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Coggeh
6th April 2011, 00:58
I know i know i know i know i know i know: CWIer having a dig at the SWP im sorry. But its really bugging right now comments of an SWP TD (mp) here in ireland said on tv tonight :

When asked by a right wing journalist about what he would do about corporation tax (currently its 12.5%; extremely low) he said he would raise it to latvian/estonian levels because that would be fair. This and so many other things the SWP/PBP whatever have been calling for which are completely reformist, i understand the need to be transitional when making demands or pointing to objectives but stuff like if we using the bailout money from the banks and raise taxes we'll stop the crisis and everything will be fine.

The SP made the same demands pre-election but as political points to try and show the exploitation of the state and where the states interests lie(big business) and where they don't (working class) we don't endorse this as the solution to the crisis but the SWP clearly do judging by their failure to point to the need to end capitalism and the market system. They need to drop the minimum program and stop moving to the right.

I can't speak for the organisation elsewhere but if any SWPers from Ireland are here i would like to here any opinions otherwise.

Q
6th April 2011, 07:45
Ireland is a good example of why a national road out of capitalism is a dead end. The moment the taxes are raised after all, the transnationals that have moved their office to there will move to some greener patches of grass in Eastern Europe or some other tax paradise. This is exactly why we need a trans-European solution if we want to pose a positive alternative to capitalism.

If the SWP TD really poses such "solutions" than that does perhaps say something about how the SWP has no actual vision of what is needed, so it then inevitably collapses towards Keynesian tinkering.

IndependentCitizen
6th April 2011, 10:43
*sigh*....