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spice756
18th April 2011, 22:42
Canadians have witnessed a dot-com bubble, housing bubbles and a green energy bubble. But now, the country is experiencing a "medicare bubble," says a new report being released today by the Fraser Institute, and it's got the provinces headed toward severe financial trouble if the federal government doesn't loosen the constraints of the Canada Health Act.


Read here about the problem causing this.

http://www.nationalpost.com/news/Suspend+health+save+system+study/4632483/story.html


wow I jus said wow today when I read this.

Than I get the talk from the conservative that say the reason countries like USSR and Cuba can have such high number of Doctors and staff per population .

1.They did not have alot of the CT scan and MRI
2.no CEO`s and board of directors ( all run by communist party
3.Doctors and staff got little pay

And I get from center left that say ..

reason health care cost is exploding in US and Canada is mostly 4 reason .

1. aging population
2. the inventions of CT scan and MRI that was not there before.
3. Doctors and staff over pay .
4. CEO`s and board of directors that make $1,000,000 a year.
danyboy27
18th April 2011, 22:53
reason 3 is bullshit, doctors dosnt represent a real problem for the cost of healthcare.

the CEO part is true tho, and also, a lot of mismanagement of ressources.

with a proper management a lot of cost could be cut without problem.

Federalism also represent a certain form of problem, beccause each province can manage its own his own way, there are no Federal overwatch to avoid waste or privatisation of the system, and verry little cooperation between the province to share doctor and ressources.
IndependentCitizen
18th April 2011, 22:55
NHS is running absolutely fine, and after a few years specialising, you can earn up to £89,000 and we've seen the highest levels of satisfaction in record times.

Sounds like right-wing scaremongering.
spice756
18th April 2011, 23:04
NHS is running absolutely fine, and after a few years specialising, you can earn up to £89,000 and we've seen the highest levels of satisfaction in record times.

Sounds like right-wing scaremongering.

Is the NHS the UK system?


Federalism also represent a certain form of problem, beccause each province can manage its own his own way, there are no Federal overwatch to avoid waste or privatisation of the system, and verry little cooperation between the province to share doctor and ressources.

What is wrong with Federalism ?
danyboy27
18th April 2011, 23:08
What is wrong with Federalism ?

Well, nothing beside from the fact that Libertarian and other right wing assoles are using it has an excuse for privatisation and destruction of various social services.
IndependentCitizen
19th April 2011, 11:51
Is the NHS the UK system?





Yeah, essentially the UK was the first to adopt universal healthcare as far as I know.

We nationalised healthcare, mining, and utilities industries just after world war 2 despite have a deficit of 250% ;) So healthcare is affordable, even right now for everyone.
spice756
13th June 2011, 18:32
Yeah, essentially the UK was the first to adopt universal healthcare as far as I know.

We nationalised healthcare, mining, and utilities industries just after world war 2 despite have a deficit of 250% ;) So healthcare is affordable, even right now for everyone.

Okay I understand .Most of the cuts to universal healthcare and other government programs is do to neoliberalism policy in the 90's in Canada .

And with out the NDP or new left the neoliberalism policy is locked in the liberal party platform.And so Canada is slowing turning into like the US.