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RGacky3
17th April 2011, 14:59
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/04/16/raul-castro-term-limits-cuba_n_850141.html

I like the political reforms, but a lot of the economic ones, such as rent and wage labor (even though they are of very very small scale) and cutting food subsidies, I don't like, some of the economic ones I do, such as decentralizing the economy allowing more cooperative autonomy.

Keep in mind this is just Communist party discussions and not in the national assembally yet, when it comes to a vote we don't know yet what will pass.

So is Cuba gonna turn into a China? Or is the socialism and democracy gonna get stronger.

Right now of all the Latin AMerican countries Cuba is doing extremely well, and a lot of the economic problems they talk about in the west, such as the brain drain (really, even though Cuba exports doctors and teachers) and economic stagnation (compared to what, the rest of latin America?), or the lack of democracy (comical comming from Americans) are hyperbolic, so I really hope Cuba is'nt going down the road of China.

TheCultofAbeLincoln
17th April 2011, 19:44
This seems like a big, final circle jerk for a generation of leaders that has been around past their expiration date. Change is very obviously needed and will hopefully be done in a way that most helps the Cuban people.


Right now of all the Latin AMerican countries Cuba is doing extremely well

Overly generalistic and hard to back up.

Even if it were true, being the smartest kid on the short bus isn't saying a lot.



The drought started two years ago, and reservoirs are now down to a fifth of their normal levels.

The government is providing road deliveries of water to more than 100,000 people in the worst affected areas of the capital, Havana.

The situation in Havana is compounded by a pipe network in poor condition.

The state-run newspaper Granma says up to 70% of water pipes supplying the capital are leaking and in urgent need of repair, the BBC's Michael Voss in Havana says.

Residents are having to use buckets and bottles to fill up with water from the road deliveries.

"It's completely out of control," one resident, Ana Gomez, said. "Just imagine that you can't wash when you want to, you have to wash when you are able to."

Another, Enrique Olivera Gonzalez, said: "As there is no water, you can't wash your clothes, cook, or clean your house."

Cubans are hoping the rainy season in May and June will bring some respite. But even a normal rainfall will not be enough to fill up the reservoirs, our correspondent says.


http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-latin-america-13079773?print=true

While the drought may be exposing an unsustainable system of water supply and irrigation, it can be said, I believe, that Cuba is among the only states in Latin America that can handle the crisis as well as they have, due to the quasi-socialist system.

Fulanito de Tal
18th April 2011, 05:44
This seems like a big, final circle jerk for a generation of leaders that has been around past their expiration date.

Why would you use terms like that to refer to that movement? What have you done with your life? These are people just like you, but instead of writing garbage on an internet forum, they risked their lives for it and are constantly in danger of being assassinated. It may not be exactly what you want, but I doubt you have partaken in ridding your country from imperialist forces and attempted to build a socialist society to the extent that they did.



Even if it were true, being the smartest kid on the short bus isn't saying a lot.


That statement says a lot about you.

TheCultofAbeLincoln
18th April 2011, 07:01
Why would you use terms like that to refer to that movement? What have you done with your life? These are people just like you, but instead of writing garbage on an internet forum, they risked their lives for it and are constantly in danger of being assassinated. It may not be exactly what you want, but I doubt you have partaken in ridding your country from imperialist forces and attempted to build a socialist society to the extent that they did.

You have perhaps the most romantic, over-the-top view of the 'movement' and it's leaders I have yet to see on this forum. Congratulations.

Honestly, risking their lives? Are you serious? When Che was going on his missions around the world to spread the good word, obviously he was risking his life. But no man or woman who is President of a country for that many decades should be given praise for 'risking their lives' but rather should be given credit for the staying power. Yes, the revolution was necessary. The next 60+ years? Hopefully the Cuban leadership sees the light at the end of the tunnel, and the announcements made at the congress are a welcome sign.


That statement says a lot about you.

No, it doesn't.

RGacky3
18th April 2011, 08:47
Why would you use terms like that to refer to that movement? What have you done with your life? These are people just like you, but instead of writing garbage on an internet forum, they risked their lives for it and are constantly in danger of being assassinated. It may not be exactly what you want, but I doubt you have partaken in ridding your country from imperialist forces and attempted to build a socialist society to the extent that they did.


So .... Then they get to rule the country till they die ... Is that what revolution is about?


Overly generalistic and hard to back up.

Even if it were true, being the smartest kid on the short bus isn't saying a lot.


Its easy to back up, if you want statistics on poverty, health care and so on.

It is saying a lot, consiering it used to be much much worse, and consideirng it makes sense to compare a latin american country with other latin american countries.

(also it sounds really dickish of you to put it that way).

TheCultofAbeLincoln
18th April 2011, 19:55
Yeah you're both right, my metaphor was offensive and disrespectful.