Choibalsan

[mosfeld]

What's the appeal about him? Why do people like him? (I admittedly don't know much about him...)

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/9c/Horloogiyn_Choybalsan.jpg/200px-Horloogiyn_Choybalsan.jpg
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[PhoenixAsh]

He was a priest of some sort. Later he became Stalin 2.0 and was responsible for purges.

So...no...don't like him much...but don't know much about him either.

[Sixiang]

I had absolutely no idea that Mongolia was once called the Mongolian People's Republic and that it was a socialist republic. I don't really know much of anything about Mongolia anyways. I guess you really do learn something new every day.

[daleckian]

He was a priest of some sort. Later he became Stalin 2.0 and was responsible for purges.

You mean modernizing Mongolia after years of backwards stagnation under the Qing Dynasty? You mean creating stability in a region that was already rife with anti-communist purges from the Qing colonists?

Choybalsan was a military and anti-imperialist hero. period. He's done more to further the aim of socialism in one lifetime than you will in 1000.

He was a Lamaist, much like Stalin was a priest...but that work woke him up to his real mission to help the poor. If he didn't exist, along with Sukhbaatar, Mongolia would cease to be an independent nation anywhere. It'd be like Inner Mongolia is today, completely removed of it's original Mongolian character and heritage, with no remaining independent Mongol nation anywhere.

As far as the purges go, 30,000 people were "purged". hardly a large number, especially compared to the anti-communist, anti-socialist Qing dynasty purges. regardless, most of those who were purged were bureaucrats and royalists from the leftover monarchy.


So...no...don't like him much...but don't know much about him either.

Idiot, how can you not like someone you know nothing about?

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P.S: look at my avatar.

[Ismail]

The Mongolian People's Republic and the Tuvan People's Republic (when it existed) were basically only a step away from being constituent republics of the USSR. Even Enver Hoxha had little to say about his 1956 visit to Mongolia: "Those 3 or 4 days of our visit to Mongolia passed almost unnoticed. We travelled for hours on end to reach some inhabited centre and everywhere the landscape was the same: vast, bare, monotonous, boring. Tsedenbal, who bounced around us as mobile as a rubber ball, harped on the sole theme—livestock farming. So many million sheep, so many mares, so many horses, so many camels, this was the only wealth, the only branch on which this socialist country supported itself. We drank mare’s milk, wished one another successes and parted." Mongolia pretty much had zero relations with any other country besides the USSR throughout the existence of the latter.

As for Choibalsan, Molotov recalled him in the 1970's like so: "I remember Choibalsan. He had little culture but was loyal to the USSR." That's about it. Choibalsan, functionally, was not much more influential than whoever the Chairman of the Supreme Soviet of the Turkmen SSR was at the time. Stalin and Choibalsan did seem to genuinely like one-another, though. Apparently the USSR contemplated the annexation of Mongolia in the 1944-1946 period à la Tuva.

[Omsk]

The Mongolian People's Republic and the Tuvan People's Republic (when it existed) were basically only a step away from being constituent republics of the USSR. Even Enver Hoxha had little to say about his 1956 visit to Mongolia: "Those 3 or 4 days of our visit to Mongolia passed almost unnoticed. We travelled for hours on end to reach some inhabited centre and everywhere the landscape was the same: vast, bare, monotonous, boring. Tsedenbal, who bounced around us as mobile as a rubber ball, harped on the sole theme—livestock farming. So many million sheep, so many mares, so many horses, so many camels, this was the only wealth, the only branch on which this socialist country supported itself. We drank mare’s milk, wished one another successes and parted." Mongolia pretty much had zero relations with any other country besides the USSR throughout the existence of the latter.
Life according to Hoxa.:lol: (i don't mean anything negative,its just that you find Hoxas view on everything.:) )

As for Choibalsan,well,he was a Mongolian leader and a loyal ally to the CCCP.
He was a Stalinist,and he was loyal to him,which resulted in him taking power.
But the a lot of people in Mongolia see him as a hero of the people,and generally remember him in a good light.While there are some who consider him to be one of Stalins puppets.
Stalin made deals with Choibalsan on arangements of wool-shipping,for the Soviet Red Army (they needed wool and materials for warmer uniforms)
They had a lot of economic deals.Not to mention that during his rule considerable improvements in the country's infrastructure, roads and communication lines were made with Soviet assistance

[hardlinecommunist]

What's the appeal about him? Why do people like him? (I admittedly don't know much about him...)

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/9c/Horloogiyn_Choybalsan.jpg/200px-Horloogiyn_Choybalsan.jpg
antifa skinhead
Choibalsan was a great Marxist Leninist Revolutionary

[Ismail]

Proof?

I mean seriously speaking he was a revolutionary against feudalism but don't be cliché.