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Sasha
28th March 2011, 10:42
note; i post this letter to raise discussion not because i agree 100% with its conclusions (which i don't)


An Open Letter to the Left on Libya (http://www.juancole.com/2011/03/an-open-letter-to-the-left-on-libya.html)

Posted on 03/27/2011 by Juan
As I expected, now that Qaddafi’s advantage in armor and heavy weapons is being neutralized by the UN allies’ air campaign, the liberation movement is regaining lost territory (http://news.smh.com.au/breaking-news-world/libyan-rebels-advance-as-kadhafi-forces-flee-strikes-20110327-1cbqg.html). Liberators took back Ajdabiya and Brega (Marsa al-Burayqa), key oil towns, on Saturday into Sunday morning, and seemed set to head further West. This rapid advance is almost certainly made possible in part by the hatred of Qaddafi among the majority of the people of these cities. The Buraiqa Basin contains much of Libya’s oil wealth, and the Transitional Government in Benghazi will soon again control 80 percent of this resource, an advantage in their struggle with Qaddafi.
I am unabashedly cheering the liberation movement on, and glad that the UNSC-authorized intervention has saved them from being crushed. I can still remember when I was a teenager how disappointed I was that Soviet tanks were allowed to put down the Prague Spring and extirpate socialism with a human face. Our multilateral world has more spaces in it for successful change and defiance of totalitarianism than did the old bipolar world of the Cold War, where the US and the USSR often deferred to each other’s sphere of influence.
The United Nations-authorized intervention in Libya has pitched ethical issues of the highest importance, and has split progressives in unfortunate ways. I hope we can have a calm and civilized discussion of the rights and wrongs here.
On the surface, the situation in Libya a week and a half ago posed a contradiction between two key principles of Left politics: supporting the ordinary people and opposing foreign domination of them. Libya’s workers and townspeople had risen up to overthrow the dictator in city after city– Tobruk, Dirna, al-Bayda, Benghazi, Ajdabiya, Misrata, Zawiya, Zuara, Zintan. Even in the capital of Tripoli, working-class neighborhoods such as Suq al-Jumah and Tajoura had chased out the secret police. In the two weeks after February 17, there was little or no sign of the protesters being armed or engaging in violence.
The libel put out by the dictator, that the 570,000 people of Misrata or the 700,000 people of Benghazi were supporters of “al-Qaeda,” was without foundation. That a handful of young Libyan men from Dirna and the surrounding area had fought in Iraq is simply irrelevant. The Sunni Arab resistance in Iraq was for the most part not accurately called ‘al-Qaeda,’ which is a propaganda term in this case. All of the countries experiencing liberation movements had sympathizers with the Sunni Iraqi resistance; in fact opinion polling shows such sympathy almost universal throughout the Sunni Arab world. All of them had at least some fundamentalist movements. That was no reason to wish the Tunisians, Egyptians, Syrians and others ill. The question is what kind of leadership was emerging in places like Benghazi. The answer is that it was simply the notables of the city. If there were an uprising against Silvio Berlusconi in Milan, it would likely unite businessmen and factory workers, Catholics and secularists. It would just be the people of Milan. A few old time members of the Red Brigades might even come out, and perhaps some organized crime figures. But to defame all Milan with them would be mere propaganda.
Then Muammar Qaddafi’s sons rallied his armored brigades and air force to bomb the civilian crowds and shoot tank shells into them. Members of the Transitional Government Council in Benghazi estimate that 8000 were killed as Qaddafi’s forces attacked and subdued Zawiya, Zuara, Ra’s Lanuf, Brega, Ajdabiya, and the working class districts of Tripoli itself, using live ammunition fired into defenseless rallies. If 8000 was an exaggeration, simply “thousands” was not, as attested by Left media such as Amy Goodman’s Democracy Now! As Qaddafi’s tank brigades reached the southern districts of Benghazi, the prospect loomed of a massacre of committed rebels on a large scale.
The United Nations Security Council authorization for UN member states to intervene to forestall this massacre thus pitched the question. If the Left opposed intervention, it de facto acquiesced in Qaddafi’s destruction of a movement embodying the aspirations of most of Libya’s workers and poor, along with large numbers of white collar middle class people. Qaddafi would have reestablished himself, with the liberation movement squashed like a bug and the country put back under secret police rule. The implications of a resurgent, angry and wounded Mad Dog, his coffers filled with oil billions, for the democracy movements on either side of Libya, in Egypt and Tunisia, could well have been pernicious.
The arguments against international intervention are not trivial, but they all did have the implication that it was all right with the world community if Qaddafi deployed tanks against innocent civilian crowds just exercising their right to peaceful assembly and to petition their government. (It simply is not true that very many of the protesters took up arms early on, though some were later forced into it by Qaddafi’s aggressive military campaign against them. There still are no trained troops to speak of on the rebel side).
Some have charged that the Libya action has a Neoconservative political odor. But the Neoconservatives hate the United Nations and wanted to destroy it. They went to war on Iraq despite the lack of UNSC authorization, in a way that clearly contravened the UN Charter. Their spokesman and briefly the ambassador to the UN, John Bolton, actually at one point denied that the United Nations even existed. The Neoconservatives loved deploying American muscle unilaterally, and rubbing it in everyone’s face. Those who would not go along were subjected to petty harassment. France, then deputy secretary of defense Paul Wolfowitz pledged, would be “punished” for declining to fall on Iraq at Washington’s whim. The Libya action, in contrast, observes all the norms of international law and multilateral consultation that the Neoconservatives despise. There is no pettiness. Germany is not ‘punished’ for not going along. Moreover, the Neoconservatives wanted to exercise primarily Anglo-American military might in the service of harming the public sector and enforced ‘shock therapy’ privatization so as to open the conquered country to Western corporate penetration. All this social engineering required boots on the ground, a land invasion and occupation. Mere limited aerial bombardment cannot effect the sort of extreme-capitalist revolution they seek. Libya 2011 is not like Iraq 2003 in any way (http://www.juancole.com/2011/03/top-ten-ways-that-libya-2011-is-not-iraq-2003.html).
Allowing the Neoconservatives to brand humanitarian intervention as always their sort of project does a grave disservice to international law and institutions, and gives them credit that they do not deserve, for things in which they do not actually believe.
The intervention in Libya was done in a legal way. It was provoked by a vote of the Arab League, including the newly liberated Egyptian and Tunisian governments. It was urged by a United Nations Security Council resolution, the gold standard for military intervention. (Contrary to what some alleged, the abstentions of Russia and China do not deprive the resolution of legitimacy or the force of law; only a veto could have done that. You can be arrested today on a law passed in the US Congress on which some members abstained from voting.)
Among reasons given by critics for rejecting the intervention are:
1. Absolute pacifism (the use of force is always wrong)
2. Absolute anti-imperialism (all interventions in world affairs by outsiders are wrong).
3. Anti-military pragmatism: a belief that no social problems can ever usefully be resolved by use of military force.
Absolute pacifists are rare, and I will just acknowledge them and move on. I personally favor an option for peace in world policy-making, where it should be the default initial position. But the peace option is trumped in my mind by the opportunity to stop a major war crime.
Leftists are not always isolationists. In the US, progressive people actually went to fight in the Spanish Civil War, forming the Lincoln Brigade. That was a foreign intervention. Leftists were happy about Churchill’s and then Roosevelt’s intervention against the Axis. To make ‘anti-imperialism’ trump all other values in a mindless way leads to frankly absurd positions. I can’t tell you how annoyed I am by the fringe left adulation for Iranian president Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, on the grounds that he is ‘anti-imperialist,’ and with an assumption that he is somehow on the Left. As the pillar of a repressive Theocratic order that puts down workers, he is a man of the far Right, and that he doesn’t like the US and Western Europe doesn’t ennoble him.
The proposition that social problems can never be resolved by military force alone may be true. But there are some problems that can’t be solved unless there is a military intervention first, since its absence would allow the destruction of the progressive forces. Those arguing that “Libyans” should settle the issue themselves are willfully ignoring the overwhelming repressive advantage given Qaddafi by his jets, helicopter gunships, and tanks; the ‘Libyans’ were being crushed inexorably. Such crushing can be effective for decades thereafter.
Assuming that NATO’s UN-authorized mission in Libya really is limited ( it is hoping for 90 days (http://articles.timesofindia.indiatimes.com/2011-03-26/middle-east/29192049_1_senior-nato-officials-military-action-forces)), and that a foreign military occupation is avoided, the intervention is probably a good thing on the whole, however distasteful it is to have Nicolas Sarkozy grandstanding. Of course he is not to be trusted by progressives, but he is to his dismay increasingly boxed in by international institutions, which limits the damage he could do as the bombing campaign comes to an end (Qaddafi only had 2000 tanks, many of them broken down, and it won’t be long before he has so few, and and the rebels have captured enough to level the playing field, that little further can be accomplished from the air).
Many are crying hypocrisy, citing other places an intervention could be staged or worrying that Libya sets a precedent. I don’t find those arguments persuasive. Military intervention is always selective, depending on a constellation of political will, military ability, international legitimacy and practical constraints. The humanitarian situation in Libya was fairly unique. You had a set of tank brigades willing to attack dissidents, and responsible for thousands of casualties and with the prospect of more thousands to come, where aerial intervention by the world community could make a quick and effective difference.
This situation did not obtain in the Sudan’s Darfur, where the terrain and the conflict were such that aerial intervention alone would have have been useless and only boots on the ground could have had a hope of being effective. But a whole US occupation of Iraq could not prevent Sunni-Shiite urban faction-fighting that killed tens of thousands, so even boots on the ground in Darfur’s vast expanse might have failed.
The other Arab Spring demonstrations are not comparable to Libya, because in none of them has the scale loss of life been replicated, nor has the role of armored brigades been as central, nor have the dissidents asked for intervention, nor has the Arab League. For the UN, out of the blue, to order the bombing of Deraa in Syria at the moment would accomplish nothing and would probably outrage all concerned. Bombing the tank brigades heading for Benghazi made all the difference.
That is, in Libya intervention was demanded by the people being massacred as well as by the regional powers, was authorized by the UNSC, and could practically attain its humanitarian aim of forestalling a massacre through aerial bombardment of murderous armored brigades. And, the intervention could be a limited one and still accomplish its goal.
I also don’t understand the worry about the setting of precedents. The UN Security Council is not a court, and does not function by precedent. It is a political body, and works by political will. Its members are not constrained to do elsewhere what they are doing in Libya unless they so please, and the veto of the five permanent members ensures that a resolution like 1973 will be rare. But if a precedent is indeed being set that if you rule a country and send tank brigades to murder large numbers of civilian dissidents, you will see your armor bombed to smithereens, I can’t see what is wrong with that.
Another argument is that the no-fly zone (and the no-drive zone) aimed at overthrowing Qaddafi not to protect his people from him but to open the way for US, British and French dominance of Libya’s oil wealth. This argument is bizarre. The US declined to do oil business with Libya in the late 1980s and throughout the 1990s, when it could have, because it had placed the country under boycott. It didn’t want access to that oil market, which was repeatedly proffered to Washington by Qaddafi then. After Qaddafi came back in from the cold in the late 1990s (for the European Union) and after 2003 (for the US), sanctions were lifted and Western oil companies flocked into the country. US companies were well represented (http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/02/22/us-libya-usa-oilcompanies-idUSTRE71L5VI20110222), along with BP and the Italian firm ENI. BP signed an expensive exploration contract with Qaddafi and cannot possibly have wanted its validity put into doubt by a revolution. There is no advantage to the oil sector of removing Qaddafi. Indeed, a new government may be more difficult to deal with and may not honor Qaddafi’s commitments. There is no prospect of Western companies being allowed to own Libyan petroleum fields, which were nationalized long ago. Finally, it is not always in the interests of Big Oil to have more petroleum on the market, since that reduces the price and, potentially, company profits. A war on Libya to get more and better contracts so as to lower the world price of petroleum makes no sense in a world where the bids were already being freely let, and where high prices were producing record profits. I haven’t seen the war-for-oil argument made for Libya in a manner that makes any sense at all.
I would like to urge the Left to learn to chew gum and walk at the same time. It is possible to reason our way through, on a case-by-case basis, to an ethical progressive position that supports the ordinary folk in their travails in places like Libya. If we just don’t care if the people of Benghazi are subjected to murder and repression on a vast scale, we aren’t people of the Left. We should avoid making ‘foreign intervention’ an absolute taboo the way the Right makes abortion an absolute taboo if doing so makes us heartless (inflexible a priori positions often lead to heartlessness). It is now easy to forget that Winston Churchill held absolutely odious positions from a Left point of view and was an insufferable colonialist who opposed letting India go in 1947. His writings are full of racial stereotypes that are deeply offensive when read today. Some of his interventions were nevertheless noble and were almost universally supported by the Left of his day. The UN allies now rolling back Qaddafi are doing a good thing, whatever you think of some of their individual leaders.


http://www.juancole.com/2011/03/an-open-letter-to-the-left-on-libya.html

Sperm-Doll Setsuna
29th March 2011, 22:29
note; i post this letter to raise discussion not because i agree 100% with its conclusions (which i don't)



http://www.juancole.com/2011/03/an-open-letter-to-the-left-on-libya.html


Seems like an annoying fellow.



If the Left opposed intervention, it de facto acquiesced in Qaddafi’s destruction of a movement embodying the aspirations of most of Libya’s workers and poor, along with large numbers of white collar middle class people.First and foremost, some intervention could be defensible.

UN Security Council, not; NATO and allies, not.

And since when is the "white collar middle-class" any real concept whatsoever? Nonsense. It serves to reveal the author as a mainstream pseudo-leftist.

And since when is the movement embodying anything clear anyway? Interests of workers and poor? I'd like to see some proof of that, and so far I have not seen such. I've seen plenty of royalists and religious present, waving vile monarchist flags though. No doubt the workers and poor would like to see change - and insofar as that is, they might be persuaded to participate - but will there be any change that improves their lives? Doubtful.


The arguments against international intervention are not trivial, but they all did have the implication that it was all right with the world community if Qaddafi deployed tanks against innocent civilian crowds just exercising their right to peaceful assembly and to petition their government.The World Community is the capitalist system, and the capitalist system has no qualms about supporting brutality, of supporting political repression, so this nonsense that somehow the intervention is out of a humanitarian concern is absurd.


Some have charged that the Libya action has a Neoconservative political odour. But the Neoconservatives hate the United Nations and wanted to destroy it.Though they hate, the United Nations is their friend. It is especially a friend of the neo-liberals and their ilk, and a friend of the current world order.


You had a set of tank brigades willing to attack dissidents, and responsible for thousands of casualties and with the prospect of more thousands to come, where aerial intervention by the world community could make a quick and effective difference.And now, potential for thousands of death by bombings! Why that's a very nice situation...

Intervention is not wrong just because. If revolutionary groups want to participate and support and strengthen the participation of workers in the movement and help them against Qadaffi, or a progressive force would provide material support and whatnot, that would be a good thing.

The UN and NATO and related forces are however not this force, and their participation will mean that the segments within the anti-government side in the civil war that are most closely associated with them, will gain strength, I think.

I read earlier that there was a meeting in London today to discuss the situation and many government figures from the world were present, and it was agreed that they would set up some group to study how to best support a "democratic future" for Libya, and I think we all know what that means in the relevant context.

This article is quite bad, even for what it's trying to do.


The UN allies now rolling back Qaddafi are doing a good thing, whatever you think of some of their individual leaders. I don't appreciate this black-white clarity here taken. The anti-government forces are obviously very varied and its hard to know what they really are for, and who will come out on top in the end. The NATO intervention increases the risk that factions friendly to those criminals will come out on top.

Since when are we friends of the UN anyhow?

DaringMehring
30th March 2011, 00:00
J. Cole's letter is typical of a social-democratic mindset that cannot see through the lies of "progressive liberalism." He has virtually no attempt at materialist analysis.

Totally lacking, is addressing the question, of what class is perpetrating the violence. Yes, leftists do not oppose all interventions, but the question is what class is intervening via what institutions. Comparing the Lincoln brigades (the working class intervening via the communist party) to the US military (the US big bourgeoisie via the US government) is nonsense. It's a non-analogy.

I mean, come on, did Cole just compare a coal miner from Pennsylvania signing up to fight and die in Spain to a US airman dropping payloads on whatever country he was just ordered to?

It is ridiculous, that Cole trusts the US bourgeoisie & their puppet government and military to handle Libya in the interests of the Libyan working class. All of the starry-eyed optimism about the international institutions "hemming them in" is equally absurd. Who else but that same ruling class dominates those international institutions?

Yes, I would favor intervention in Libya on the side of the rebels --- if who were intervening were a socialist force. But that is not at all the same as the US govt and its lackey allies.

Jose Gracchus
30th March 2011, 01:22
Fuck Cole. He has been cheerleading for the intervention repeatedly, giving totally bullshit posts about how "this isn't Iraq". He's the exemplary case of the "cruise missile left".

Rusty Shackleford
30th March 2011, 07:08
comparing international brigades to the intervention in Libya is nonsense.

the international brigades were fighting fascism which goes hand in hand with imperialism. imperialist powers intervened on the side of franco a la 50,000 italian troops and the German Kondor Legion.

Raubleaux
30th March 2011, 11:04
Cole is terrible on this Libya situation. I rather liked some of his posts on the Egyptian protests. He had a debate with Vijay Prashad (I think that's his name) on Democracy Now today that was kind of interesting.

Wanted Man
30th March 2011, 19:55
Wow, he instantly loses credibility with his dumb WWII comparisons. This guy is a historian? What a shame. I mean:


Leftists are not always isolationists. In the US, progressive people actually went to fight in the Spanish Civil War, forming the Lincoln Brigade. That was a foreign intervention. Leftists were happy about Churchill’s and then Roosevelt’s intervention against the Axis.

Hmm yeah, let's see:

1) American workers who voluntarily and against the wishes of their (imperialist) government went to fight fascism in Spain.
2) Churchill and Roosevelt, who "intervened" against the Axis after the Axis powers had declared war on them or their allies.
3) Imperialist powers bombing the crap out of Libya to put more friendly rulers on the throne.

Yeah, no difference there. This is where all the pro-imp leftists (whether anarchist or liberal or anything else) fail, because they think analysis of imperialism is not necessary because imperialism does not exist or is not important. This can lead them to believe that these three situations really are analogous and they turn into neocon-style hawks as soon as a WWII comparison is made.

The whole historical part of the article is only really convincing to people who have, perhaps, been living under a rock between 1989 and 2003 and therefore think that the unilateral Iraq War is the only form of imperialist intervention that deserves condemnation. Or maybe they really thought that the wars on Yugoslavia and Afghanistan were just as well.

On current events, the man isn't doing much better. I think it was today that we learned that the march of the rebels is still quite fragile and that they lost control of a city, just like Khadafi's march towards Benghazi before the intervention was fragile. The idea that the intervention will be limited to 90 days is also very much in doubt. Of course Cole couldn't have known all that a few days ago, but that he assumes the opposite is due to pure wishful thinking and a boundless confidence in the ability of the coalition to keep the intervention limited. How wrong those attitudes are is something that needs little argument.

Threetune
31st March 2011, 18:34
Among reasons given by critics for rejecting the intervention are:
"1. Absolute pacifism (the use of force is always wrong)
2. Absolute anti-imperialism (all interventions in world affairs by outsiders are wrong).
3. Anti-military pragmatism: a belief that no social problems can ever usefully be resolved by use of military force."


This isn’t absolute anti-imperialist (communist thinking) being described here. He makes anti-imperialism sound like a moral protest. Real achievable (1917) non-idealist communist anti-imperialism is about the revolutionary defeat of imperialism, not a finger wagging complaint.

And what the hell are “world affairs” that aren’t imperialism v bourgeois nationalism and or workers rebellions? The whole world is a seething cauldron of imperialist economic, political crisis with accompanying war civil war chaos smouldering and breaking out everywhere.

Imperialist “interventions” are not something that imperialism does on rare occasions. “Interventions” are what imperialism is, universally and constantly. There’s no wonder that so many have got themselves into a pickle over Libya with this, 'seeing the world’s revolutionary development as a succession of discrete events', rather than understanding it as only part of the whole picture.

Luís Henrique
2nd April 2011, 03:39
Real achievable (1917) non-idealist communist anti-imperialism is about the revolutionary defeat of imperialism, not a finger wagging complaint.

In which case, again, it is a fight that cannot be won, or even actually fought, in Libya.

Or are you telling us that Lenin's line was to actually hope that the Kaiser smashed the Spartakists?

Luís Henrique

Red Commissar
2nd April 2011, 03:56
Who is Juan Cole? This is the first I've heard of him.

~Spectre
2nd April 2011, 04:25
Fuck Cole. He has been cheerleading for the intervention repeatedly, giving totally bullshit posts about how "this isn't Iraq". He's the exemplary case of the "cruise missile left".

Cole is nothing less than a blind partisan for the democrats, full stop. He instantly loss any hint of objectivity he had when Obama was elected.

Oddly enough, sometimes it still pops out, like on the issues of Palestine and drone bombing, but then he'll instantly doublethink it away, in light of The Magnificence of Obama ™

Cole has slowly been destroying his own credibility over the last year, including some embarassing blunders and lies he told about Iraq in order to happyspin Obama's policies.

Finally, other progressives are turning on him, with Glenn Greenwald putting his foot down on Cole's hypocrisy:

http://www.salon.com/news/opinion/glenn_greenwald/2011/03/30/cole/index.html

Contrast how Cole criticizes the Neocon chickenhawks, but is now one himself.

~Spectre
2nd April 2011, 04:26
Also, for a taste of just how mind numbingly stupid Cole can be, here's his brilliant theory about how Neocon orientalism was started by Marx:


But US hawks and Neoconservatives are not celebrating this epochal bill in Pakistan. I ask myself why.
I think it is because Neoconservatism and the arguments of all those who favor democratization at the barrel of a gun are fundamentally Orientalist in character (http://www.newslinemagazine.com/2009/12/hitchens-pakistan-delusions/). In some ways they go back to Karl Marx, who in his journalism on India argued that the capitalist British Empire was necessary to shake Indian villages out of their millennia-long sluggishness, from which they could never escape on their own.

Threetune
2nd April 2011, 13:23
In which case, again, it is a fight that cannot be won, or even actually fought, in Libya.

Or are you telling us that Lenin's line was to actually hope that the Kaiser smashed the Spartakists?
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Luís Henrique

In what way are the Libyan "rebels" comparable to the communist of Germany?

Luís Henrique
2nd April 2011, 16:20
In what way are the Libyan "rebels" comparable to the communist of Germany?

They aren't.

Why should this matter?

"Leninism" isn't about jeering for a foreing nation-State to defeat your own nation-State; it is about defeating your own nation-State by yourselves.

So the nature of the Libyan rebels - or of the Spartakist league - doesn't matter. Lenin didn't jeer about the Reich smashing the Czarist empire - he built a movement to smash the Czarist empire. He didn't whine about those damn Spartakists puting the Reich's armies into difficulty. Why would he do so if even if the Spartakists were not communists? Suppose they were petty-bourgeois liberals or even pro-British compradors. Why would Russian revolutionaries start campaigning against them, instead of working for revolution in Russia?

Luís Henrique