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Nothing Human Is Alien
13th April 2011, 10:19
There is a two page spread in the February/March issue of Mark Magazine on "Communism." The main text is a small passage that calls for an "era without ideology." More interesting are the assertions that "communism is still alive" and the appearance in the middle of the United States of the logo of the Communist League and a defunct offshoot of the Communist League.
Here's a scan of one of the pages:
http://img638.imageshack.us/img638/4439/25markfebmar2011scan.jpg
Some more strange aspects: the International Socialist group of Korea is shown around Hong Kong and the the logo of the Spart's international appears around England.
Nothing Human Is Alien
13th April 2011, 10:24
Could a mod put the missing n on the end of extinction?
Sperm-Doll Setsuna
13th April 2011, 10:31
but does not know how to maintain competition, preserve individual freedom and generate public enthusiasm.
:closedeyes:
I wouldn't expect those idiots to be able to get their parties right. Most likely they just googled symbols.
Kiev Communard
13th April 2011, 19:08
It is rather... strange. Why would the architectural journal publish something on politics, moreover, on the politics of "convergence (http://www.allrussias.com/essays/newthink_22.asp)" that was abandoned already in the late 1980s.
Why are you spending €20 on this?
L.A.P.
13th April 2011, 20:25
The map was the only interesting thing about this.
Iraultzaile Ezkerreko
13th April 2011, 23:42
The map was the only interesting thing about this.
You only say that because the PSL logo is GIANT and in the middle of the US. :lol:
Nothing Human Is Alien
14th April 2011, 02:21
Why are you spending €20 on this?
It's one of the best architectural journals in existence. Is there a problem with me purchasing it? (Anyway, it's not €20 here. It's $20, which is unfortunately about the right price for an imported ~230 page full color specialty publication).
The map was the only interesting thing about this.I agree for the most part, though it's interesting that the spread appeared in the journal at all. Also in this issue is a feature interview in which Thom Andersen declares "Criticism of modern architecture is an expression of social conservatism." That quote is displayed on the cover.
black magick hustla
14th April 2011, 05:13
it depends what you called "communism". if it is "state capitalism" then the bosses already know that. this is the era of world state capitalism. laissez faire people are dinosaurs.
Comrade J
14th April 2011, 14:20
This article must be correct, because architecture magazines are renowned for their excellent political analysis and polemics.
Bring on the merger of capitalism and communism.
L.A.P.
14th April 2011, 21:07
You only say that because the PSL logo is GIANT and in the middle of the US. :lol:
Don't forget about the other parties especially the Communist Party of Cuba.
Gorilla
14th April 2011, 21:14
Don't forget about the other parties especially the Communist Party of Cuba.
PLP is enormous. w00t for jumping directly to communism.
Martin Blank
14th April 2011, 21:26
More interesting are the assertions that "communism is still alive" and the appearance in the middle of the United States of the logo of the Communist League and a defunct offshoot of the Communist League.
I didn't see the logo for the pirates who created the so-called "Communist Workers League". For the U.S., I saw the "official" Communist Party USA, the Progressive Labor Party, the Party for Socialism and Liberation, Workers Power U.S., the Communist League, the Freedom Road Socialist Organization [Freedom Road], and the Workers Party of America (legal face of the CP in the 1920s). I have a sneaking suspicion that the use of the WPA logo was an attempt to include my organization, the Workers Party in America. Incidentally, the Communist League formally dissolved into the WPA at the end of 2010.
Threetune
14th April 2011, 21:58
The point is surely that they (architect journalists) are attempting an understanding of these things, because of the growing revolutionary crisis.
Reznov
14th April 2011, 22:25
I want to read it.
The Vegan Marxist
14th April 2011, 22:30
Although I'm pretty sure it gives out revisionist idealism or social-democratic definitions of how this journal sees as "communism", I still find it very interesting that we're now witnessing a more favorable view outside of capitalist ideology. People around the world can see and now feel the effects of capitalism and are sick and tired of it. The disciplined embrace communism in real-terms, whereas the idealists embrace a "purest", utopian, or social-democratic "communism". Either way, it's a step in the right direction IMO.
28350
14th April 2011, 22:32
It's a pretty good graphic if nothing else
L.A.P.
14th April 2011, 22:56
It's a pretty good graphic if nothing else
Agreed, can the OP please post the other pages of the graphic?
Pretty Flaco
14th April 2011, 23:02
I don't understand how you could do politics without political ideologies.
Le Socialiste
15th April 2011, 01:51
I don't understand how you could do politics without political ideologies.
I have to agree, here. The basic constructs that make up one's ideology will always remain. Political ideologies/movements come and go, but the basic concept is always there. Besides, didn't Fukuyama declare the end of history (and with it the end of ideologies) nineteen years ago? We saw how accurate that was...:rolleyes:
It is curious that an architectural journal would publish this kind of article...
Nothing Human Is Alien
15th April 2011, 02:09
I didn't see the logo for the pirates who created the so-called "Communist Workers League". For the U.S., I saw the "official" Communist Party USA, the Progressive Labor Party, the Party for Socialism and Liberation, Workers Power U.S., the Communist League, the Freedom Road Socialist Organization [Freedom Road], and the Workers Party of America (legal face of the CP in the 1920s). I have a sneaking suspicion that the use of the WPA logo was an attempt to include my organization, the Workers Party in America. Incidentally, the Communist League formally dissolved into the WPA at the end of 2010.
I was talking about the WPoA logo. Didn't the Communist Workers League people use that logo? I have a PDF somewhere of something they put out and that logo was on it, though it may have had the text removed. Since the WPoA doesn't exist, I connected the two. Maybe I shouldn't have. Or maybe they were trying to include the WPiA. Or maybe they just resorted to google without looking into it. Difficult to say.
Sun at Eight
15th April 2011, 03:24
Something like this (perhaps done more accurately with relative size related to estimate members and with logos in the right countries) would be a trainspotter's dream desktop picture.
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