!)
I won't explain what happens to your genito-urinary system, as I think you get the picture, but I will if you want me to(!)
Gravity in suffecient amounts is what stops liquids and gases expanding, (Which is why our atmosphere isn't boiling away) which I think is what your getting at, and you're right, but their being no gravity (or rather microscopic amounts) pressure in spacecraft is maintained like gas in a bottle