Do the tax loopholes prove that the Democrats/Republicans are different sides of the

[tradeunionsupporter]

Do the tax loopholes prove that the Democrats/Republicans are different sides of the same coin the Democrats claim to support a Progressive Income Tax ?

[Pretty Flaco]

You can't say they're "two sides of the same coin". They're similar in their economic stance, which is to preserve capitalism and the status quo, but they take very different approaches to that, with the republicans drawing on traditionalism and the democrats trying to seem more progressive.

[RGacky3]

Do you read the responses to your threads?

[Revolution starts with U]

I think a lot more than tax loopholes show democrats and republicans are two sides of the same coin :lol:
American politics is like Bernie Sanders & Dennis Kucinich v Republican/Democrat v Ron Paul

[Pretty Flaco]

I think a lot more than tax loopholes show democrats and republicans are two sides of the same coin :lol:
American politics is like Bernie Sanders & Dennis Kucinich v Republican/Democrat v Ron Paul

Too bad even social dems get demonized here.

[eric922]

I think a lot more than tax loopholes show democrats and republicans are two sides of the same coin :lol:
American politics is like Bernie Sanders & Dennis Kucinich v Republican/Democrat v Ron Paul To he honest, Bernie Sanders and Dennis Kucinch are among the only decent politicians in D.C. Sanders actually considers himself a socialist, granted he is a democratic socialist, but in American politics that takes a lot of courage and is a big step in the right direction.

[Revolution starts with U]

To be fair, I disagree with any halfway economic stance Ron Paul ever takes, but I think he's a decent and honest guy.
He does piss me off when I half to keep telling people that because he's "against war" doesn't mean he gives a fuck about you or y/our prosperity... but either way, he's cool for a republican.

[Tablo]

Protectionist vs Anti-Protections.

[eric922]

To be fair, I disagree with any halfway economic stance Ron Paul ever takes, but I think he's a decent and honest guy.
He does piss me off when I half to keep telling people that because he's "against war" doesn't mean he gives a fuck about you or y/our prosperity... but either way, he's cool for a republican. Ron Paul does seem like a halfway decent individual and his opposition to war is the right stance, but his economic polices are bullshit.
Just curious, what do you think of Sanders? I'm curious to hear what other members of the revolutionary left thinks of him? I will admit, I'm a fan. He is one of the few people in Congress I respect even if he isn't left enough for me.

[Revolution starts with U]

Ron Paul does seem like a halfway decent individual and his opposition to war is the right stance, but his economic polices are bullshit.
Just curious, what do you think of Sanders? I'm curious to hear what other members of the revolutionary left thinks of him? I will admit, I'm a fan. He is one of the few people in Congress I respect even if he isn't left enough for me.

I used to listen to him on Thom Hartman when i had XM. I like Sanders a lot. For a mainstream american politician, he's about as real as it gets.
I think he's really just what a democrat should be, rather than a socialist. I think he just uses the term because it's supposed to be a boogeyman.
I support him in his ill-fated efforts at reform.. I guess. But I doubt he's prepared to implement immediate revolutionary change to the economic structure.

[cb9's_unity]

Too bad even social dems get demonized here.

Even social dems? You serious?

Social Democrats have a glorious history of doing one thing: upholding capitalism. Take a look at what happened in Germany after WWI and you'll see that when things get serious, social dems centrist (or worse).

Modern social democrats are nothing more than the responsible side of bourgeois interests. They realize how bad things would be if the conservatives get their way, and how destabilizing a factor that would be for capitalism in general.

The last century gave social democracy its chance. At particular times they have had widespread power, and they haven't done anything to move towards socialism. Instead they make sacrifices to keep parliamentary power until eventually bourgeois interests grow tired of them and let the conservatives drunkenly take the keys for a while.

[RGacky3]

I used to listen to him on Thom Hartman when i had XM. I like Sanders a lot. For a mainstream american politician, he's about as real as it gets.
I think he's really just what a democrat should be, rather than a socialist. I think he just uses the term because it's supposed to be a boogeyman.
I support him in his ill-fated efforts at reform.. I guess. But I doubt he's prepared to implement immediate revolutionary change to the economic structure.

Sanders is really the only one in the senate with his head on totally straight, maybe him and Franklin, Fiengold I actually thought was smarter than sanders, but he's out.

From what I've read he is a socialist in the sense that he supports a democratic economy, he's done a lot of the cooperative movement as well, he's not a revolutionary socialist at all, but he's a great voice for real progressivism in the Senate.

Theres a couple good ones in the house too.

[eric922]

Sanders is really the only one in the senate with his head on totally straight, maybe him and Franklin, Fiengold I actually thought was smarter than sanders, but he's out.

From what I've read he is a socialist in the sense that he supports a democratic economy, he's done a lot of the cooperative movement as well, he's not a revolutionary socialist at all, but he's a great voice for real progressivism in the Senate.

Theres a couple good ones in the house too. Speaking of the House, am I the only who loves it when Anthony Wiener goes on his anti-GOP rants? The other day he read from some children's book on how laws are made in response to Eric Cantor's budget bill.

[RGacky3]

I'd love to see that, Wiener does great speaches.