South Dakota abortion law, HB1217

[TheCultofAbeLincoln]

I haven't seen anything on the new restrictive law, but I could be wrong and apologize if so.

Apparently it makes women wait 72 hrs prior to having an abortion, and requires listening to pro-life groups prior. With only one planned parenthood clinic in the state, which flies in doctors from elsewhere once a week, it's a pretty hefty restriction apparently.



http://www.thedailybeast.com/blogs-and-stories/2011-03-23/south-dakotas-abortion-law-violates-separation-of-church-and-state/
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0311/51850.html
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/03/31/opinion/31thu3.html?ref=opinion&pagewanted=print

[hatzel]

With only one planned parenthood clinic in the state, which flies in doctors from elsewhere once a week

Sounds like Finnish synagogues :laugh:

Seriously though, what the hey? Don't you Americans have these things, or is it just South Dakota that's stuck in the Dark Ages? Because last time I checked, they're all over the place here...:confused:

[Bud Struggle]

Nobody's in the dark ages. There ARE very different opinions of abortion. As a realist and as a materialist I am for whatever the law states!

[hatzel]

Nobody's in the dark ages. There ARE very different opinions of abortion. As a realist and as a materialist I am for whatever the law states!

:laugh:

Is it illegal in South Dakota to plan your parenthood? :)

[Bud Struggle]

:laugh:

Is it illegal in South Dakota to plan your parenthood? :)

Well if it's the LAW. Certainly! In South Dakota. IS one person's opinion better than another's? What gives YOU the right to be so all high and mighty and think your opinion on ANYTHING is better than anyone elses.

We ALL have the idealist higher ground. And on the materialist front--what the law says--is the best way to to move forward.

[hatzel]

What gives YOU the right to be so all high and mighty and think your opinion on ANYTHING is better than anyone elses.

Let's be honest here...it blatantly is...:lol:

[Bud Struggle]

Let's be honest here...it blatantly is...:lol: Elitist! :D

[hatzel]

Elitist! :D

Nah...just a realist :thumbup:

[#FF0000]

Well if it's the LAW. Certainly! In South Dakota. IS one person's opinion better than another's? What gives YOU the right to be so all high and mighty and think your opinion on ANYTHING is better than anyone elses.

We ALL have the idealist higher ground. And on the materialist front--what the law says--is the best way to to move forward.

man bud i know you're trying but i don't quite thing you understand what this materialism thing means yet. keep trying though you are close to a breakthrough i just know it!!!!!!

anyway, yeah some states are still in the dark ages. interracial marriage in alabama was illegal until like 2002

[hatzel]

anyway, yeah some states are still in the dark ages. interracial marriage in alabama was illegal until like 2002

Please please please tell me this is hyperbole for comic effect :blink:

[#FF0000]

Please please please tell me this is hyperbole for comic effect :blink:

alabama literally had an anti-miscegenation law on the books until the 21st century.

[hatzel]

alabama literally had an anti-miscegenation law on the books until the 21st century.

That is absolutely positively too reactionary even for OI...but as that was the law, I'm sure materialist Bud would halfheartedly / ironically support it :lol:

How is South Dakota, actually? Culturally speaking? Is it too simplistic to think that, as it's South Dakota, it must be dutty south Bible Belt stuff? My American geography isn't particularly strong...:blushing: Still, let's put this shizzle in context!

[Bud Struggle]

man bud i know you're trying but i don't quite thing you understand what this materialism thing means yet. keep trying though you are close to a breakthrough i just know it!!!!!! Maybe you don't.


anyway, yeah some states are still in the dark ages. interracial marriage in alabama was illegal until like 2002 Bad analogy. Lynching were legal in some states until recently. We decided it was a way to unjustly kill the disinfranchised--maybe we are going the same way with these anti abortion laws to stop the unjust killing of the unborn.

The Black person was not considered a person at one time in the United States, Now the unborn person is not considered a person in the United States. Not much difference in the fight for all people to be equal and free.

[#FF0000]

Maybe you don't.

oh you.


Bad analogy. Lynching were legal in some states until recently. We decided it was a way to unjustly kill the disinfranchised--maybe we are going the same way with these anti abortion laws to stop the unjust killing of the unborn.

The Black person was not considered a person at one time in the United States, Now the unborn person is not considered a person in the United States. Not much difference in the fight for all people to be equal and free.

fetuses aren't human beings though so there goes that.

[Bud Struggle]

fetuses aren't human beings though so there goes that.

And wouldn't a White slave holder say EXACTLY the same thing about Blacks in 1850? You can go on StormFront and here them say something similar today.

See. It's actually it's the ProLIFE people that hold the Progressive view. All human life is sacred.

[hatzel]

And wouldn't a White slave holder say EXACTLY the same thing about Blacks in 1850? You can goon StormFront andhere them say something similar today.

See. It's actually it's the ProLIFE people that hold the Progressive view. All human life is sacred.

The logic is...there, it does exist, but...still somehow not quite right...:lol:

[#FF0000]

And wouldn't a White slave holder say EXACTLY the same thing about Blacks in 1850? You can go on StormFront and here them say something similar today.

Yeah, and the difference is that they would be wrong. Black people are the same as white people except they have a different skin color.

Saying a fetus is a human being is like saying an egg yolk is a chicken.


See. It's actually it's the ProLIFE people that hold the Progressive view. All human life is sacred.I don't think forcing a woman to give birth is especially progressive.

and again, fetuses are not human beings.

[hatzel]

Black people are the same as white people except they have a different skin color.

Saying a fetus is a human being is like saying an egg yolk is a chicken.

On the other hand, yolks and chicks are, in fact, both yellow :)

[#FF0000]

On the other hand, yolks and chicks are, in fact, both yellow :)

WHAT THAT MEANS

ive been such a fool all these years

such a fool

my god

[hatzel]

WHAT THAT MEANS

ive been such a fool all these years

such a fool

my god

What can I say...materialism bites back, as both yolks and chicks are made of yellow material, thus they are the same.

...that's how it works, right? :confused:

[#FF0000]

What can I say...materialism bites back, as both yolks and chicks are made of yellow material, thus they are the same.

...that's how it works, right? :confused:

i think so but i think it's also something to do with scientology because dialectics

[hatzel]

i think so but i think it's also something to do with scientology because dialectics

What?! I thought dialectics was just about regional accents and shit :confused:

[Dimentio]

And wouldn't a White slave holder say EXACTLY the same thing about Blacks in 1850? You can go on StormFront and here them say something similar today.

See. It's actually it's the ProLIFE people that hold the Progressive view. All human life is sacred.

What is your opinion on vivisection then?

[Bud Struggle]

What is your opinion on vivisection then?

Of what? People or animals? I remember that being something of an issue back in England in the day--it was one of the themes in CS Lewis's That Hidious Strength.

I guess I don't mind it for animals--not so much on people.