Agnapostate
4th April 2011, 01:12
Adherents of the fascist and white supremacist movements generally maintain a strong belief in genetic determinism of intelligence and mental acuity, with pseudo-scientific dogmas that certain non-white racial/ethnic groups are inherently intellectually inferior. This thread is to post information and research that challenges to perspective, and will hopefully be of use to people engaging in anti-fascist argument. Fascists/white supremacists labor under the delusion that they are a censored voice of intellectual reason that must be silenced because they speak the awful truth that everyone is afraid of, and since their claims are so routinely rejected that they are rarely engaged in debate by reasonable people, anti-fascists are oftentimes not used to how to deal with them. This is problematic because there are many white people, many of them young, disillusioned by the failures of government and capitalism that go looking for an alternative, and they may be lured into fascism and white supremacist reaction if strong and sound arguments against that ideology are not advanced by leftists and radicals.
I'm going to start with some material I wrote up today, and posted to Stormfront and the Vanguard News Network. So, considering that the genetic determinist perspective holds that intelligence is causatively related to so-called "race," let's have a look at this:
http://img99.imageshack.us/img99/7386/iqwealthofntionsss1.png
How does the admixed Italian population come to hold an average IQ score identical to that of Austrian, German, and Dutch populations, and above various other European populations? How does the Spanish population hold an average IQ score only one point above the Argentine population, when Argentina was settled by ethnic Castilians (already admixed) who proceeded to reproduce with the Indian population, producing a modern castizo population in Argentina, and on top of that, subject to waves of Italian immigrants in the late nineteenth and early twentieth centuries? How do similarly admixed Uruguay and Portugal come to beat Ireland and Greece? (I've not mentioned former Soviet-bloc countries because I know white supremacists will repeat nonsense about them being "Jew Bolshevik controlled.")
How does Indian Peru best "mestizo" Mexico and Colombia? Why is there such a disparity between Indian Peru and Indian Guatemala (11 points) despite the similar genetic structure of their populations, and the historic technological superiority of Mesoamerican Indians to Andean Indians? As recorded in Genetic admixture, self-reported ethnicity, self-estimated admixture, and skin pigmentation among Hispanics and Native Americans (http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18951390), "Among self-identified Hispanics, the average NA admixture is 32.7%...(see Table 1), slightly lower than the 34.1% found by Bonilla et al. (2004a) in their southern Colorado sample. Among self-identified NAs, the average NA admixture is 71.8%..., a value significantly larger than observed in Hispanics (P \ 0.001)." Native Americans have more Amerindian admixture than the descendants of Mexicans, and far more than Puerto Ricans and Cubans, so how does it come to pass that their IQ scores are approximately equivalent, measured as slightly higher or lower in different assessments?
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_OqiKkTj5eBg/S76p2gJ08iI/AAAAAAAAA9Y/f184W4djO-k/s1600/IQADD.bmp
http://img189.imageshack.us/img189/6117/scattera.png
Let's turn from Amerindian admixture to sub-Saharan African admixture and IQ scores. Rushton and Jensen's Race and IQ: A Theory-Based Review of the Research in Richard Nisbett’s Intelligence and How to Get It (http://www.mendeley.com/research/race-iq-theorybased-review-research-richard-nisbetts-intelligence-it/) report the following "mean ethnic group differences in intelligence test scores: Jewish (mean IQ = 113), East Asian (106), White (100), Hispanic (90), South Asian (87), African American (85), and sub-Saharan African (70)." Chen et al.'s Development of admixture mapping panels for African Americans from commercial high-density SNP arrays (http://www.biomedcentral.com/1471-2164/11/417) yielded, "estimated values of 19% European ancestry and 81% African ancestry." The average African-American IQ score of 85 is precisely intermediate between the sub-Saharan African score of 70 and the "white" score of 100. Yet, admixture proportions of African-Americans are estimated at 81% African and 19% European, or approximately four fifths African and one fifth European. Yet, tweaking slightly and assuming 20% European admixture for the sake of convenient arithmetic, a commensurate average IQ score would be approximately 76, 20% of the value differential of 30 points between the scores of 70 and 100.
That's what I've come up with so far. Feel free to contribute what you can.
I'm going to start with some material I wrote up today, and posted to Stormfront and the Vanguard News Network. So, considering that the genetic determinist perspective holds that intelligence is causatively related to so-called "race," let's have a look at this:
http://img99.imageshack.us/img99/7386/iqwealthofntionsss1.png
How does the admixed Italian population come to hold an average IQ score identical to that of Austrian, German, and Dutch populations, and above various other European populations? How does the Spanish population hold an average IQ score only one point above the Argentine population, when Argentina was settled by ethnic Castilians (already admixed) who proceeded to reproduce with the Indian population, producing a modern castizo population in Argentina, and on top of that, subject to waves of Italian immigrants in the late nineteenth and early twentieth centuries? How do similarly admixed Uruguay and Portugal come to beat Ireland and Greece? (I've not mentioned former Soviet-bloc countries because I know white supremacists will repeat nonsense about them being "Jew Bolshevik controlled.")
How does Indian Peru best "mestizo" Mexico and Colombia? Why is there such a disparity between Indian Peru and Indian Guatemala (11 points) despite the similar genetic structure of their populations, and the historic technological superiority of Mesoamerican Indians to Andean Indians? As recorded in Genetic admixture, self-reported ethnicity, self-estimated admixture, and skin pigmentation among Hispanics and Native Americans (http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18951390), "Among self-identified Hispanics, the average NA admixture is 32.7%...(see Table 1), slightly lower than the 34.1% found by Bonilla et al. (2004a) in their southern Colorado sample. Among self-identified NAs, the average NA admixture is 71.8%..., a value significantly larger than observed in Hispanics (P \ 0.001)." Native Americans have more Amerindian admixture than the descendants of Mexicans, and far more than Puerto Ricans and Cubans, so how does it come to pass that their IQ scores are approximately equivalent, measured as slightly higher or lower in different assessments?
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_OqiKkTj5eBg/S76p2gJ08iI/AAAAAAAAA9Y/f184W4djO-k/s1600/IQADD.bmp
http://img189.imageshack.us/img189/6117/scattera.png
Let's turn from Amerindian admixture to sub-Saharan African admixture and IQ scores. Rushton and Jensen's Race and IQ: A Theory-Based Review of the Research in Richard Nisbett’s Intelligence and How to Get It (http://www.mendeley.com/research/race-iq-theorybased-review-research-richard-nisbetts-intelligence-it/) report the following "mean ethnic group differences in intelligence test scores: Jewish (mean IQ = 113), East Asian (106), White (100), Hispanic (90), South Asian (87), African American (85), and sub-Saharan African (70)." Chen et al.'s Development of admixture mapping panels for African Americans from commercial high-density SNP arrays (http://www.biomedcentral.com/1471-2164/11/417) yielded, "estimated values of 19% European ancestry and 81% African ancestry." The average African-American IQ score of 85 is precisely intermediate between the sub-Saharan African score of 70 and the "white" score of 100. Yet, admixture proportions of African-Americans are estimated at 81% African and 19% European, or approximately four fifths African and one fifth European. Yet, tweaking slightly and assuming 20% European admixture for the sake of convenient arithmetic, a commensurate average IQ score would be approximately 76, 20% of the value differential of 30 points between the scores of 70 and 100.
That's what I've come up with so far. Feel free to contribute what you can.