will there be any innovation in a communistic society

[Samurai500]

will there be any innovation in a communistic society.. will i lose my ambition to invent, expand etc. etc. to innovate.. or will it be dull..

communistic society doesn't sound fun.. it be boring

[Lenina Rosenweg]

will there be any innovation in a communistic society.. will i lose my ambition to invent, expand etc. etc. to innovate.. or will it be dull..

communistic society doesn't sound fun.. it be boring

Perhaps it would be boring but then being unemployed, massively underemployed, the victim of genocide in Central America and Africa, the victim of drone attacks or death squads, living in a flavella or shanty town in Rio or Mumbai or Shanghai ain't exactly a bowl full of cherries either.
At least that's what I've heard.

And, judging from rhe qualit of your posty, I would seriously question if you have any "ambition" or even ability to " invent, expand etc. etc. to innovate.." Just sayin'.

[nuisance]

no. coummuism is static. duh.

[kitsune]

Compare the open-source software community to the proprietary one. There is a thousand times more innovation in the open-source model.

In the for-profit model, innovation is a liability. It must be kept to a minimum. The least you can get away with and remain competitive is the goal. It stifles innovation.

[Psy]

will there be any innovation in a communistic society.. will i lose my ambition to invent, expand etc. etc. to innovate.. or will it be dull..

communistic society doesn't sound fun.. it be boring

What is your ambition to invent? If it is to get rich yeah that incentive won't be there. If your motivation is more personal in nature (for example: ego, feeling useful or actually bettering society) then communism won't get in your way.

By the late stages of communism we probably have the resources to even freely pursue very costly scientific endeavors like deep space exploitation and building highly intelligent artilects.

[Tim Finnegan]

Why would you lose your ambition? If it's because you couldn't grow to fulfil the capitalist ideal of the inventor-entrepreneur, then you're problem isn't one of incentive but of realism, because that concept is a romantic myth, not an accurate description of how innovation occurs within capitalism.

[Ballyfornia]

There is a video on Youtube " The surprising truth about what motivates us".
It gives example of how innovation happens more when there is no money and over topics mentioned above.

watch?v=u6XAPnuFjJc

[Gorilla]

You can innovate awesome ways to denounce enemies and do fun stuff with rusted tractor parts.

[Jose Gracchus]

It comes out of real struggles, really nothing more to it than that. Can't be thought up ex nihilo.

[Leonid Brozhnev]

Money is a massive factor in inventions, most people can only invent something when they have poured massive amount of cash into it. Now, if you take away the factor money plays and you're just left with the materials and no financial limits, how the hell is that going to impede ambition?

Money is a like the human race built a brick house and trapped itself inside by not adding any windows or doors. Marx brought a sledgehammer, but we're all content to sit in the dark and slowly suffocate in our own farts.

[RedSquare]

This argument is often trotted out by those opposed to any kind of more equitable system, most notably communism. In my opinion, it's absolutely baseless and actually just a lazy excuse for an argument. As has been pointed out, innovation in the open-source (for free) software community is astounding.

It is possible to run a computer, with a full suite of free applications from the operating system upwards with the user only having to pay for the physical components (processor, hard drive, etc., etc.) Furthermore, as has also been mentioned, the market can often stifle innovation since it is extremely dependent on capital to get moving.

In a system which is designed to meet the needs of the people, innovation would be state-funded, hence it would be less susceptible to the risks associated with market capitalism.

[Kronsteen]

will there be any innovation in a communistic society.. will i lose my ambition to invent, expand etc. etc. to innovate.. or will it be dull..

Obviously people innovate given the freedom to do so - it's one of the things which makes us human. The only people who don't innovate are those who're completely controlled, and those who live so hand-to-mouth they can't afford to try something new.

But I'd approach the question from another angle.

Capitalism relies on innovation - new technology, new ways to do a job faster or better, new products to sell.

But what motive does the worker have to innovate? Let's say you work in an office cataloging and filing documents, and you think of a way to make the database more useful.

It might work or it might not, but the only way you'll know is if you try it. Will your manager be happy that you're 'wasting time' on your idea instead of doing your job? Probably not.

But let's say you do improve the cataloging system - what do you get out of it? A pay rise? Credit? Thanks? What you get, together with your collegues, is an order to implement the impovement for the sake of the company.

We've all had ideas for how we could do our jobs better, but there's no point in acting on them - your idea will just be taken from you and turned into a directive.

[Tim Finnegan]

I wonder why you think that most innovation comes from random ideas suggested to bosses, rather than, say, planned research and development by specialist technicians. That seems closer to the truth.