Opposing Ideologies Census

[Sadena Meti]

I'm curious to know how many people, out of the total membership of the board, are Restricted. It would be interesting to know the percentage. It may also be impossible to calculate.

[Jimmie Higgins]

I have a feeling the responses might be skewed towards the restricted leftists and progressives on here because any hard-core conservatives will know that any census is just a ploy to find out who they are and hand over the information to Obama so we can begin the secret socialist takeover!

I was talking to Barack the other day and he said it should be ready by October.:lol:

[hatzel]

It would be very easy to find out the percentage, actually. I'm not an expert of vBulletin, but if it's the same as phpbb, 'restricted' is just a group with specific permissions. An admin could presumably tell us how many people are in that group; this can easily be seen from the admin control panel (or whatever it's called on vBulletin). We could then put that number over the total number of registered users, to get a percentage. Clearly a very easy figure to calculate.

Easy, though, doesn't mean worthwhile. I have absolutely no interest in knowing how many restricted users there are. I couldn't think of a single reason anybody could ever care to know that. I won't be asking any admin for the numbers...

[Sadena Meti]

Easy, though, doesn't mean worthwhile. I have absolutely no interest in knowing how many restricted users there are. I couldn't think of a single reason anybody could ever care to know that. I won't be asking any admin for the numbers...

Numbers are nothing to fear. I'm just interested in what percentage have been oppressed.

[graymouser]

Numbers are nothing to fear. I'm just interested in what percentage have been oppressed.
OI is not oppression. It's exclusion from certain forums on an online discussion board. This is done because the people who set up these boards don't want every thread to turn into a fight between people who disagree on certain fundamental questions. I'm sure you can find some other boards where your views will not get you restricted - but RevLeft's rules are fairly straightforward and hardly a secret.

[Sadena Meti]

I suggested ideas that made some people uncomfortable with their inability to answer them. And so I was Restricted. I've asked the Admins to find one sentence where I broke the "party line" and have yet to hear back from them. And it was not my intention to make this thread about me.

In any case, what does that have to do with the request? I'm interested to know what percent of the population is Restricted.

[Kassad]

Oppressed. :laugh:

You were restricted for a reason. On the topic of a census, I have no idea how one would even go about finding that out.

[Sadena Meti]

Oppressed. :laugh:

You were restricted for a reason.

Still waiting for a single sentence that proves that reason.


On the topic of a census, I have no idea how one would even go about finding that out.

Rabbi K seems to think it would be easy.

[TheCultofAbeLincoln]

My name is thecultofabelincoln

I'm restricted.

[Sadena Meti]

My name is thecultofabelincoln

I'm restricted.

Lol, I think census was the wrong word for me to use. I was thinking more like simple statistics. They have statistics on how many posts get put in OI (#1). How can it be so hard to put statistics on residents.

[Ele'ill]

Lol, I think census was the wrong word for me to use. I was thinking more like simple statistics. They have statistics on how many posts get put in OI (#1). How can it be so hard to put statistics on residents.

OI has a lot of posts because it doesn't have all that many subforums. You can't compare OI to any other subforum on the board- you'd have to compare OI to the entire rest of the board.

[#FF0000]

OP, are you pro-choice

[Sadena Meti]

OI has a lot of posts because it doesn't have all that many subforums. You can't compare OI to any other subforum on the board- you'd have to compare OI to the entire rest of the board.
Cool, let's do that too. See I love statistics. I'm addicted to my own website's statistics, because I'm trying to understand how I get 2 million hits a year (actually last year it was 2,481,623) and I don't updated it that often. Content I guess.

[ComradeMan]

I'm curious to know how many people, out of the total membership of the board, are Restricted. It would be interesting to know the percentage. It may also be impossible to calculate.

Well, a crude way to do it would be to place a simple poll (and hope that everyone responded)-

Are you an OIer?

Simple as that.

You could perhaps add other questions like-

Do you visit OI but are not an OIer?
Have you been an OIer but unrestricted?

etc.

:cool:

[Sasha]

we have:
18000+ unrestricted and not-banned registerd members of which around 5000 posted more than 10 posts
we have an whopping 7000+ banned users of which most are spambots i assume
and than we have an grand total of exactly 583 restricted users.
so if we take that 10 post minimum to define an actual revlefter worthy of mention you'll find that you have about 1 OIr for every 10 normal established users

OP answerd, thread closed? :p

[Le Libérer]

OI has a lot of posts because it doesn't have all that many subforums. You can't compare OI to any other subforum on the board- you'd have to compare OI to the entire rest of the board.

Not only that, Opposing Ideologies is the reason for revolution and real oppression. :rolleyes: So of course theres going to be more dialog about it and how to over throw it.

I always felt having an OI forum on a leftist board was very benevolent of our dear leader. Most wouldnt even entertain the idea. So please enjoy your stay, Sadena Meti, as limited as it may be.

PS I find your user title to be quite dramatic.

[PhoenixAsh]

OI is not oppression. It's exclusion from certain forums on an online discussion board. This is done because the people who set up these boards don't want every thread to turn into a fight between people who disagree on certain fundamental questions. I'm sure you can find some other boards where your views will not get you restricted - but RevLeft's rules are fairly straightforward and hardly a secret.

:-) You mean like the fundamental questions between anarchy vs leninism vs left communism, Mao vs Stalin vs Trotsky and what, who, when is/was better, best and bestest? :-)

Not everybody is in here because a ruling made sense, was right or was because of fundamental differences of opinion with the rest of the board...it could also have been personal agenda advocating...or use of a single bad word...hence we have the unfair restrictions thread..and hence decisions can be appealed.

I am not saying its fair...but see it as some sort of penal colony with parole board and all...and some members are simply serving multiple life sentences.

[hatzel]

Not everybody is in here because a ruling made sense, was right or was because of fundamental differences of opinion with the rest of the board...it could also have been personal agenda advocating...or use of a single wordAnd some people are, as we know, in here for all that 'yeah if you're pregnant and you attempt suicide and your baby dies in the process then you should like totally be brought up on murder charges', and I admit, there probably isn't a written rule explicitly banning advocating murder charges against suicidal pregnant women (that being far too specific an opinion to be covered in the official rule-book), but the mods can generally be trusted to use their common sense and figure out who, taking their entire 'corpus' of posts into consideration, is an absolute tool and who isn't :)

[Sadena Meti]

PS I find your user title to be quite dramatic.

Before I got sent here it was "Waiting to get sent to OI!"

[Nolan]

What comes after the ban?

[JTB]

OI is not oppression. It's exclusion from certain forums on an online discussion board. This is done because the people who set up these boards don't want every thread to turn into a fight between people who disagree on certain fundamental questions. I'm sure you can find some other boards where your views will not get you restricted - but RevLeft's rules are fairly straightforward and hardly a secret.

The Gulag was not oppression. It was exclusion from the communist system and public discourse. This was done because our Lord God Stalin didn't want every discussion of policy and the glories of mass starvation and oligarchy to turn into a fight between people who disagree on whether being starved, shot, and enslaved by a bureaucratic collectivist regime was the most awesome thing in history or not. :rolleyes:

Why is it you people are scared of open and honest discourse? History makes the answer obvious.

I'd rather be ruled by NAZIs than Stalinists. At least the NAZIs were honest about it.

[Nolan]

Gulag!!11 EVILL! EEEEEEEEVVVVVIIIIIIIILLLLLL!!!!!

[JTB]

we have:
18000+ unrestricted and not-banned registerd members of which around 5000 posted more than 10 posts
we have an whopping 7000+ banned users of which most are spambots i assume
and than we have an grand total of exactly 583 restricted users.
so if we take that 10 post minimum to define an actual revlefter worthy of mention you'll find that you have about 1 OIr for every 10 normal established users

OP answerd, thread closed? :p
Why do you feel the need to hush 1/10 of your posters?

Keep in mind that a site like this mostly attracts the Left anyway, so it's safe to assume a minority of those restricted are Whites.

[Nolan]

so it's safe to assume a minority of those restricted are Whites.

ORLY. Guess what I am.

[JTB]

Gulag!!11 EVILL! EEEEEEEEVVVVVIIIIIIIILLLLLL!!!!!

You prefer the Pol Pot model?

Every single time Stalinists and others like them have gained power, we've seen the exact same thing.

[Nolan]

Giant missile parades man. im telling you its totalitaririatian.

[JTB]

I always felt having an OI forum on a leftist board was very benevolent of our dear leader. Most wouldnt even entertain the idea.

Dear Leader?

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_-HE1lR1mlb8/TPSXdrQYzLI/AAAAAAAADls/4k_3MUD3eqY/s1600/polpot1.jpg

Most of you wouldn't entertain the idea of allowing anyone who disagrees with God to speak?


How would you handle that problem?

Same as before?

http://slightlyfucked.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/mass-gravepolpot.jpg

[JTB]

Giant missile parades man. im telling you its totalitaririatian.
How can you be both a Czarist and a Hoaxhaist?

You must be one very confused little idiot.

[Sadena Meti]

OK I've got to say you've taken your analogy a bit far.

[Nolan]

How can you be both a Czarist and a Hoaxhaist?

You must be one very confused little idiot.

actually hoxha had a muslim background so im more like an ottoman emperor. but thanks anyway bra

[JTB]

actually hoxha had a muslim background so im more like an ottoman emperor. but thanks anyway bra
So you're an Ottoman counter-revolutionary emperor trying to quash the bolshevik revolution?

:confused:

[Le Libérer]

Keep in mind that a site like this mostly attracts the Left anyway, so it's safe to assume a minority of those restricted are Whites.

I would say the largest majority of restricted members are white. But its hard to tell. We as Communists dont ask the race of our members.

[Nolan]

So you're an Ottoman counter-revolutionary emperor trying to quash the bolshevik revolution?

:confused:

y the fuck would i crush it man lenin gave me money

[Le Libérer]

Dear Leader?



No, Dear Leader as the owner of this message board? :rolleyes:

[PhoenixAsh]

The Gulag was not oppression. It was exclusion from the communist system and public discourse. This was done because our Lord God Stalin didn't want every discussion of policy and the glories of mass starvation and oligarchy to turn into a fight between people who disagree on whether being starved, shot, and enslaved by a bureaucratic collectivist regime was the most awesome thing in history or not. :rolleyes:

This is the part I can appreciate....



Why is it you people are scared of open and honest discourse? History makes the answer obvious. Right...no we are not. I personally do not care but this is a forum for the radical left. If you are not radical left...you actually have no purpose here. Yet there is this part of the forum which you are free to roam.





I'd rather be ruled by NAZIs than Stalinists. At least the NAZIs were honest about it.Really? :glare:

Because nobody is stopping you from making an account at SF.


BUt about that honesty thing...it was pretty much stated when you joined that either you are rev left or you are restricted....also stated was that you can get restricted for ifnracting forum rules...which you accepted.

[Nolan]

No, Dear Leader as the owner of this message board? :rolleyes:

Arent you dear leader #2 now?

[JTB]

I would say the largest majority of restricted members are white. But its hard to tell. We as Communists dont ask the race of our members.
I see. Another so-called communist who doesn't even know the history of communism. Try reading up on the Reds (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_Army) and Whites

(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_Movement) Interesting that you didn't even consider that we're discussion opposing ideologies and immediately thought of how you might racially classify the masses.

[JTB]

y the fuck would i crush it man lenin gave me money
You just said you were a Czarist

[Le Libérer]

I see. Another so-called communist who doesn't even know the history of communism. Try reading up on the Reds (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_Army) and Whites (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_Movement%5C)

Interesting that you didn't even consider that we're discussion opposing ideologies and immediately thought of how you might racially classify the masses.

No sweetheart, you brought race into this, not me when discussing how many people have been restricted on this board. You definitely lack finesse in your ad hominems. ;)

[Bud Struggle]

ORLY. Guess what I am.
So you think! But are you Aryan white? :D

[JTB]

No sweetheart, you brought race into this, not me.

Nobody brought race into anything until you did.

[Nolan]

You just said you were a Czarist

U mean liek

OBAMA CZARS???:scared:

[Sadena Meti]

Why do you feel the need to hush 1/10 of your posters?

Keep in mind that a site like this mostly attracts the Left anyway, so it's safe to assume a minority of those restricted are Whites.

Sorry, but YOU did bring race into it.

[PhoenixAsh]

I see. Another so-called communist who doesn't even know the history of communism. Try reading up on the Reds (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_Army) and Whites (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_Movement%5C)

Interesting that you didn't even consider that we're discussion opposing ideologies and immediately thought of how you might racially classify the masses.

Its really basic psychology seeing as you first made a post about you arther being ruled by Nazis who are all about race...so then we naturally assumed you were talking about race because you prefer racists above us people.

Really....trying to place yourself in somebodies shoes and what do you get? :rolleyes:


Nobody brought race into anything until you did.

Who mentioned Nazi's?

[JTB]

Sorry, but YOU did bring race into it.
Do cite. COTR was the first person in this thread to mention race.

[Le Libérer]

Nobody brought race into anything until you did.




Keep in mind that a site like this mostly attracts the Left anyway, so it's safe to assume a minority of those restricted are Whites.

I would say the largest majority of restricted members are white. But its hard to tell. We as Communists dont ask the race of our members.[/quote]

Straight up liar eh?

[ComradeMan]

I would say the largest majority of restricted members are white. But its hard to tell. We as Communists dont ask the race of our members.


I think he meant White as in the White Russians- opposed to the Reds. ;)

[PhoenixAsh]

I also think he did. But he did mention the Nazi´s

and thats about as race as you can get.


So misleading us with clever psychological tricks and witticism (I don´t even know how to spell it)...thats exactly why you are restricted!!! Naughty, naughty cappie trying to confuse us!!!

[Pretty Flaco]

I don't think there should be restrictions. Sometimes a nonsocialist opinion on something would be interesting.

[Le Libérer]

I think he meant White as in the White Russians- opposed to the Reds. ;)

He knew what he was doing, sympathizing with nazis and making this thread racial.

I smell the ban cannon warming up.

[Bud Struggle]

U mean liek

OBAMA CZARS???:scared:

They are everywhere in OI trying to overthrow the Revolution.

[ComradeMan]

He knew what he was doing, sympathizing with nazis and making this thread racial.

I smell the ban cannon warming up.

Indeed- just didn't want him to be a smart ass at your expense. ;)

[Sadena Meti]

I had no idea such a simple question as "What percentage of RevLeft is Restricted?" would lead to all this.

[Le Libérer]

I had no idea such a simple question as "What percentage of RevLeft is Restricted?" would lead to all this.

You just never know, right? We can split the obvious troll obvious posts though it may not leave much left.

[Sadena Meti]

And we got the answer, 10% (11% really).

[Nolan]

They are everywhere in OI trying to overthrow the Revolution.

That's why we keep you in this pit full of troll posts. Only a couple are dumb enough to stay.

[ComradeMan]

That's why we keep you in this pit full of troll posts. Only a couple are dumb enough to stay.

Yeah because Chit-Chat is a fountain of enlightenment! :lol:

[Sadena Meti]

Yeah because Chit-Chat is a fountain of enlightenment! :lol:
I miss Chit-Chat. They trashed my two Do Cats / Dogs Smile threads when they restricted me.

[Rusty Shackleford]

90%

[Nolan]

Yeah because Chit-Chat is a fountain of enlightenment! :lol:


Compared to OI? At least we talk about useful things.

[ComradeMan]

Compared to OI? At least we talk about useful things.


Well, let's see- there is of course the revolutionary Leftist Tattoo project, the Best Rock Band thread, "Pot Smoking Neo Marxists" along with the intriguing If Capitalism was a person and of course
the thread about killing crabs...
:laugh:

[Nolan]

Am I the only one that remembers the pandemic of threads about Mises/libertarianism/anarcho-capitalism?

[Ele'ill]

Well, let's see- there is of course the revolutionary Leftist Tattoo project, the Best Rock Band thread, "Pot Smoking Neo Marxists" along with the intriguing If Capitalism was a person and of course
the thread about killing crabs...
:laugh:

They should move all such chit chat posts like that into one thread and call it Reactionary Chatter.

[Sadena Meti]

They should move all such chit chat posts like that into one thread and call it Reactionary Chatter.

Or create a Chit-Chat subforum of our own. Reactionary Chatter is 1. degrading by its title and 2. chaotic from the one read I gave it.

[Ele'ill]

Or create a Chit-Chat subforum of our own. Reactionary Chatter is 1. degrading by its title and 2. chaotic from the one read I gave it.

Yeah, that's been suggested over and over again and I don't see it happening. For the reasons why I would do a forum search for 'OI' - thread titles- and then review the threads.

[Nolan]

Or create a Chit-Chat subforum of our own. Reactionary Chatter is 1. degrading by its title and 2. chaotic from the one read I gave it.

Just so you know, I proposed that.

They were like NO, CLOSED

[Sadena Meti]

we have:
18000+ unrestricted and not-banned registerd members of which around 5000 posted more than 10 posts
we have an whopping 7000+ banned users of which most are spambots i assume
and than we have an grand total of exactly 583 restricted users.
so if we take that 10 post minimum to define an actual revlefter worthy of mention you'll find that you have about 1 OI for every 10 normal established users

OP answerd, thread closed? :p

Just a minor point. It's 1 in 8.5, not 1 in 10. 11.66%