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Dimmu
28th March 2011, 08:03
Scotland Yard officers are working urgently to identify the extremists who clashed with police and attacked landmarks on Saturday before they can strike again.
Commander Bob Broadhurst, the head of public order for the Metropolitan Police, warned that the anarchists would be "deliberately targeting" the wedding of Prince William and Kate Middleton on April 29.
"The concern for me is that they do what they did yesterday in central London and divert resources away from my security plan and take our eye off the ball security wise," he said.
Read the full article if you want to read how the state propaganda works.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/royal-wedding/8410157/Anarchists-plan-to-target-royal-wedding.html
Savage
28th March 2011, 08:16
As unlikely as this is, I would love for it to happen.
Rusty Shackleford
28th March 2011, 08:18
this is actually something to raise alarm about.
the state is now openly targeting political opposition in its own country.
Le Socialiste
28th March 2011, 08:28
God forbid that the royal wedding be disrupted by those nefarious anarchists! Good grief...
I say, all power to them.
Commander Broadhurst insisted that police had been unable to find sufficient evidence to arrest people before the marches. He said: “We are not a police state, we are not the thought police, we cannot read people’s minds.”
Do I detect a hint wishfulness? I think I do.
Sir Comradical
28th March 2011, 09:19
I am fully in support of this motion.
Vladimir Innit Lenin
28th March 2011, 16:15
Peaceful disruption of the royal wedding would be magnificent. A sit in, occupation or blockade, with a big statement of principles and demands of the government for all to see would be fantastic for the entire movement, morale speaking.:D
PhoenixAsh
28th March 2011, 16:22
...O god people...can't we leave the poor priviliged rich people who never had to work a day in their lives to enjoy their million dollar wedding largely payed for by tax payer money in peace and quiet without constantly drawing attention to the growing inequality and increasing amount of poor people?? How DARE you!!!!
:rolleyes::rolleyes:
/sarcasm
The Garbage Disposal Unit
28th March 2011, 16:27
Peaceful disruption of the royal wedding would be magnificent. A sit in, occupation or blockade, with a big statement of principles and demands of the government for all to see would be fantastic for the entire movement, morale speaking.:D
When you say "peaceful disruption" you include injuring police, destroying property, and, ideally, beheading the royal couple, right?
Tim Finnegan
28th March 2011, 16:28
Anarchists'll never get this done... Where's the 'RA when you need 'em? :(
Jose Gracchus
28th March 2011, 16:38
Psh. What's wrong with a little black bloc action, ye Red o' lil' faith.
Iraultzaile Ezkerreko
28th March 2011, 16:40
When you say "peaceful disruption" you include injuring police, destroying property, and, ideally, beheading the royal couple, right?
I lol'd.
Tim Finnegan
28th March 2011, 17:03
Psh. What's wrong with a little black bloc action, ye Red o' lil' faith.
You can stick fifty lines of coppers between the royals and the black blocers. You can't really try the same trick against a bomb. ;)
fionntan
28th March 2011, 17:09
Anarchists'll never get this done... Where's the 'RA when you need 'em? :(
I would say alot of irish will be arrested in the comming weeks in england..
Tim Finnegan
28th March 2011, 17:11
I would say alot of irish will be arrested in the comming weeks in england..
That's probably true, yeah. Still a lot of unresolved anti-Irish racism in this country, and a public celebration of Our Mighty Teutonic Overlords isn't exactly going to advance things. :(
Gorilla
28th March 2011, 17:15
Peaceful disruption of the royal wedding would be magnificent. A sit in, occupation or blockade, with a big statement of principles and demands of the government for all to see would be fantastic for the entire movement, morale speaking.:D
SMFH
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http://www.digischool.nl/kleioscoop/guillotine.jpg
Three cheers for the bride and groom!
Dimmu
28th March 2011, 17:24
Do I detect a hint wishfulness? I think I do.
it already starts..
The home secretary has "utterly condemned" the behaviour of thugs who attacked police officers and smashed property in London on Saturday.
Theresa May told the Commons she expected the number of people charged, currently 149, to increase.
She said she had asked the police whether they needed more powers.
A ban on known hooligans at marches was one option, she said, and she would review police powers to remove scarves covering protesters' faces.
Iraultzaile Ezkerreko
28th March 2011, 17:29
At least you guys can have stick for your placards. We're not even allowed to have drumsticks...fucking police states.
piet11111
28th March 2011, 17:31
Normally i consider black block actions counter productive but who could seriously blame them for starting a riot big enough to screw up the wedding.
Rooster
28th March 2011, 17:45
For comrades in Scotland, a certain socialist group are organising a bus trip down south to protest at the wedding. I hope someone brings along a guillotine.
Rafiq
28th March 2011, 20:09
Death to the crown! :D
bricolage
28th March 2011, 20:37
this is actually something to raise alarm about.
the state is now openly targeting political opposition in its own country.
since when is this new?
RedScare
28th March 2011, 21:03
Terrorism is rather counter productive and morally dubious. Go, crash the royal wedding with the protests and such, but for fuck's sake don't go blowing things up.
Bardo
28th March 2011, 21:07
Wow. Leave it to the anarchists to make the royal wedding interesting.
Rusty Shackleford
28th March 2011, 21:28
since when is this new?
Red and Black baiting isnt something we yanks hear much about from the UK.
that being said, i came up with a slogan after hearing about the attack on charles and camillas car last year:
"Cut the Monarchy, not Education!"
Robocommie
28th March 2011, 21:29
You can stick fifty lines of coppers between the royals and the black blocers. You can't really try the same trick against a bomb. ;)
Jesus Copbait, take it easy!
Tim Finnegan
28th March 2011, 21:32
Terrorism is rather counter productive and morally dubious. Go, crash the royal wedding with the protests and such, but for fuck's sake don't go blowing things up.
Jesus Copbait, take it easy!
Hyperbole, my yankee friends, ironic hyperbole. ;)
Ocean Seal
28th March 2011, 21:39
Oh goodness gracious not the royal wedding that cost 80 million pounds. Look at those dirty anarchists waste such good tax payer money. You mean that the princess could actually look upon her citizens who aren't throwing her flowers? Damn the way that they word it makes the monarchs sound like such cowards, and the government like absolute alarmists. Look people might crash the wedding? That's their biggest concern. I mean honestly when you hear anarchists you think that they government might claim that they would bomb the place or something right?
News to all monarchs you only belong in two places. In our history books and in children's fairy tales.
Enough, any fiscally smart person will tell you that when they cut welfare the next time, they should cut the millions in welfare monies that they send you.
Tim Finnegan
28th March 2011, 21:43
Oh goodness gracious not the royal wedding that cost 80 million pounds. Look at those dirty anarchists waste such good tax payer money. You mean that the princess could actually look upon her citizens who aren't throwing her flowers?
"Subjects", not "citizens". "Citizens" would imply that he have some sort of sovereignty independent of Her Majesty.
bricolage
28th March 2011, 21:44
Red and Black baiting isnt something we yanks hear much about from the UK.
before any major demonstration or what not both the press and police will warn constantly of 'anarchists'. after any argy bargy they will both say the same, it never really materialises into much and as far as I know anarchist organisations have never been targetted hence the issue is with 'extremism' (ie. anyone that might smash a window or cause similar trouble), something that in certain cases becomes synonymous with 'anarchist'. so after saturday anarchists are targetted because anarchist becomes a byword for anyone involved in social disobedience not people who dig bakunin. the actual repression is never as intense as it is against other 'extremists' such as muslims, football hooligans or even the far right. obviously it is something to watch out for and be concerned about (as it is everywhere) but I think it's often overhyped.
Robocommie
28th March 2011, 21:48
Hyperbole, my yankee friends, ironic hyperbole. ;)
I'm just saying, cops don't really have a sense of humor when it comes to Reds and Blacks.
Dimmu
28th March 2011, 21:49
the actual repression is never as intense as it is against other 'extremists' such as muslims, football hooligans or even the far right. obviously it is something to watch out for and be concerned about (as it is everywhere) but I think it's often overhyped.
Thats because most anarchist groups are quite decentralized unlike the neo-nazis or muslims.
Vladimir Innit Lenin
28th March 2011, 21:52
When you say "peaceful disruption" you include injuring police, destroying property, and, ideally, beheading the royal couple, right?
Police question much?
I don't really think it'd be deserved to injure any member of the royal family. Their position is a product of a ridiculous feudal throwback and whilst they deserve to be stripped of all position, power, privilege and title, I don't really see that violence against the person of the Royals is just or really advantageous for our movement.
Red Future
28th March 2011, 21:54
Got a random invite to Prince Williams stag do on Facebook ..Im thinking of going as Robespierre
bricolage
28th March 2011, 22:20
Thats because most anarchist groups are quite decentralized unlike the neo-nazis or muslims.
even if that is true, so? the state can just as easily target a local branch of an organisation as it can a central committee.
RATM-Eubie
28th March 2011, 22:34
I can support this 100% any day. :)
Game Girl
28th March 2011, 22:39
I fully support a demonstration. But please don't allow anyone from both sides to be harmed. We can do this non-violently.
Stranger Than Paradise
29th March 2011, 01:47
as far as I know anarchist organisations have never been targetted
In the run up to the dec 12 protest the standard ran an article which claimed WAG and the wombles were planning "violence" or "disorder". In fact after Millbank the Telegraph ran an article claiming Solfed was involved in orchestrating the occupation.
bricolage
29th March 2011, 07:49
In the run up to the dec 12 protest the standard ran an article which claimed WAG and the wombles were planning "violence" or "disorder". In fact after Millbank the Telegraph ran an article claiming Solfed was involved in orchestrating the occupation.
by targetted I meant police raids, shutting down websites, banning marches and so forth, not just press scaremongering. I mean there was that daily mail article claiming the ICC were behind the student demonstrations wasn't there! I remember that standard article being funny because the wombles don't even exist anymore, there was also that sunday telegraph story that blamed someone to do with autonomous students network, based on nothing except posts they'd found on facebook and libcom. journalism is ridiculous.
Le Socialiste
29th March 2011, 08:16
At least you guys can have stick for your placards. We're not even allowed to have drumsticks...fucking police states.
You're kidding...really? Then again, I'm sure state police wouldn't want this to deal with:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5YDZ5PwokfE&feature=related
Found this video because of another poster, pretty intense stuff...
Fietsketting
29th March 2011, 16:33
News to all monarchs: you only belong in two places. In our history books and in children's fairy tales.
Now that could make a nice banner for the first of May
Comrade Wolfie's Very Nearly Banned Adventures
30th March 2011, 01:44
I only want to deliver my wedding gift.
http://209.85.12.232/13727/168/emo/120px-Nonawesome.png
Le Socialiste
30th March 2011, 03:13
We can do this non-violently.
With all due respect, non-violence doesn't help anyone when the state is all too willing to beat and fire on its citizenry. I'm not proposing that anybody be killed (after all, the monarchy doesn't carry as much political weight as it used to); however, I recognize the need to send a message - and a forceful one at that. Peaceful dissent has its place, and this may very well be it. But I'm not opposed to the idea of targetting the royal wedding as a means of getting a message across.
I understand that some people consider pacifism to be the ultimate expression of dissent, but in this day and age we must seriously consider the fact that such actions (if we insist on its continued use) must be extended to include social/class militancy. Non-violence won't go far in a world where governments consistently engage in acts of suppression, violence, and terrorism.
...But I'm deviating from the actual topic at hand, so never mind my ranting. :)
Vladimir Innit Lenin
30th March 2011, 11:57
With all due respect, non-violence doesn't help anyone when the state is all too willing to beat and fire on its citizenry. I'm not proposing that anybody be killed (after all, the monarchy doesn't carry as much political weight as it used to); however, I recognize the need to send a message - and a forceful one at that. Peaceful dissent has its place, and this may very well be it. But I'm not opposed to the idea of targetting the royal wedding as a means of getting a message across.
I understand that some people consider pacifism to be the ultimate expression of dissent, but in this day and age we must seriously consider the fact that such actions (if we insist on its continued use) must be extended to include social/class militancy. Non-violence won't go far in a world where governments consistently engage in acts of suppression, violence, and terrorism.
...But I'm deviating from the actual topic at hand, so never mind my ranting. :)
That is all fine, as long as we differentiate violence against the person from violence against property. The former would be seriously, seriously counter-productive, and really quite unjust. It would be a complete own goal.
I'm by no means a pacifist, but to me, teh current level of class consciousness amongst the workign class in Britain requires sit-ins and occupations rather than assaulting cops and Royals.
Property Is Robbery
30th March 2011, 19:57
So did anything happen?
Rooster
30th March 2011, 20:27
So did anything happen?
The wedding is to take place on the 29th of April.
IndependentCitizen
31st March 2011, 00:42
You can stick fifty lines of coppers between the royals and the black blocers. You can't really try the same trick against a bomb. ;)
BUT! If you were to have a bomb between the coppers who are stopping the Anarchists from attacking the Royals, then you got a double whammer.
Disclaimer for the Police, public servants of Britain: I am not enticing, or suggesting Anarchists will be hurt in this. And, ugh to avoid terrorism charges, the royal wankers
No_Leaders
31st March 2011, 01:12
I hope they disrupt the wedding morep ower to them! :) i'm listening to crass while reading this and drinking ab it so sorry for typos. Everything i've been hearing about london really gives me hope. we need some stuff like this here in the states. Luckily people are rallyng against the anti union bills that fascist right wing idiots are trying to impose, and hopefully that is just the tip of the iceberg of more to come from working class comrades. :)
Amphictyonis
31st March 2011, 01:17
Now a bunch of police (in this case bobbies?) will dress up in black and disrupt the wedding in order to gain support from average 'god save the queen' type patriotic British working class.
If anything Anarchists should know the royal family is just a figurehead for an old pastime. Capitalists replaced the monarchy centuries ago.
Dimmu
1st April 2011, 17:48
Look at how "popular" anarchists became after the London protest. Direct action works.
But read this ridiculous article.
London, England (CNN) -- "God Save the Queen ... the fascist regime," sang The Sex Pistols to mark Queen Elizabeth's Silver Jubilee in 1977. Now, Britain's anarchists are targeting the royals again.
According to one leading anarchist protester, plans are being drawn up for a demonstration using "shock and awe" tactics to disrupt Prince William's marriage to Kate Middleton on April 29.
Charlie Veitch, a former City banker who was made redundant during the financial crisis, heads a group of colorful protesters called the "Love Police Academy." He says that anarchists will put on a "disruption spectacular."
"As an anarchist, philosophical and political anarchist, I cannot support the royal family, I cannot support this government's actions," he said.
Veitch says Love Police Academy is committed to non-violent protest against the austerity cuts, the status quo and the establishment. He was one of those involved in last year's violent student protests against the UK government's plan to triple tuition fees for university students and advocates extreme tactics.
"I give full support to black bloc tactics that we saw at the weekend," he added, referring to the black-clad, hooded hardcore of protesters who have marred legitimate anti-austerity rallies (http://edition.cnn.com/2011/WORLD/europe/03/26/uk.london.demonstration/index.html) in London in recent weeks. Police charged 149 people following the violence, during which paint, fireworks and flares were thrown at buildings and windows smashed.
Veitch is open about his privileged "right wing, traditional" family background. Indeed, he was the epitome of the British establishment until he was made redundant during the downturn.
He is also candid about the anarchists' plans for April 29, the day of the royal wedding.
He says they are putting together a "shock and awe" campaign. "It will involve a lot of fireworks, it will involve a lot of people dressed in black, it will involve a lot of very, very loud music to try and hack all the mainstream media broadcasts of that day."
Security expert Roy Ramm says the royal wedding presents an incredibly tough challenge for police.
"The police have got a job to get the public in close-up to the wedding, but they have to keep the people who want to cause disorder and damage like we have seen here (at recent protests), away from the wedding. It could be immensely disruptive," he said.
Anarchist websites are already humming with references to the wedding.
"There are plans, which are being passed around online in encrypted forums and through encrypted emails -- which the government cannot hack -- to disrupt the procession route as well," said Veitch.
Veitch predicts tens of thousands of people will try to protest on the day of the wedding, but admits that "maybe one or two thousand" will be directly involved with disrupting the event.
"I'd say it will be a big mass rally. There will be of course people who are dressed all in black, who will be involved in more direct action. Of course, they will remain nameless," he said.
Veitch denies that direct action to interfere with the wedding could be seen as a form of terrorism. "I don't see disrupting an illegitimate wedding between two very posh people who don't represent the average man on the street as terrorism," he said.
Whether or not the threats of Veitch and others like him are based on real plans, the police are taking the potential for disruption seriously.
Knowing where to deploy riot police is tough -- the protesters could strike at almost any location. Police are considering using powers which give them the right to stop and search anyone during a designated time in a specific area, although they are not allowed to detain people unless there is evidence of wrongdoing.
London's Metropolitan Police Commander Bob Broadhurst says his officers face a difficult balancing act. They need to allow legitimate protest, without it getting out of hand. "There is a lot of chatter out there and no real intelligence, but we must bear in mind that people have a right to protest," he said.
Protesters have already targeted the royal family. In December, they threw paint (http://edition.cnn.com/2010/WORLD/europe/12/12/uk.protests.police/index.html) at a Rolls-Royce carrying Prince Charles and his wife, Camilla, Duchess of Cornwall and cracked a window.
But on the wedding day, anarchists will have to blend in with the crowds and these staunch royalists could be the best defense police have, according to former Metropolitan Police Assistant Commissioner Andy Hayman.
"It won't be easy for the anarchists to infiltrate, the great majority would stop that happening. On the other hand, if there was a pot of paint thrown at any of the royal VIPs, that would be a worldwide embarrassment," he said.http://edition.cnn.com/2011/WORLD/europe/04/01/uk.royal.wedding.anarchists/index.html?hpt=C2
piet11111
2nd April 2011, 12:38
Sounds like Veitch wants to make sure there are enough cops on the streets :rolleyes:
ZeroNowhere
2nd April 2011, 12:44
Fair enough. Nothing wrong with getting some cheap entertainment at the royals' expense. They don't seem too concerned about expense, after all.
Tim Finnegan
3rd April 2011, 02:11
If anything Anarchists should know the royal family is just a figurehead for an old pastime. Capitalists replaced the monarchy centuries ago.
True, but that doesn't invalidate contemporary anti-monarchism provided it forms part a comprehensive anti-capitalist critique. Bourgeois republicans are no use to anyone- their dissent amounts to a disagreement over the exact variety of ornamental headgear the state should perch upon its invariably capitalistic crown- but there's value in attacking the aristocratic culture of the British ruling class as part of the ideological substance of contemporary British capitalism.
Agent Ducky
3rd April 2011, 02:18
Now a bunch of police (in this case bobbies?) will dress up in black and disrupt the wedding in order to gain support from average 'god save the queen' type patriotic British working class.
If anything Anarchists should know the royal family is just a figurehead for an old pastime. Capitalists replaced the monarchy centuries ago.
They know that. But why is the monarchy still here? Why do they get huge tax-money subsidized weddings? They did nothing to deserve it. There is no practical reason to keep the monarchy. This is what the anarchists are against...
Barry
3rd April 2011, 02:24
I will be watching the wedding with interest might show a trend in how Elizibeth will spend Irish taxpayer money when she visits in May.
Would be fune to crash the wedding, you also forget that this is the stuff of dreams a petit beurgeoise becoming royalty (they must need some new non inbred blood).
Still waiting on my invitation though
Tim Finnegan
3rd April 2011, 02:50
There is no practical reason to keep the monarchy.
From a proletarian perspective, perhaps. The bourgeoisie see things quite differently, as Richard Seymour explains (http://leninology.blogspot.com/2010/11/note-on-wedding.html).
StalinFanboy
3rd April 2011, 02:55
I'm just saying, cops don't really have a sense of humor when it comes to Reds and Blacks.
especially the blacks
~Spectre
3rd April 2011, 03:24
Since it's partly their tax money, the anarchists should at least be allowed to stay for the dinner and a few dances.
GallowsBird
4th April 2011, 04:42
All the monarchy should be put against the wall. The UK is decadent and the people have been made week so the monarchy are still in power.
It sickens me to see so many people buying little British flags to wave around. I may burn one as no one will come with me to actually do something about the monarchy. No one seems to want to fight them anymore. Its like the revolutionaries are all dead... :(
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