British atrocities during the Greek Civil War

[A.J.]

I read here (http://inter.kke.gr/News/2006new/2006-09-ciivl2/) that back in 1986 a documentary broadcast on Channel 4, called The Hidden War, was banned from ever being shown on British TV again. Obviously, for such a policy to have been pursued the content of the aforementioned programme must have incurred the furious wrath of the British ruling class and their lickspittle lackies(e.g. trotskyites and other variaties of social democrat).
Anyway, I was just wondering if there any material out there(other than the sources on the KKE website) documenting British involvement in the conflict as I can't find much myself. Once again the British imperialists have covered their tracks pretty well.

[Jimmie Higgins]

You can read a summary of it in "A People's History of the World" ... by a Trotskyist.

[Queercommie Girl]

A People's History of the World by Chris Harman is one of the best history books ever written.

[Comrade Wolfie's Very Nearly Banned Adventures]

A People's History of the World by Chris Harman is one of the best history books ever written.

Oh god no.

[Queercommie Girl]

Oh god no.

Long Live Chris Harman!

Long Live the Peoples of the World!

[Comrade Wolfie's Very Nearly Banned Adventures]

Long Live Chris Harman!

Long Live the Peoples of the World!

He's dead.

[Tim Finnegan]

A People's History of the World by Chris Harman is one of the best history books ever written.
Isn't that the one which claims tenant farming only developed after the Germanic migrations? :confused:

[Pretty Flaco]

I read here (http://inter.kke.gr/News/2006new/2006-09-ciivl2/) that back in 1986 a documentary broadcast on Channel 4, called The Hidden War, was banned from ever being shown on British TV again. Obviously, for such a policy to have been pursued the content of the aforementioned programme must have incurred the furious wrath of the British ruling class and their lickspittle lackies(e.g. trotskyites and other variaties of social democrat).
Anyway, I was just wondering if there any material out there(other than the sources on the KKE website) documenting British involvement in the conflict as I can't find much myself. Once again the British imperialists have covered their tracks pretty well.

Is that even necessary?

[Sir Comradical]

I read here (http://inter.kke.gr/News/2006new/2006-09-ciivl2/) that back in 1986 a documentary broadcast on Channel 4, called The Hidden War, was banned from ever being shown on British TV again. Obviously, for such a policy to have been pursued the content of the aforementioned programme must have incurred the furious wrath of the British ruling class and their lickspittle lackies(e.g. trotskyites and other variaties of social democrat).
Anyway, I was just wondering if there any material out there(other than the sources on the KKE website) documenting British involvement in the conflict as I can't find much myself. Once again the British imperialists have covered their tracks pretty well.

What do they have to do with anything? Lolwut - even the guy with the cheesy Mercader cartoon as his DP thinks it's unnecessary.

[ComradeOm]

Obviously, for such a policy to have been pursued the content of the aforementioned programme must have incurred the furious wrath of the British ruling class and their lickspittle lackies(e.g. trotskyites and other variaties of social democrat)Hmmm? Far more relevant to Greece than the position of the Trot fringe in Britain was the blind eye turned by Stalin. He abided by his 'percentages agreement' with Churchill and remained at best ambivalent, and at worst hostile, to the Greek rising. The Soviet Union provided little direct aid to the rebels and repeatedly used the KKE as a brake on rebel ambitions. The Soviets were happy to allow Britain to expand its influence in Greece so long as they were given a free hand to do the same in Romania and Bulgaria

[Sir Comradical]

Hmmm? Far more relevant to Greece than the position of the Trot fringe in Britain was the blind eye turned by Stalin. He abided by his 'percentages agreement' with Churchill and remained at best ambivalent, and at worst hostile, to the Greek rising. The Soviet Union provided little direct aid to the rebels and repeatedly used the KKE as a brake on rebel ambitions. The Soviets were happy to allow Britain to expand its influence in Greece so long as they were given a free hand to do the same in Romania and Bulgaria

Ohh please, the KKE dug their own grave. Far more relevant than Stalin turning a blind eye was the fanatic loyalty of the KKE leadership to Moscow. ELAS already had enough of their own arms and didn't need any serious direct aid from the USSR. Plus they had 80% of Greece under their control and a good relationship with the Yugoslav Army anyway but they managed to fuck that up as well. When the Tito-Stalin split happened the KKE found a new way of shooting themselves in the foot by siding with Moscow when their obvious allies were in Belgrade. The Yugoslav army closed the borders, ended military cooperation and the KKE managed to hammer the final nail in their own coffin.

All I'm saying is that blaming Stalin is overly simplistic when the KKE did everything in their power to ensure defeat! Partisans capable of liberating their country from fascists should be capable of making their own decisions. Had they been successful in taking Greece do you think Stalin would have opposed their victory? Of course not.

[ComradeOm]

Ohh please, the KKE dug their own grave. Far more relevant than Stalin turning a blind eye was the fanatic loyalty of the KKE leadership to MoscowOh I fully agree that unswerving loyalty to Moscow was a major handicap for not just the KKE but a host of CPs across Europe from the late 1920s onwards. This rendered them essentially pawns used to further Russian strategic interests. All of which not only suited Moscow perfectly but had been actively encouraged for the better part of two decades. The KKE might not have been "fanatically loyal" if it had not been subjected to repeated Soviet interference (under the guise of the Comintern) in determining its structures, its leadership, its basic policy positions, etc, etc, from 1927 onwards

Thus we have to consider both the specific charges of discouraging the Greek Communists from pursuing a revolutionary line and the broader process by which the KKE was stripped of all real capacity for independent action so as to make it more responsive to Moscow's diktats. The fault was not Stalin's personally but that of a 'Stalinism' which was more interested in compliant servants to the Soviet state than encouraging any genuinely revolutionary policies

[A.J.]

Found this.....

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qch1f8MBJCo&feature=related

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3KBHnoXKCNk&feature=watch_response

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9RRpd5w6VYw&feature=watch_response

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