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Nem Lawford
6th April 2011, 10:03
Hello, comrades. I'm from the midwest in the United States. I live in a very conservative state and as a child was always taught about how socialism and communism were the most evil things on the planet. For a long time I believed that under socialism everyone would receive a paycheck for the same amount no matter how much work they did, if any. That's what my parents taught me and that was even taught in the schools.

Later in high school I started seeing all the problems of the world. All the injustices that they never taught us about. Sure, my school taught me about slavery and the civil rights movement. But they always painted a picture of America being a land of perfection since then. I never learned about gay rights or American imperialism. I never learned about our "heroes" (thug soldiers) killing civilians.

I began wondering about why the rich have so much and the poor so little. I was taught the rich were successful and hardworking but it didn't make a lot of sense to me. Why would a Mexican immigrant who works 12 hour days of hard manual labor earn so little compared to some rich white executive? I started thinking that money should represent contribution to society. I asked myself if a CEO who earns $5 million per year really works 100x harder than someone who earns $50,000 per year. The answer was no. They didn't work more hours and the actual work they did wasn't any more difficult.

Then I entered college and had a true awakening. I took a political science course from a professor who was not the least bit shy about admitting he was a socialist. He said it from day one and taught us his views. One thing in particular that stuck with me was when he mentioned how "workers earn less than the wealth they produce". He taught us the truth about socialism and the lies the capitalist tell.

In the past couple of years I've done a little research on Scandinavia and how they always rank at the top of the Human Development Index (HDI) thanks to social programs. That's what did it for me and ultimately sold me on the idea of socialism. I know some of you who are more hardcore will debate about whether those countries are truly socialist. I think of it like a spectrum and clearly they come out leaning more left than the United States. These nations are much more liberal and always rank better on things like health care, standard of living, education, and equality.

I'm of course still learning more about socialism. I'm ignorant on some issues, so you'll have to forgive me. I'm always willing to learn more and I hope RevLeft can help me do that. Thank you very much for having such a great community.

Dunk
6th April 2011, 16:53
Welcome.

I'm also from a Midwestern state - Ohio. I completely understand where you're coming from as far as the conditioning or propaganda against socialism or communism while growing up.

As of right now, you're right to assume that some of the more "hardcore" members here will chafe against where you stand right now - but not to worry. That you're here and you're aware there is something wrong with capitalism is enough of a starting point.

Since many of the members here, myself included, would disagree that Scandinavia is socialist, I'd like to suggest to you some anti-capitalist literature to read rather than berate you or to immediately jump into an argument - because that isn't comradely behavior. I'd suggest picking up some beginners material, maybe The Case for Socialism by Alan Maas. I'd also suggest picking up Capital Vol. 1 by Karl Marx, and perhaps also A Companion to Marx's Capital and The Enigma of Capital: And the Crises of Capitalism - both by David Harvey.

You could also check out http://www.youtube.com/user/brendanmcooney and watch his videos or visit his website at http://kapitalism101.wordpress.com/. Brendan Mcooney is brilliant, and his material is easily understandable to the novice.

EDIT: In fact, I'd recommend http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Duxkrv4fSe4 and especially Part II, since it is the real explanation of what capitalism is.

The Man
6th April 2011, 17:20
Welcome! If you have any questions, just ask :cool:

Lunatic Concept
6th April 2011, 17:36
Heres my favorite short description of socialism. :)
http://www.marxists.org/archive/pankhurst-sylvia/1923/socialism.htm

Kassad
6th April 2011, 17:37
Welcome to the forum! Check out the learning section and feel free to ask questions. I'm from Ohio, so it's nice to see someone else is in the general area.

NoOneIsIllegal
6th April 2011, 23:18
Welcome to the boards from a fellow Midwesterner. I lived in Omaha my whole life until recently, and now live on the other end of the Midwest. So glad to have you here.

Good to see you're coming along. Feel free to look around and ask any questions.

ellipsis
16th April 2011, 04:28
Welcome, enjoy learning more?

Decembrist
22nd April 2011, 02:27
I'd also suggest picking up Capital Vol. 1 by Karl Marx, and perhaps also A Companion to Marx's Capital and The Enigma of Capital: And the Crises of Capitalism - both by David Harvey.

Agreed. David Harvey also has made his course dealing with Karl Marx's Capital Volume I in 13 video lectures available at his website.

I find the lectures very helpful as I read through the text.

Ostrinski
22nd April 2011, 02:35
Welcome. I'm from Kentucky, so I can wholeheartedly relate to the reactionary upbringing. I also came upon socialism in the same manner.

☭The Revolution☭
22nd April 2011, 02:41
Which state are you from?

Impulse97
22nd April 2011, 03:33
Welcome!

I'm from Illinois and I too have seen the reactionary shit they feed us here. Everyone gobbles it up like its the heaven sent truth.:laugh:

We've even got a hardcore Tea Partyer in Congress...:crying: