Doctor Zhivago

[The Man]

Is it any good at all? What is it about? Does it make the Bolsheviks look like horrible people?

[Le Libérer]

I loved it. I wouldnt say it put the Bolsheviks in a bad light at all. If anything, it is probably somewhat realistic.

[Rakhmetov]

The novelist Pasternak was an anti-communist! Still you have to love this scene:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wRXKHTTzayU

[Rooster]

The ending of the film is probably one of the most depressing things I've ever witnessed. Anyway, I thought it was a great film (anything with Alec Guinness is great).

[Sam_b]

The novelist Pasternak was an anti-communist!

I don't judge my literature by the political opinions of the author.

[Le Libérer]

I don't judge my literature by the political opinions of the author.

Exactly. I have a published dark comedy about the second coming of christ who puts the faithful as the heroes. And I am not a believer.

[Born in the USSR]

The anthem of the Russian intelligentsia's cowardice.

[Le Libérer]

I re-watched it last night and thought of you, Sammy. :)

[Sam_b]

Haha! Truth be told I really don't like the film ;)

[RED DAVE]

The best scene isn't on youtube. It takes place during the fighting on the Eastern Front. A bunch of fresh troops are being led to the front by their officers. They pass a huge group of deserters and the two groups mix. You see an officer cursing at the deserters and exhorting his troops forward to the fighting. Meanwhile, the two groups of men, the fresh troops and the deserters, are mixing, and the deserters are convincing the fresh troops to desert. As the two groups pass through each other, more and more troops desert, till the officers are finally alone.

We see an officer standing on a tree stump cursing at the deserters and ordering his men forward. Then we realize we are looking over the shoulder of a soldier. Through his eyes, we see him lift his rifle, take aim and shoot the officer. Now that's what I'm talking about.

Interestingly, Pasternak was something of a friend of Stalin and a Jew.

RED DAVE

[Robespierre Richard]

The anthem of the Russian intelligentsia's cowardice.

Is art-group voina the peak of their courage?

[A.J.]

Does it make the Bolsheviks look like horrible people?

There's sort of a "good bolshevik/bad bolshevik" dichotomy throughout the film. So overall quite ambivalent.

Here's something to consider, however. The Antipov/Strelnikov(a bad Bolshevik) character originally despised the Bolsheviks and only joined them in 1917(sort of like Trotsky) when he seen which way the wind was blowing.


The novelist Pasternak was an anti-communist! Still you have to love this scene:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wRXKHTTzayU

The locomotive of history :cool:

[The Man]

The locomotive of history :cool:

Why is that the one Lenin was on?