Hypocrisy of Anti-Corporatism

[Samurai500]

you guys claim that you are anti-corporate, against the big evil "corporation"... but the thing is love, is that most of your items, opersonal products or whatever, are developed by a CORPORATION

for gamers- ps3, 360, wii are designed by corporations

ipod ,iphone, all apple products, laptops, automobiles,

for all you that use google search, don't google is a "big evil corporation"

if you have microsoft windows... get it off of your computer, that was created by a corporation

dont use youtube anymore, since it is owned by google, a corporation

i am willing to bet alot of your items at home are created by corporation

i just smell hypocrisy

"im against corporations, but im going to play my ps3 now)

[Savage]

lol

[Revolutionair]

I thought this would be a thread on psychology a la Zizek. :(

[Ostrinski]

Do you expect us to move into the woods?

[Revolutionair]

Don't feed the troll.

[Gorilla]

Hippies from the Green Party hate corporations.

We fucking love them. They are half-socialist already. We will just take them over and run them for The Party.

[Savage]

The PS3 is the most deadly agent of Imperialism

[Pretty Flaco]

The PS3 is the most deadly agent of Imperialism

Gamers of the world unite! You have nothing but your ps3 cords to lose!

[Dumb]

Classic bourgeois thinking. Do you really think Bill Gates just sits in some basement somewhere, developing all Microsoft's programs, fine-tuning all his company's products? Seldom has a "corporation" (or the owner, or the CEO thereof) ever done much actual development, let alone production, of consumer goods and life necessities.

This isn't to say that Bill Gates never did any programming. He did. But if you look at what Microsoft has sold and continues to sell, the vast majority of its products were designed by Microsoft employees - rank-and-file workers like you and me. And that's before we even get into actual production of hardware and software. Show me one computer Microsoft has ever sold to consumers that Bill Gates himself made. Show me one software disc Bill Gates himself produced.

When we make a purchase from a corporation, it's because we have nowhere else to go. Corporations have conquered the means of production. However, the products we purchase were made by workers like ourselves - not the "entrepreneurs" the OP and his bourgeois ilk so fetishise.

[RedSonRising]

We need goods and services and the means to produce them democratically, not concentrated hierarchies of power to deprive us of the capability to fulfill our basic needs and creative wants.

[progressive_lefty]

If you want to talk about hyprocrisy. So many corporations criticise 'big government' or 'the government' but rely very much on its institutions. Where do you want to take this? You don't think a lot of people on revleft are intentionally buying 'fair trade' products, or are part of food co-ops and local farming groups in order to avoid buying from big supermarket corporations? You don't think people on here completely avoid buying Nike or refuse to shop at Wal-mart?


Originally Posted by Revolutionair
Don't feed the troll.
Your right.

[jake williams]

:(

I was expecting a really insightful thread about the political backwardness of "anti-corporatism" as a petty-bourgeois ideology, or perhaps a link to an article along the same lines.

[lines]

I'm not against corporations, I am against the exploitation of workers by corporations.

[DaringMehring]

:(

I was expecting a really insightful thread about the political backwardness of "anti-corporatism" as a petty-bourgeois ideology, or perhaps a link to an article along the same lines.

Yes. Anti-corporatism is for people who are either too indoctrinated or afraid to be anti-capitalist, or too stupid to understand the laws of capitalist accumulation. In my experience, usually petit-bourgeois radicals who are sickened on some level by war and corporate money in government, but who like their upper-middle class existence, don't want to risk social ostracization, and have no understanding of the history and potential of revolution.

Some will fall to the side of revolution during an upheaval, some will fall to the side of reaction. But their ideology is a dead-end and does nothing but obscure and deflect from the real questions and solutions. It does nothing to prepare them for a revolutionary situation, and nothing to prepare a revolutionary situation. It is petit-bourgeois to the core, something only the NGNMs of the left could tolerate.

[GPDP]

Shall we salvage this thread, then?

I fully agree with DaringMehring. Too often do I see left-liberals and even proclaimed socialists rail against "corporations" (usually followed by cursing AmeriKKKa and the teabaggers), but what do they actually hope to accomplish, I wonder? Do they seek to merely regulate them? Take away their "personhood"? Abolish them outright? And then what?

Capitalism with a happy face is what they often propose in the end, even if they don't state it or even realize it outright. As long as it's still capitalism, all their work will likely be for naught unless they go all the way and work to end it completely.

[Hexen]

If you want to talk about hyprocrisy. So many corporations criticise 'big government' or 'the government' but rely very much on its institutions.

Actually, everytime corporations/right-wingers criticize "big government" their actually talking about us the lower classes which represents a real democracy what they don't want which interferes with their "individual" rights to exploit them.

I hope this makes sense since "government" is just a Right Wing code word to throw others off.

[GPDP]

Actually, everytime corporations/right-wingers criticize "big government" their actually talking about us the lower classes which represents a real democracy what they don't want to interfere with their "individual" rights to exploit them.

I hope this makes sense since "government" is just a Right Wing code word to throw others off.

Couldn't have said it better myself. Right-wing rhetoric is FULL of coded language and words with implicit meaning that anyone receptive to their politics easily picks up on and understands.

Words like "big government," "family values," "real Americans," "freedom," "tough on crime"... they are all code words designed to subliminally bash the poor and minorities and whatever social programs help them out, uphold white supremacy and patriarchy, and shill for the wealthy.