Royal Wedding Protests on the day?

[Futility Personified]

Does anyone know if these are happening? If so, could someone send me some info? Google for once is not very forthcoming :(

[The Idler]

Republic (http://republic.org.uk/)
Reclaim the Royal Wedding (https://www.facebook.com/event.php?eid=133111743419754)
Beans4Royals (http://www.facebook.com/event.php?eid=136167946440687)

[TC]

the best way to "protest" the royal wedding is to ignore it, the really offensive thing about it is the media hype and nothing about the people actually getting married: its not william and kate's fault there is a monarchy, they didn't choose to be part of the institution it was an accident of luck - its parliament's fault for not abolishing it.

[Lord Testicles]

the best way to "protest" the royal wedding is to ignore it,

Not when they are using our money.

I hope they get doused in shit on their "happy" day.

[southernmissfan]

Not when they are using our money.

I hope they get doused in shit on their "happy" day.

I have actually been told that the money brought in from tourism, media and other things by the monarchy is actually more than the money used to subsidize them. Thus making them a "profitable" institution for the state. Now whether or not that is true I cannot say. All I know is that when my American self suggested to an otherwise progressive Brit that the monarchy should be abolished, this was his reasoning for defending it.

TC, I get your point. But at the end of the day, they could come right out and say "hey guys, this whole business of making us royals is dumb, let's abolish this thing." If the royal family themselves campaigned for its end I am sure it would be more likely to go away. So they ultimately do have some choice in the matter. Though someone going against their inherited interests is rare.

[Lord Testicles]

I have actually been told that the money brought in from tourism, media and other things by the monarchy is actually more than the money used to subsidize them. Thus making them a "profitable" institution for the state. Now whether or not that is true I cannot say. All I know is that when my American self suggested to an otherwise progressive Brit that the monarchy should be abolished, this was his reasoning for defending it.


This is a common defence of the monarchy, but when you think about it for a little bit it suddenly becomes utter bullshit. If there was no monarchy in Britain, tourists would still come to see Buckingham palace, etc. Like how people still visit the palace of Versailles even though France doesn't have a monarch.

[El Chuncho]

This is a common defence of the monarchy, but when you think about it for a little bit it suddenly becomes utter bullshit. If there was no monarchy in Britain, tourists would still come to see Buckingham palace, etc. Like how people still visit the palace of Versailles even though France doesn't have a monarch.


It is bullshit and I have made this point many times to people. People do not come to see a little old lady sitting on the throne, they come to see the crown jewels, the palaces and historic regalia. France is the most visited country in Europe and it hasn't had a monarchy for some time, and people are certainly visiting the museums, palaces and castles in that country. The monarchy is outdated and backwards. The only ''monarchy'' we should have in England is the collection of relics in the museums.

Another thing is that people would be able to see more if the monarchy was abolished. In Windsor Castle you cannot even visit the garden, despite the hype claiming that the people own it! If we own all the palaces and castles that the Queen and co. live in we should force them to pay rent to us or evict them!

[human strike]

My understanding is there is nothing serious planned. Concentrate on May Day and opposing the "Rally Against Debt" on May 14th, comrade.

[El Rojo]

i would advise not protesting in london. the media are hyping the shit out of it "masked extreamists plotting to ruin the nation's very special day" ect ect.

the security will be insanely tight. armed police, numerous helicopters ect ect

there will be massive crowds of frothing daily mail reading fashists who will tear radicals apart if they get the chance

protest locally, write "off with their heads" somewhere prominant, but any attempt to protest in central london will definately land you in a police cell. the only plans that I have heard so far are definate fakes such as this

http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/standard/article-23939865-anarchists-plot-to-wreck-prince-william-and-kate-middletons-wedding-celebration.do

[Red Future]

Found this on the SWP site though it doesn't really count as an active protest

http://www.swp.org.uk/events/29/04/2011/stuff-royal-wedding-party

[bricolage]

i'll be in bed

[TC]

TC, I get your point. But at the end of the day, they could come right out and say "hey guys, this whole business of making us royals is dumb, let's abolish this thing." If the royal family themselves campaigned for its end I am sure it would be more likely to go away. So they ultimately do have some choice in the matter. Though someone going against their inherited interests is rare.

Realistically though thats a very high burden - their family would probably disown them if they renounced the monarchy as an institution. Edward VIII was publicly shamed by the press and the British, Canadian and Australian governments for wanting to marry a divorced foreigner. If basically all your family and friends are dedicated to an institution its pretty hard to challenge it without getting very isolated.

The UK, Canadian, AUS and other commonwealth dominion governments need to abolish the monarchy themselves.

[human strike]

I think there should be some exciting and quirky local stuff happening. In Bristol we're organising Weddings of Mass Distraction.

http://www.facebook.com/event.php?eid=151689724880003

[Nehru]

Realistically though thats a very high burden - their family would probably disown them if they renounced the monarchy as an institution.

So? With their money, looks, and fame, it should be no problem to start afresh. At least, history will remember them as heroes who brought the monarchy down, kind of like a British Buddha.:thumbup1:

[Sir Comradical]

the best way to "protest" the royal wedding is to ignore it, the really offensive thing about it is the media hype and nothing about the people actually getting married: its not william and kate's fault there is a monarchy, they didn't choose to be part of the institution it was an accident of luck - its parliament's fault for not abolishing it.

The best way to protest would be to gather all the royals for a family photo and then roll in the machine guns to liquidate them.
:D

[El Chuncho]

The best way to protest would be to gather all the royals for a family photo and then roll in the machine guns to liquidate them.
:D

True but people would never do that now, because we are ''civilised''. :glare: The royal family would have it coming though.

[Sir Comradical]

True but people would never do that now, because we are ''civilised''. :glare: The royal family would have it coming though.

In all honesty I think that's a little cruel. Mao had the right idea, he forced nobles to become gardeners because of their snobbish aversion to touching soil.

[Red Future]

In all honesty I think that's a little cruel. Mao had the right idea, he forced nobles to become gardeners because of their snobbish aversion to touching soil.

Ditto , Prince Charles would also I reckon be a superior gardener to Pu yi too :laugh:

[IndependentCitizen]

It is bullshit and I have made this point many times to people. People do not come to see a little old lady sitting on the throne, they come to see the crown jewels, the palaces and historic regalia. France is the most visited country in Europe and it hasn't had a monarchy for some time, and people are certainly visiting the museums, palaces and castles in that country. The monarchy is outdated and backwards. The only ''monarchy'' we should have in England is the collection of relics in the museums.

Another thing is that people would be able to see more if the monarchy was abolished. In Windsor Castle you cannot even visit the garden, despite the hype claiming that the people own it! If we own all the palaces and castles that the Queen and co. live in we should force them to pay rent to us or evict them!

I think tourism would increase if people had access to the palace, and other buildings...I'd hate to spend thousands to see a building from the outside, and a soldier with what looks like Marge Simpson's hair, but in black stand around all day. I often wonder what motivates those men...

[The Idler]

Yeah, its probably worth pointing out unless you want to spend May Day in a prison cell, you'd be unwise to try anything even mildly controversial in London during the wedding. For the police locking up radical activists for both these occasions is like killing two birds with one stone.

[bailey_187]

the Muslim Against Crusades people have said they will demonstrate, and the EDL has repsonded by saying they will "protect" the royal family from Muslims and Anarchist with apparently 50 members at every tube station

Also the MAC leader Choudary has said an "attack is likley".

so yeah, shit could kick off big time. probably wont tho.

[bricolage]

seriously allow this shit, this is spectacular to the point that the spectacle loses all meaning, stay in bed, crash some street parties, get drunk and put those robespierre delusions out of your head.

[bailey_187]

lol yeah despite what my picture might make u think im not going

also i didnt mean that the royals will get touched, i doubt that would be possible

[bricolage]

ah I didn't even clock that!
nah it was more of a general point at people who think it's worth trying to do anything political around this.

[Ele'ill]

Yeah, its probably worth pointing out unless you want to spend May Day in a prison cell, you'd be unwise to try anything even mildly controversial in London during the wedding. For the police locking up radical activists for both these occasions is like killing two birds with one stone.

Smoke bombs to conceal the activities like ninjas.

[The Idler]

“Hurrah for the EDL!” (http://hurryupharry.org/2011/04/20/hurrah-for-the-edl/)

[Futility Personified]

Yeah, its probably worth pointing out unless you want to spend May Day in a prison cell, you'd be unwise to try anything even mildly controversial in London during the wedding. For the police locking up radical activists for both these occasions is like killing two birds with one stone.

Yeah, it would seem to be that way. Which is incredibly frustrating, but it doesn't seem to be there is much that can be done.

[Rooster]

The Scottish Socialist Youth are planning a bus trip down there. Check out their facebook if you want to meet up with anyone.

[Spirit]

Why not hold a protest on a popular location in London which is far enough from the wedding place/route/whatever so you don't look like a threat?

[TC]

The best way to protest would be to gather all the royals for a family photo and then roll in the machine guns to liquidate them.
:D

Surely you can distinguish between a powerful monarchy during a civil war who could not be safely kept prisoner for fear that the White Army would return them to power, and utterly impotent constitutional monarchy that has no political or governmental power, whose powers are exercised by the bourgeois elected state.

And, frankly, I'm totally willing to say killing children is wrong no matter who their parents are with regard to the Romanovs. If you're happy to bayonet a 13 year old kid, you should reevaluate your slavish devotion to everything the Soviet government did. I will defend the Soviet Union as a state that was progressive on the balance but I have no need, want, or desire to uphold everything any Soviet government official did no matter how obviously wrong it was - killing the Romanovs falls into that category.

[Futility Personified]

Someone is a bit too serious.... ^^^^^^^^

[Means to a end]

I myself am just going to enjoy the day off work.

[The Guy]

Thought this might be of some interest: story here. (http://thesovetski.blogspot.com/2011/04/boycott-royal-wedding-that-you-are.html)

[Sir Comradical]

Surely you can distinguish between a powerful monarchy during a civil war who could not be safely kept prisoner for fear that the White Army would return them to power, and utterly impotent constitutional monarchy that has no political or governmental power, whose powers are exercised by the bourgeois elected state.

And, frankly, I'm totally willing to say killing children is wrong no matter who their parents are with regard to the Romanovs. If you're happy to bayonet a 13 year old kid, you should reevaluate your slavish devotion to everything the Soviet government did. I will defend the Soviet Union as a state that was progressive on the balance but I have no need, want, or desire to uphold everything any Soviet government official did no matter how obviously wrong it was - killing the Romanovs falls into that category.

Read my last post. Thanks.

[Dr Mindbender]

I have actually been told that the money brought in from tourism, media and other things by the monarchy is actually more than the money used to subsidize them.

Yeah i've heard the tourism argument before.

They would generate more income if you filled them full of sawdust and put them in a glass cabinet.

At least that way people can see them and their maintenance and travel costs would zero.

[Game Girl]

If you insist on this demonstration, then please be peaceful. Please promise that none of you will be violent.

[Manic Impressive]

If you insist on this demonstration, then please be peaceful. Please promise that none of you will be violent.
How would you define violent? but yeah I hope nothing much kicks off but I won't be condemning it if it does.

[Gorilla]

Does this mean CPGB-ML won't be marching under the Uncle Joe banner like they usually do for May Day?

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May 1 in happier times.