Dude, I'm a Restricted Member!

[Ctisphonics]

I just became a restricted member, and all I had to do was call protest Felicia's reactionary tendancies to persecute conscientious avent-gardist on these boards by calling her Senator Felicia McCarthy. So I won the honor of being channeled to this board with all the other 'undesirables'--- the Che-lives Siberia.

I guess when when it comes down to it, a communist fart smells sweeter than a regular person's, a communist rants and curses are more appeasing to the ears of the ruling clique. Why should this be..... I took my cue on etiquette of arguement from the great communist on these boards... Hugo, Felicia, Del Furgo (what ever his name is), ect. It's of the same substance, same character, I just don't always agree with what's written by the orthodox.

I've also joked around, but it's nothing outrageous; besides, I've seen a good many people on these boards to similar things. I started posts on Philosophy and Classical Music, talked about Soviet/Turkish invasion of Armenia, the various communist groups that exsist in the United States, American Perspectives on International Communism and their propaganda, engadged in discussions what Anarchy was and why it wouldn't work ( I actually defended Communism in that one!)...... heck, I even recommened changes in the structure of the Commie Club so as to advoid arguements between the staff and improving it's organizational structure so as to reap more rewards from it's member's creative impulses..... and what do I get.......... THIS RESTRICTION!!!!! No wonder why everyone was scared to visit Stalin on his deathbed!

Don't take me wrong, this is a gift form the fates, I accept it warmly. It proves to me that free thinkers in a Communist Society are predetermined to a life of oppression, as well as re-affirms my old quotation "If you live in a totalitarian state, assassination is considered death by natural causes." Ctisphonics

I have re-affirmed time and time again......I'm not an of a Ideology, nor class. I can't break a mold for I was never molded. I built myself up ideologically from my perception of primitive Altruism steming from my youth living in harsh conditions.....many of my beliefs are in line with Socialism, even Communism (I'm a big Jack London fan, he's listed in my American Literature section of my website, he was a communist long before 1917), But I do not follow blindly! I need to know why a particular tactic is being used, why a stratagem is promoted, and their relationship to the grand strategy. What is the aim, is the strategy motivated for the fulfillment this aim(s), why do we have this or that aim in the first place- why not another? How do you deal with contradicitons? These are not question to ask a short-sighted commissar looking for promotion or recognition. You claim to want debate......you complain about a lack of Capitalist on these boards? Wonder where they all went!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! T'ai Kung laughs at you!

I don't want pity, though feel fine to throw offense at me. Know what it is like to attack a minority who can't help but be the way they are, predetermined by nature to live with certain characteristics. One's desires are a reflection as much of Nurture as Nature, I was taught to fight for what I believe in, and seek to do good- this is in line with my biological traits- ever since I was a child I've had a strong moral sense (as well as that of Irony) gained from Reasoning on my own accord. This is as much a part of a unchangable part of me as my skin color or other physical characteristics.

"Liberate the Oppressed- Free the Mind!" My new motto from now on. Even if there is a discussion in the future and it's decided I'm allowed back in, I'm not going to go unless Che-lives changes the way it deals with people. Where is my right to appeal...... when was I told I was in the wrong and what the consequences were. I've read posts on these boards about the staff doing this to others...... and how sorry a lot of people were for them not being around anymore. Did I at anytime advocate an act of Violence.....say Racial Slurs.....even make fun of Che or say something offensive about him? If I did, link it to this post and let me see it, give me a chance to defend myself!

I call for Universal Freedom of Expression, true democracy cannot exsist without it! What good is a revolution if the people can't communicate with one another about thier state of being....... what potential does a revolution have if the people lack a understanding of other people's points of views? Mao's Subjective-Objective measurements for success cannot be made from a one-track mind, your dooming yourselfs to dogmamtic thinking, and as a result, DEFEAT. My goal is now to carry this stigma (restricted member status) and use it as a focus, a light, to usher in the age of enlightenment that has taken so long to reach the ruling clique here. Embrace the light friends!!!!!!!!!!! Utilize foresight to perceive the results of your actions- it does not have to be that way, WE CAN CHANGE IT FOR THE BETTER! We must strive to break the the hold of totalitarianism that has taken root in Socialism in the last 150 years (a 150 years of repeated failures stemming from this very reason). This attack upon my speech is just another new expression of this ancient trend. Today me, tomorrow Liberal and Conservative Communist on the fringes, then members of the Hierarchy, then the middle.......then chaos after the death of the Emperor? Power Politics.....funny thing is, I never wanted power, just debate. Didn't even want to be in the Commie Club, happy enough being able to associate with peons.

"I feared the Emperor long before I knew what a Rebublic was." Ctisphonics

Ever wondered why I said I was a big fan of Marius Gaius? The above is a fear from deep within that defines my being; Marius was the only one to stand up for Rome against Sulla in the name of the Republic; a Republic in collapse..yes, a senate he new was corrupt.... but one he believed could be salvage for the good it once manifested. He died in the attemt, the maddness of society over took him causing reciprical maddness within himself, and the Cesears reigned for 1800 years till 1776. Now, Totalitarianism has found a foothold once again. PEOPLE OF THE BOARDS, RISE UP AND TRIUMPHENTLY PROCLAIM TO ALL WHO SILENCE YOU: "Democracy or Death" "Better to die on your feet than live on your knees!" "Freedom of Expression is Brutus' Dagger!".
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So, who else is in the same boat as me here in my new home on Devil's Island? I see some guy running around with a picture of President Reagan on these boards.....A good man, better actor than president, but as presidents go, an Ok one. I'm not a Capitalist, just think it's more alined with the needs of the people than the other ideologies, so I begrudgely support it. I'm a American too, going into the Army. People may complain the politicians are bad for whatever reason, but have yet to hear anyone in the West complain our soldiers are bad people. It's one of the few chapters of public service open to men of my age that's still respectable-despite the stereotypes of the hippies pass around.

[Vinny Rafarino]

I love reading these rants...especially when they ALWAYS make several notes of "it does not matter to them" while writing a thesis sized tome...Of course it does not matter to you dear.

[Ctisphonics]

OKay hunny, I'll remember that when your running around on my web-boards in a year or two. I've only been here a few days, not too attached yet. I'm not dependent upon others for debate(since I'll have my own site soon enough), just know the repercussions of your policies, a study of history will tell you what your to reap. Banned or not, I can assure you, you'll see me again in the bookstores.

[canikickit]

I got pretty bored reading through that, Ctisphon, so I didn't bother finishing it. I remember reading some of your posts where you came across as a condesending asshole. You sure come across as a bit of a schmuck above too.

Anyway, it's quite simple; you said that you support capitalism, supporters of capitalism are not productive in a discussion about the implementation of communism.

here (http://www.che-lives.com/forum/index.php?act=ST&f=8&t=17203)

I don't really think I support you being restricted, I'm quite sure you have some "left-wing" ideals, but you sure are an asshole.

I don't know, maybe you're not so bad, but this arrogant intellectualism is pretty ridiculous.

[Urban Rubble]

I don't know, you don't seem that bad to me. I don't remember reading any of your posts though, so I can't really say. What did you do to get restricted ?


I just became a restricted member, and all I had to do was call protest Felicia's reactionary tendancies to persecute conscientious avent-gardist on these boards by calling her Senator Felicia McCarthy.

Well, you may be an asshole like Cani said, but with this kind of thinking, you can't be all that bad. I too have tried to change Felicia's reactionary, nationalist mind. It has not worked. Check out my signature.

[nagasaki]

You deserve to be restricted. In fact, you deserve to be placed against a wall and shot because you are a little asshole. Why are you an asshole? You're arrogant and you lead a personal, private life. You are a fucking liberal! You are no communist. You wouldn't last two weeks after the revolution. You are far too self-obsessed. Stop thinking of yourself. You need to learn how to humiliate yourself so that your not so caught up in "how good you are." You are a fuckhead liberal. That's all. Now go take off your pants!!!! You need to be cornholed. Trust me. It WILL help you out, you conceited prick. :(

[Vinny Rafarino]

Originally posted by [email protected] 21 2003, 01:03 AM
OKay hunny, I'll remember that when your running around on my web-boards in a year or two. I've only been here a few days, not too attached yet. I'm not dependent upon others for debate(since I'll have my own site soon enough), just know the repercussions of your policies, a study of history will tell you what your to reap. Banned or not, I can assure you, you'll see me again in the bookstores.
Thanks for your regards sweet pea.


Banned or not, I can assure you, you'll see me again in the bookstores

:lol: I'll be sure to look for that!


EDIT:

Nagasaki, (if that's your REAL name :lol: )

I find it amusing that someone of your intellectual calibre and would ever be so bold as to instruct ANYONE on how to be a proper communist. You sure love to talk about violent ass-fucking don't you? Perhaps you spent some time in a South Korean prison?

[Hampton]

Ahem:

http://www.student.smsu.edu/s/san232s/hardfunnypics/postcliffnotes.jpg

[truthaddict11]

I'm a American too, going into the Army. People may complain the politicians are bad for whatever reason, but have yet to hear anyone in the West complain our soldiers are bad people. It's one of the few chapters of public service open to men of my age that's still respectable-despite the stereotypes of the hippies pass around.



Thats because soldiers like cops are scabs of the capitalist class and have been used to kill workers. It is far from a respectable job.

[nagasaki]

Truth addict,

you're a fraud. You shouldn't be aloud to say the words "capitalism" or "communism", for you know not what they mean. C'mon, little anarchist. Give us some theory. Can you or can't you, Mr. Commie Club bullshit man? Dialectical Materialism. Easy concept. Tell us all what it means.

By the way, anarchists don't fare too well AFTER the revolution. You outlive your usefulness to the cause. When the revolution is successful, we will be forced to shoot you. Of course, we're going to cornhole you first. At least you have that to look forward to. :D

[Vinny Rafarino]

Why don't you give me your interpretation wankasaki. We will see if it even remotely coincides with Marxism/Leninism.


Come on though guy...knock our dicks off.

[nagasaki]

You know, I will...in a little while. Why? Because I think you know what it means. But first I want to see if one of these little "commie club" men can tell me. Give it...I dunno...thirty minutes.

[truthaddict11]

I would love to hear nagasakis interpretation of communism go head thrill me.

by the way supporting imperialism like you do does not make you a communist by a long shot

[Dhul Fiqar]

Didn't read a word of that but in case you were wondering I just noticed you delcaring your capitalist views and thumbing your nose at communism when browsing some threads yesterday and thought to myself: "Ooops - someone forgot to cage."

--- G.

[Invader Zim]

Well I wont pretend to have read that huge post of yours, but one thing i thought was funny as hell: -

"Del Furgo"
LOL

I love that.

[sc4r]

Really it seems very simple. You declared yourself pro-capitalism, ot at least pro liberalism. Nobody pretends that such people are allowed access except to OI. It doesn't actually matter how many other virtues you stand for.

I'd guess that you did not help your case overmuch by deciding that after being a member for 5 mins it was a good idea to start suggesting fairly major changes.

You can argue for Capitalism here in OI, but not elsewhere on the site. Thats straightforward. Itrs just the rules mate.

P.S. I just looked in on your 'hello' thhread' in the lounge!! You are surprised that you get restricted having insulted Felicia and her country within about 5 secs and then declared that you are strongly pro private eneterprise ???? I'm looking forward to reading your books, they promise to be surreal.

[Fabi]

Originally posted by [email protected] 21 2003, 06:30 AM
Truth addict,

you're a fraud. You shouldn't be aloud to say the words "capitalism" or "communism", for you know not what they mean. C'mon, little anarchist. Give us some theory. Can you or can't you, Mr. Commie Club bullshit man? Dialectical Materialism. Easy concept. Tell us all what it means.

By the way, anarchists don't fare too well AFTER the revolution. You outlive your usefulness to the cause. When the revolution is successful, we will be forced to shoot you. Of course, we're going to cornhole you first. At least you have that to look forward to. :D
The part about anarchists after the revolution is bs - if you had read engels - even if only very little - you would know that the end result 'communists' and anarchists were/are striving for to be essentially the same, differing merely in the tactics to accomplish such a situation...

this board is pretty ridiculous a lot of times :lol: :lol: :lol: <_< :unsure:

[synthesis]

Actually, I don&#39;t believe that Lenin was particularly friendly to Russia&#39;s anarchists after the October Revolution.

http://www.infoshop.org/faq/secH5.html

[Dhul Fiqar]

I just saw that Lounge thread now - I actually restricted him on the basis of a chit chat (or OI?) thread he was taking part in about a totally unrelated topic and I noticed him stating how he was not ready to attack Che yet or something like that - and how he had this big strategy to proves us wrong or something to that effect. All I remember was seeing a cappie and restricting him, and being 100% without doubt about his opposition to socialism.

As was stated - feel free to argue for that here - but other areas of the site are dedicated to leftists who do not enjoy getting into an arguments with anti-leftists in every thread they open.

--- G.

[Felicia]

Why the hell do you kiddies like to talk about me when I&#39;m out of the room?

cistiphonics
I had nothing to do with you being restricted. I didn&#39;t even know that you were restricted until you sent me that PM asking why you couldn&#39;t post anywhere. You were restricted probably because of your comment on the dems and repubs joining forces and beating us off when the time came. You were in obvious support of them, therefore you&#39;re one of them which resulted in your restriction (that&#39;s the most likely answer). *edit* I just read Dhul&#39;s responses...

rubble

Well, you may be an asshole like Cani said, but with this kind of thinking, you can&#39;t be all that bad. I too have tried to change Felicia&#39;s reactionary, nationalist mind. It has not worked. Check out my signature.
HAHAHA, label me what you want, it only shows your stupidity and low level of comprehension for those words.

Grow up.

sc4r

P.S. I just looked in on your &#39;hello&#39; thhread&#39; in the lounge&#33;&#33; You are surprised that you get restricted having insulted Felicia and her country within about 5 secs and then declared that you are strongly pro private eneterprise ???? I&#39;m looking forward to reading your books, they promise to be surreal.
In the "attention newbies" thread what got me against him, not him in the intro, he declaired his support for the republicans and democrats agaist the left in "america" the the CC thread.

[Saint-Just]

&#39;It proves to me that free thinkers in a Communist Society are predetermined to a life of oppression, as well as re-affirms my old quotation "If you live in a totalitarian state, assassination is considered death by natural causes." Ctisphonics&#39;

Capitalists like you are not free thinkers, you are oppressive thinkers. In addition, yes you are correct, people like you are predetermined to a life of oppression in a Communist society.

[Sasafrás]

Originally posted by [email protected] 20 2003, 11:17 PM
Ahem:

http://www.student.smsu.edu/s/san232s/hardfunnypics/postcliffnotes.jpg
That&#39;s rich&#33;&#33;

[Ctisphonics]

Ok, what the hell.
1. Am I a asshole? I feel a person shouldn&#39;t be allowed to label themselves a Assholes or anything along those lines, that&#39;s something for others to inform them about, which you did. Thanks, I&#39;ll take note and try to improve myself on that accord......unless you perfer Asshole-Ctisphonics over boring Scientific-Ctiphonics.

2. Why on earth does everyone keep labeling me a member of a political party or ideology&#33; I am not&#33; I&#39;m Friends with REAL Communists (I have a bunch of old books) in real life, real Conservatives in real life, real Liberals in real life. Muslims, Hindus, Christians, Taoist, ect. (Note: I am a Christian though, label me that all you want).

I can&#39;t remember where Marx wrote it, but he said the Communist were going to overthrow the government and use the bourgeoisie techniques for building the infrastructure of the new state when under the Dictatorship....right? (not an exact quote, obviously). I&#39;ve studied extensively ever since I was a little kid this unconsciously, and extrapolated general principals about human relations, state structures, the sciences in general, strategy, ect. I&#39;ve worked out a good bit of the mechanics of various systems and see how they are inter-related. Marxism is pretty much like Capitalism in form, as insane as that may sound to many of you- The dynamics isn&#39;t to far different from the American system (Ctisphonics Ducks from flying Tomatoes)....... just that for the few evils it tries to supress, it produces many, many more.

This should explain why I get pissed off everytime someone labels me a leftist or righters. On lefters boards, I&#39;m suddenly a Conservative. On Conservative boards, I&#39;m suddenly a leftest. My opinions do not by in thier roots come from some old French or English Philosopher, it&#39;s for the most part for my youth or early-Childhood.

As I said many times before, I studied Statecraft and Martial+Economic strategy. The thing is, I can&#39;t figure out the whole point to the Revolution thingy.....why a armed insurrection???????? Why so bloody, where&#39;s the Finesse? Why is a classless soceity even the goal? Why the emphasis on Economics in making class distictions? Class is so much more than that&#33; I have so many different class distictions within my poor, economically depressed self that I refuse to label myself as this or that. Many people I know don&#39;t either.

One lass thing......Oppressor of what? Who have I sought to oppresses. I don&#39;t even kill moths, I capture them then release them......much to the pain of embarrassment from my friends who would rather kill them than bother to release them.

A formula of seeming Contradictions:
Respects others religions and Ideologies, Counter-Culture Groups, life-styles, anti-nationalist, ect. + Following a single religion, Not holding to no single ideology or advocating on whole (perhaps ideas of one or another), patriot, respects the American political system for it&#39;s surpassing virtues over it&#39;s mistakes.

One more thing I want to stress more than anything esle in the world.......... I am NOT an Anarchist&#33; I know a few anarchist, they make no sense&#33; I tried to get it explained on these boards to me, it still made no sense&#33; I&#39;ll write about it with the Communism thingy, as well as several other systems (US Democratic-Republicanist System included&#33;) in a series of books in a decade or two, still collecting sorce material. It&#39;s not going to be against any of them, instead it will explain the various systems relations to one another- tthier mechanics.)

(I should note also that the link to the topic on Capitalism where I said it wasn&#39;t so much capitalism but Consumerism..does anybody disagree with it? I wasn&#39;t advocating either one over the other on that accord, it&#39;s more of an observation of mine. Until someone impresses me with something better than the advantages with Capitalism, I&#39;m leaning more towards them only for the benifits my people can receive.)

[canikickit]

Do you support capitalism?

[Urban Rubble]

I don&#39;t think this guy is all that bad. He seems like someone who has alot to learn, plain and simple.

I guess I shouldn&#39;t judge since I only read that post and the other one in OI.

[synthesis]

Marxism is pretty much like Capitalism in form, as insane as that may sound to many of you- The dynamics isn&#39;t to far different from the American system (Ctisphonics Ducks from flying Tomatoes)....... just that for the few evils it tries to supress, it produces many, many more.

I don&#39;t know about the rest of the board, but here&#39;s my problem with you. You make these speeches that have points that are massive in scope, but offer absolutely no logic, data, sources, or really even an argument to back yourself up. It&#39;s all rhetoric. You aren&#39;t a free thinker. You&#39;re just a preachy, whiny capitalist.

If you actually started debating, I wouldn&#39;t really care whether or not you were restricted. But all you ever do is throw out this kind of bland, unsupported rhetoric.

Good luck, Ctisphonics. You aren&#39;t an asshole.

[kylie]

Writing style is grounds for restricting now? I see many people in other parts of the board not fully explaining views or assumptions too. I myself sometimes just assume when posting that some things dont need to be given a full explanation, which isnt much different from what you say ctisphonics is doing.

[Felicia]

Hint: Just beat it out here in OI for a while. You may become unrestricted eventually :P :D

Although I have no opinion on the matter....

[Desert Fox]

Wow, you became a restricted member like me and many cappies. Get over yourself, I don&#39;t think anyone gives a sh*t about the fact you are restricted now ;)

[Ctisphonics]

I stopped caring a while back.

p.s., after some though, I now agree fully, I am a asshole. I remember my best-friend saying that I was sometimes, I suppose that part just came out more here due to my hostilities to Marxism. I blaim him for killing the Communist movements in the US, they were doing well till someguy started preaching bloddy revolution in Europe, then nobody trusted them. They probably be mainstream by now had Marx never played the Conspiracy game, though towns and Cities would still be around. Most of the Relgious based one&#39;s are still functioning fine since religion is one thing Americans don&#39;t like restricting or going agaisnt so much, but the independent one&#39;s for the most part dried up from lack of ethusiasm.

Would I live in Commune? Mabey for a couple of years as a student or as a laborer for a while, or if I had a family with little inpulse to get into bussiness or the likes. Marxs kill that possibilty though for the most part, the Communes are all ran by Anti-gov. radicals. I know someone who worked in one out near Chicago, she said it was horrible cause everyone was down each others throats constantly cause things weren&#39;t going the way it was &#39;suppost to&#39;.

[Vinny Rafarino]

What do hippy communes have to do with Marxist communism? Nothing. It&#39;s annoying that even today, non-communists always associate hippy communes with Marxism simply because they share the word "commune".

[synthesis]

Originally posted by [email protected] 24 2003, 07:51 AM
Writing style is grounds for restricting now? I see many people in other parts of the board not fully explaining views or assumptions too. I myself sometimes just assume when posting that some things dont need to be given a full explanation, which isnt much different from what you say ctisphonics is doing.
It has nothing to do with "writing style" or at least in the way you make it sound. To make claims like "Marxism is basically capitalism" and then supporting it without any argument whatsoever, but only an attempt to prove how outspoken and oppressed he is, is pretty shallow.