Got a Police Scanner I'm getting rid off

[Sadena Meti]

I'm selling a police scanner on eBay

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=280659103806

If you win and tell me you are from RevLeft, I'll cut the final price in half.

Sort of capitalistic but I figured someone here might want an inexpensive scanner.

[Bitter Ashes]

While this is very cool. I don't know what the law is in the USA. In the UK it's a criminal offence to own a scanner, or listen in on police broadcasts, although to do so has got A LOT harder since they brought in TETRA.

Just be careful, ok? :)

[Sadena Meti]

In the US is it's legal, I think in every state. If you interfere with police business, now that's a crime.

[Sasha]

in the netherlands it was the same, sadly they now went encrypted digital.
technically its still legal to uncrypt the signal sadly i havent seen anyone yet who managed to break the encryption.

[Moopy]

I think most places have gone to digital. I know there are a few places where you can listen to the channels on the internet for your local place.

[Bitter Ashes]

To wrap your head around the new digital systems you have to understand that it's not actualy a digital radio signal that's being broadcast like that what you get to your TV or one of those new fancy DAB radios. Instead it's a wide range wireless computer network. Specialist equipment is required to even begin decrypting

[Dr Mindbender]

If you do own one how are they able to track it down? If its a 2 way radio i cant see it happening unless you are a silly bugger and plug in a mic.

I know a funny anecdote that happened at Farnborough. Apparently a young child, no more than 10 years old had access to a scanner around the time of the local airshow. He was able to pick up the radio chatter from none other than an overhead passing B2 Stealth bomber, effectively rendering $2 billion worth of warfaring worthless. Lulz.

[Sadena Meti]

They can't track a receive only FM scanner. They can just find it through an old fashioned search of your car, person, or home.

[Sadena Meti]

To wrap your head around the new digital systems you have to understand that it's not actually a digital radio signal that's being broadcast like that what you get to your TV or one of those new fancy DAB radios. Instead it's a wide range wireless computer network. Specialist equipment is required to even begin decrypting

All you would really need is a stolen handset, pull the encryption/decryption chip, which can't be that complicated because it has to do this live and off battery power (consider the Clipper Chip of the mid 90's and Fortezza of the late 90's), and then hook it up to an EEPROM reader and reverse engineer it. Way beyond my (current) abilities but a criminal syndicate could certainly hire someone to do it.

In fact, true story, the first "encryption" of cell phone communications was just BIT INVERSION. They changed the 1's to 0's and the 0's to 1's, creating a sort of "negative" of the transmission. Guess how hard that was the crack?

[Sadena Meti]

I know a funny anecdote that happened at Farnborough. Apparently a young child, no more than 10 years old had access to a scanner around the time of the local airshow. He was able to pick up the radio chatter from none other than an overhead passing B2 Stealth bomber, effectively rendering $2 billion worth of warfaring worthless. Lulz.

This makes perfect sense because while I am sure the B2 has encrypted communications up the ass, they have to broadcast in the "open" to talk to ground control at the air show. No great cock-up there.

[Sadena Meti]

I think most places have gone to digital. I know there are a few places where you can listen to the channels on the internet for your local place.


Far more have gone to trunking, which is often mistaken as going digital. In this scenario, they use multiple frequencies for one operation. The brass is on one, the ops are on another, snipers on a third, but they are all trunked together so you can listen without changing frequencies and the signals don't overlap. Even send and receive are on different frequencies.

[Sadena Meti]

Funny thing is I'm getting a lot of international bids on this one. Place where police are less likely to use trunking or digital. And probably places where scanners are illegal :D

[Agent Ducky]

Lol I love how it's like "you can listen to police, fire department, and NASCAR." Nascar... lol

[Sadena Meti]

Lol I love how it's like "you can listen to police, fire department, and NASCAR." Nascar... lol

More and more of the scanner market is being aimed at NASCAR. I think this one even has a little NASCAR logo on it, but I'm not sure I boxed it up. NASCAR's popularity is just amazing and sick.

EDIT - Yup, just checked, it has a little NASCAR logo.

[Bitter Ashes]

All you would really need is a stolen handset, pull the encryption/decryption chip, which can't be that complicated because it has to do this live and off battery power (consider the Clipper Chip of the mid 90's and Fortezza of the late 90's), and then hook it up to an EEPROM reader and reverse engineer it. Way beyond my (current) abilities but a criminal syndicate could certainly hire someone to do it.

In fact, true story, the first "encryption" of cell phone communications was just BIT INVERSION. They changed the 1's to 0's and the 0's to 1's, creating a sort of "negative" of the transmission. Guess how hard that was the crack?
The hard part is that every handset has a login and profile which is granted by the central office. If somebody is on the network who isn't supposed to be then alarm bells start ringing. You'd have to find a way to make a fake profile AND discuise it from the network. I wouldn't even know where to start on such a thing. Best way to think of it is like trying to get onto a highly encryted Teamspeak server without anyone noticing.

[stella2010]

They can't track a receive only FM scanner. They can just find it through an old fashioned search of your car, person, or home.

Yeh thats right…

In Newcastle Australia it has happend a few times…Them old homes have huuge arials, they have even been known to pick up on FBI and NSA signals globally. No kidding.

I was loiving nearby and had my private room I rented rummaged through by 6 cops, two in suits,ugly they were. All the idiots took was my microphone stand pole and some matches. What dumb fucks…their exuse... they said there were load sounds out the back…haha…it was next doors party students that are making fireworks and they still probably are. :lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:

[danyboy27]

I am looking for a scanner for a while, i will be betting soon.

[danyboy27]

can i bid if i got a canadian account?
EDIT:nevermind, it work.
i am the highest bidder so far...