Hello workers of the free world

[Dragovich]

I took a look at this website and decided that it was well worth joining to partake in some friendly political, religious or just friendly chat.

The name's Dragovich. :cool:

I hope I can enjoy my stay here.

[Sasha]

hey,

can you tell us something about your political ideas and ideals?

[Dragovich]

Well it's kinda hard for me to identify myself to a particular movement. I hold liberal beliefs when it comes to social and economic policy though when it comes to foreign policy, it devolves into self-interest and long terms benefits to my country.

[Iraultzaile Ezkerreko]

So you're a liberal? Just to let you know, you'll probably be restricted to the "Opposing Ideologies" forum but you can still post on many topics and have conversations in there. The reason behind this is that the forum is meant for Revolutionary Leftists to discuss theory and organize.

Anyway, welcome to the forum, perhaps we shall indoctrinate you yet!:lol:

[dernier combat]

To which "free" world were you referring?

[Agent Ducky]

Yeah. Unless you 'elaborate' and show that you're all revolutionary and stuff... I see restriction in your future? =/

Welcome anyways, comrade ^_^

[Agent Ducky]

Although it's possible that Dragovich confused liberal with left-wing. I used to do that too....

[Ocean Seal]

Well it's kinda hard for me to identify myself to a particular movement. I hold liberal beliefs when it comes to social and economic policy though when it comes to foreign policy, it devolves into self-interest and long terms benefits to my country.

When children are starving these are the last two things which you should be thinking about. But if you do think of the first countries generally don't have a foreign policy beneficial to their people but rather to their ruling class. The workers die in a war for the rulers to grab the resources.

[Dragovich]

I actually don't understand the whole restriction thing? Wouldn't it be harder to indoctrinate me? I understand this is a forum for "revolutionary" leftists but aren't people of all ideologies welcome? :c

Depends how left-wing do you have to be revolutionary? In what way? I wish to know.

[Agent Ducky]

I actually don't understand the whole restriction thing? Wouldn't it be harder to indoctrinate me? I understand this is a forum for "revolutionary" leftists but aren't people of all ideologies welcome? :c

Depends how left-wing do you have to be revolutionary? In what way? I wish to know.

Well, the whole point is they want this forum for a place for revolutionary leftists to discuss stuff, not a place for all ideologies to invade everywhere and sit there and fight the commies. We have a forum for that... and there's no fascists allowed. Fascists are not tolerated in this establishment, lol.

I would define being revolutionary as thinking a leftist revolution would be the best way to progress society.

[Dragovich]

Well, the whole point is they want this forum for a place for revolutionary leftists to discuss stuff, not a place for all ideologies to invade everywhere and sit there and fight the commies. We have a forum for that... and there's no fascists allowed. Fascists are not tolerated in this establishment, lol.

I would define being revolutionary as thinking a leftist revolution would be the best way to progress society.

It doesn't mean that people of different ideologies have to fight. Plus surely it gets dull to have everyone agree on everything. If you mean Fascists like Nazis then sure but I know your definition is different.

That's all well and good but does it have to be violent?

[hatzel]

Plus surely it gets dull to have everyone agree on everything.Oh. Oh oh. Oh oh oh...we really don't need to start letting in all the non-revolutionaries to ensure that there is plentiful disagreement round here :lol:

Welcome anyway :)

[Tommy4ever]

It doesn't mean that people of different ideologies have to fight. Plus surely it gets dull to have everyone agree on everything. If you mean Fascists like Nazis then sure but I know your definition is different.

That's all well and good but does it have to be violent?

It would be nice if we could allow people of other views into the rest of the forum to discuss everything nicely. But it really doesn't work out that way. There would be widespread trolling and lots of people coming to try to 'disprove' communism - we get enough of that elsewhere on the internet. But non-leftists are still allowed into the forum - so long as they only post in the Opposing Ideologies section.

I assure you we don't all agree on everything at all. Pretty much the only things we agree on are that racism is bad, gender equality is good and that capitalism should be overthrown. Everything else causes strong debate. :p

This forum uses a pretty loose definition of Fascist. Generally, if you say anything racist or in favour of historical or current fascist groups then you'll get banned for being a fascist.

I'm not sure if the other guys in this thread explained 'revolutionary leftist' to well. Basically, this forum is for anyone who believes capitalism should be overthrown - how this is to be done is another topic of debate.

[ellipsis]

Welcome to the forum! I see you haven't been restricted, so you must be doing something right!

[Le Socialiste]

Welcome to the site. :)

I'm also surprised you haven't been restricted...interesting.

[Blackscare]

Well, there's only 37 posts to this user's name, so there's no real point restricting.

[Dragovich]

I don't see why I would be restricted. I want to know. :)

[CommieTroll]

but aren't people of all ideologies welcome? :c

Depends how left-wing do you have to be revolutionary? In what way? I wish to know.

Right wingers and fascists aren't welcome, maybe you need to spend some time in the learning section?:laugh: Marxists.org has very good reading material for any left learning person too. You seem like an intelligent individual. I suggest reading Capital and The Communist Manifesto first. A great movie to point out the flaws and corruption of Capitalism is ''Capitalism: A Love Story'', its worth a watch

[Admiral Swagmeister G-Funk]

I don't see why I would be restricted. I want to know. :)
You'd be restricted if you fundamentally disagreed with the revolutionary struggle against capitalism. If you think that a revolution is a bad idea, as in you think that the working class should not overthrow the ruling class in order to achieve a better society under a fairer economic and social system, then you will be restricted.

You will also be restricted if you are racist, homophobic, sexist or some other kind of reactionary. This forum is for revolutionary leftists to discuss revolutionary theory and other relevant topics - those that disagree with left-wing revolutionary theory will be restricted.

I guess if you are neutral for now, then there's no reason to restrict you. However, if over time it becomes clear that you disagree fundamentally with the general views this site upholds, then you will be restricted.

[Lyev]

Hiya, welcome
If you're a liberal though, what could attract you to a forum for "revolutionaries"?

[Cork Socialist]

Right wingers and fascists aren't welcome, maybe you need to spend some time in the learning section?:laugh: Marxists.org has very good reading material for any left learning person too. You seem like an intelligent individual. I suggest reading Capital and The Communist Manifesto first. A great movie to point out the flaws and corruption of Capitalism is ''Capitalism: A Love Story'', its worth a watch
Capital can be a bit much for someone just beginning to read about leftist material :S

[Dragovich]

Right wingers and fascists aren't welcome, maybe you need to spend some time in the learning section?:laugh: Marxists.org has very good reading material for any left learning person too. You seem like an intelligent individual. I suggest reading Capital and The Communist Manifesto first. A great movie to point out the flaws and corruption of Capitalism is ''Capitalism: A Love Story'', its worth a watch

Is that the one by Michael Moore? ;)

I'll consider watching it.

[#FF0000]

I actually don't understand the whole restriction thing? Wouldn't it be harder to indoctrinate me? I understand this is a forum for "revolutionary" leftists but aren't people of all ideologies welcome? :c

Depends. Fascists aren't, but different people are welcome to varying degrees. People who are not communists are generally restricted to posting in the OI section of the board (a means to keep the rest of the forum -- which is intended for discussion among leftists -- from being filled up with capitalism vs. communism threads and posts).

It's not really meant to be a punishment, mind you. Even though I think it's a silly way to do things, that's how it works.

[Dragovich]

Depends. Fascists aren't, but different people are welcome to varying degrees. People who are not communists are generally restricted to posting in the OI section of the board (a means to keep the rest of the forum -- which is intended for discussion among leftists -- from being filled up with capitalism vs. communism threads and posts).

It's not really meant to be a punishment, mind you. Even though I think it's a silly way to do things, that's how it works.

Well I'm not that kind of person. I just want to know more about Communism itself and make some friends around here. :)

[L.A.P.]

Plus surely it gets dull to have everyone agree on everything.

Quite the contrary.

[Bostana]

Welcome Comrade

[ВАЛТЕР]

Hello and welcome.

I do agree with "benefit to my country" but I am very against the idea that in order to benefit your own country you must make another people suffer.

The workers around the world are exploited by the same forces whether it is in California, or Cambodia. The bourgeoisie doing the exploiting are very much the same.

The first thing I suggest is you develop an idea of class-consciousness, that is you begin to view people as being in the same position you are regardless of their nationality or religious views.
The working class has no nation to call home...we are all victims of the same enemy. The Capitalist Bourgeoisie.