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The Man
3rd April 2011, 18:43
I've been trolling around some Nazi/Fascist websites like Stormfront, ANP, and NSM. They all claim Communists want to 'Re-distribute wealth' and 'have a massive totalitarian leader'. They also make blasphemous claims like 'Obama is a Marxist'.

I just think these idiots have no clue what communism REALLY is. If they were just educated, and read a little bit, I think a lot of them would convert.

Your opinion?

Ocean Seal
3rd April 2011, 18:50
Okay look whenever someone says Obama is a Marxist you should immediately know that they're full of shit. I wonder what they would have to say to the Glenn Beck style capitalists who say that Obama is a fascist.

Also if you look at some more threads you'll hear about the Jewish-Bolshevik conspiracy. If you look at Glenn Beck you'll hear about the Caliphate-Communist conspiracy which is an enemy of the Jew.

Honestly you're right they don't know what communism is. Ancaps and Nazis are dumb and dumber:laugh:.

Ocean Seal
3rd April 2011, 18:52
Although it will take a lot more than just simple education when people don't want to listen. I once thought that we should try to take from the extremes but there are some who have effectively been lost. Really after a certain point its very difficult to do and trying to convert them is rather difficult. I say take the struggle to the moderates.

Proukunin
3rd April 2011, 18:56
They've been brought up through cold war era thinking that communism was going to take us away from our land and that radical people were going to reign blood on civilians and all people of the country. US propaganda is good, they worked hard on that shit. that's why the people that have grown up with the cold war era are fucking blatantly stupid as shit on what communism actually is. They just see DICTATOR and jam it in with islamist terrorism and fucking fascism! and also they want to keep the working class away from power.

ComradeOm
3rd April 2011, 19:07
They all claim Communists want to... 'have a massive totalitarian leader'You mean like a Fuhrer?


I just think these idiots have no clue what communism REALLY is. If they were just educated, and read a little bit, I think a lot of them would convertWhy on earth would be waste time trying to "convert" - and communism is not a religion. On that note: we don't "blaspheme" either - the dregs of the extreme-right? This is when we could, you know, spend time and effort educating those who might actually have an interest in or benefit from our programmes. If someone vehemently opposes, on principle, the very concept of a more equal society, to the point where they're willing to indulge in fascism, then they're not worth the effort

eric922
5th April 2011, 05:04
Wait, Nazis complaining about a totalitarian leader? Fucking Nazis? Those guys are the freaking definition of totalitarianism. What the hell? The mental gymnastics required to believe as they do is mind boggling.

Agent Ducky
10th April 2011, 21:49
I think honestly they're beyond hope. They're fascists after all.... "Communists want a totalitarian leader! Oh wait.... nvm that's us."

cakedisintegrate
26th May 2011, 15:15
Fascists are silly. Sometimes people's ideologies are taught to them as young children so you can't really be angry at them. It's impossible to convert their way of thinking - almost like a religion. The others are just kind of messed up in my opinion. I try to respect people's beliefs but it's hard sometimes... Yea and Obama is not a Marxist.

CitizenSmith
26th May 2011, 23:16
Only if this education comes from the barrel of a gun.

ColonelCossack
26th May 2011, 23:27
Only if this education comes from the barrel of a gun.
Only way to deal with the fascists.

redSHARP
3rd June 2011, 08:23
most former fascists i know usually phase out of the right wing due to internal strife and a good look in the mirror. I never met a hardcore nazi convert because he/she lost to many teeth. Anti-fascist violence usually brings them together or makes them even more fanatical. However, this is from my observations, results may vary.

I doubt education could convert some, but why not try. bloodshed should be avoided when you get the same results with non-violent means.

I think the next question is how to "rehabilitate" a nazi once he/she leaves the scene?

The Idler
5th June 2011, 17:17
The only way to achieve socialist consciousness is through free and frank discussion. No-one ever understood socialism by being beaten up.

Comrade_Oscar
5th June 2011, 17:25
If people knew what communism was then many people would become communists, that is why they don't teach it at public schools. And if someone is crazy enough to believe Obama is a Marxist then there really is little hope for them.